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I think the ACC could salvage itself, but it needs to be proactive. And things have to bounce their way. Neither of which will likely happen.

Assuming it loses 5 schools and ND goes as well, you’ve still got stellar hoops and several fb schools. The goal isn’t to beat SEC or Big, you just have to beat Big 12 or be close to keep P4 status.

Ultimately, comes down to when the P2 stop grabbing schools. Is that 20, 22, or 24.

20 helps Acc since they have more value and would likely be the next target.

In that case you still have Nc state, Pitt, VA tech, and Louisville as core fb. Wake is wake. If ACC could woo Kansas, WVU and Cincy plus UConn, that is a nice win. Maybe add USF and Memphis and it’s a decent fb league maybe enough to keep P4. Basketball would be strong.

Syracuse and BC need to step up on both fb and bb.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
I am curious if people know more about FSU's discussion with private equity about a college media network. This is an obvious threat to the media companies like ESPN and FOX.

How can UConn get involved with this? Our brand is worth much more than we are being paid right now.

Also, how can we leverage streaming platforms like Apple to get more revenue for football?

We have to think of UConn like we think of running a business going forward.
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The partnership with JP Morgan might lead to a new conference. I heard that Louisville is the 8th team.

People have speculated that the private equity partners could solicit foreign interest much like what Saudi partners did with the golf league.

Sports is big money. The formation of a new conference could lead to even bigger per team payout than the SEC or B1G. It's all very interesting and I think there will end up being more than 8 teams that will agree to this if they do indeed obtain enough private funding.

We are in a new Era.
 
Hopefully it's at least 22. In that case something like this happens (schools can be swapped between the conferences and it doesn't change the point)

B1G (18): UNC, UVA, ND, Miami
SEC (16): FSU, Clemson, NCST, GT, VT, Louisville

That leaves... ACC: BC, Duke, Pitt, Cuse, WF

If the XII can hold onto P3 and they also go to 22 then they need 6 more members. UConn has to hold off Memphis, SMU, SDSU, Tulane, USF, etc to be that number 6. I would hope we are currently ahead of all of these G5 teams and at least BC, Cuse, and WF at this point from the ACC leftovers.

If the number is 20, things get a lot tougher for UConn. We're probably currently the "last team in" in that scenario.
 
B1GEast said:
The partnership with JP Morgan might lead to a new conference. I heard that Louisville is the 8th team.

People have speculated that the private equity partners could solicit foreign interest much like what Saudi partners did with the golf league.

Sports is big money. The formation of a new conference could lead to even bigger per team payout than the SEC or B1G. It's all very interesting and I think there will end up being more than 8 teams that will agree to this if they do indeed obtain enough private funding.

We are in a new Era.
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I think it will ultimately be a collection of big brand schools while getting rid of all the tag alongs like Wake, Vandy etc that don't really offer much value. In the current environment, there is no way in hell a school like Alabama will take the same payment as Vandy forever.

FSU's equity idea might indeed open up an entirely new chapter for college sports.

For UConn, we just need to keep building the brand for the media.
 
uconnyankee said:
According to second article, ACC doesn’t exist
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Good luck with that. The ACC is in a better position than the Big XII is. Too many people overreacting to FSU's noise, when FSU has no realistic options. If it wants to pay $400m to leave, fine. The rest of them aren't passing up that free money. Meanwhile, where is it going?
SEC doesn't want them. B1G doesn't want them and the Big XII pays less than the ACC.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
Good luck with that. The ACC is in a better position than the Big XII is. Too many people overreacting to FSU's noise, when FSU has no realistic options. If it wants to pay $400m to leave, fine. The rest of them aren't passing up that free money. Meanwhile, where is it going?
SEC doesn't want them. B1G doesn't want them and the Big XII pays less than the ACC.
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We’ll see. I don’t think Big and Sec are going to wait 13 years
 
WestCoastHusky said:
I think it will ultimately be a collection of big brand schools while getting rid of all the tag alongs like Wake, Vandy etc that don't really offer much value. In the current environment, there is no way in hell a school like Alabama will take the same payment as Vandy forever.

FSU's equity idea might indeed open up an entirely new chapter for college sports.

For UConn, we just need to keep building the brand for the media.
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Yormark was correct about trying to upgrade the basketball brand of the 12.

If these ACC teams break off and create a new conference, maybe they'll see UConn as a potential addition to Duke, UNC and Virginia.

Who really knows, but you're correct about continuing to build the brand.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
Can someone clarify again if 8 ACC schools left and vote to dissolve the ACC, will there still be a GOR since the ACC is the entity holding the GOR rights?

The reason for this is FSU board member was on record stating that lawyers examined the GOR over and over, and he stated there are options for FSU. He also stated FSU will make decisions not being held back by the GOR.
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I have not seen the "8 schools can dissolve the ACC" linked to an actual document, just referenced by message board and twitter posters. Not looking very hard for it though.
 
B1GEast said:
The partnership with JP Morgan might lead to a new conference. I heard that Louisville is the 8th team.

People have speculated that the private equity partners could solicit foreign interest much like what Saudi partners did with the golf league.

Sports is big money. The formation of a new conference could lead to even bigger per team payout than the SEC or B1G. It's all very interesting and I think there will end up being more than 8 teams that will agree to this if they do indeed obtain enough private funding.

We are in a new Era.
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I don’t think this new era will work out the way some of the mega programs think it will.
 
B1GEast said:
Yormark was correct about trying to upgrade the basketball brand of the 12.

If these ACC teams break off and create a new conference, maybe they'll see UConn as a potential addition to Duke, UNC and Virginia.

Who really knows, but you're correct about continuing to build the brand.
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I like that his basketball upgrade consists of Arizona and 3 warm bodies.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
What if FSU and a bunch of schools just get together and form a media company along with a steaming platform with private equity funding? Each college could just be a partner in this new entity. Streaming platforms like Apple, Amazon, etc. can be partners as well? They go out and make money, and everyone get paid based on their shares?

The fund raised from private equity will be used for marketing and promotion of this platform.

I can see UConn be part of this.
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Not a chance the big time schools willingly put their games exclusively on streaming.
 
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How much does Uconn need from outside sources to be a self sustaining Athletic Department?
Basketball is clearly in a good spot- but what number provides for everything else?
 
XStorrsion said:
Hopefully it's at least 22. In that case something like this happens (schools can be swapped between the conferences and it doesn't change the point)

B1G (18): UNC, UVA, ND, Miami
SEC (16): FSU, Clemson, NCST, GT, VT, Louisville

That leaves... ACC: BC, Duke, Pitt, Cuse, WF

If the XII can hold onto P3 and they also go to 22 then they need 6 more members. UConn has to hold off Memphis, SMU, SDSU, Tulane, USF, etc to be that number 6. I would hope we are currently ahead of all of these G5 teams and at least BC, Cuse, and WF at this point from the ACC leftovers.

If the number is 20, things get a lot tougher for UConn. We're probably currently the "last team in" in that scenario.
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A scenario is UVA and UNC to B1G; Clemson and FSU to SEC. The rest don’t move as they are dilutive.
 
B1GEast said:
The partnership with JP Morgan might lead to a new conference. I heard that Louisville is the 8th team.

People have speculated that the private equity partners could solicit foreign interest much like what Saudi partners did with the golf league.

Sports is big money. The formation of a new conference could lead to even bigger per team payout than the SEC or B1G. It's all very interesting and I think there will end up being more than 8 teams that will agree to this if they do indeed obtain enough private funding.

We are in a new Era.
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If they sell their programs to the Saudis or private equity then the fans should riot.
 
Zissou said:
A scenario is UVA and UNC to B1G; Clemson and FSU to SEC. The rest don’t move as they are dilutive.
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Only way UNC ends up in the B1G is if the SEC is willing to NCSU as a replacement, assuming they won't take both
 
ramses 2.0 said:
Only way UNC ends up in the B1G is if that's the only way NCSU lands a P2 conference
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And UNC leadership wants to go to the B10. UNC won't let NC State take a spot it wants.
 
TRest said:
I like that his basketball upgrade consists of Arizona and 3 warm bodies.
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I totally agree with you. ASU had no business being in that equation. Yormark crapped his pants under the presidents pressure
 
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Yormark pulled at the strings of the Pac and y'all think it was coincidental he ended up with 4 Pac schools?
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I don’t think this new era will work out the way some of the mega programs think it will.
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It's not supposed to work in the long term. It's there to help FSU obtain its goal of breaking free from the terrible deal they signed.

Once they are free, as far as they are concerned they are free to do as they please and the B1G or SEC will always have a landslide spot for them. Everyone else is a pawn.
 
businesslawyer said:
Of course it won't. If LSU is with superpowers going 3-9 every year, how long will they stay interested? Every time you eliminate dreck, there is a new bottom and someone else who wasn't dreck now is.
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The same thing will happen to sports that happened with TV original programming. Just like the days of a megahit TV show like Friends are gone forever, the days of a handful of college athletics programs dominating are also over.
 
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JeepCSC said:
Again, they'd be desirable to the ACC. At least Texas and Kansas. There was at least a vague notion of adding UT a decade ago, but that Longhorn Network was a sticking point as it was elsewhere.
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Let me restate that then they are not desirable by anyone who is paying a higher conference broadcast rates distribution than they are already receiving.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
What if FSU and a bunch of schools just get together and form a media company along with a steaming platform with private equity funding? Each college could just be a partner in this new entity. Streaming platforms like Apple, Amazon, etc. can be partners as well? They go out and make money, and everyone get paid based on their shares?

The fund raised from private equity will be used for marketing and promotion of this platform.

I can see UConn be part of this.
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So, FSU blocked us from the ACC, but they would embrace us as a partner in this new venture?
 
B1GEast said:
It's not supposed to work in the long term. It's there to help FSU obtain its goal of breaking free from the terrible deal they signed.

Once they are free, as far as they are concerned they are free to do as they please and the B1G or SEC will always have a landslide spot for them. Everyone else is a pawn.
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If you are right, and the P2 emerge dominant (which they won’t), the NBA and NFL will crush them. We are nowhere near the end game, and people need to stop overreacting to each event.
 
CL82 said:
Let me restate that then they are not desirable by anyone who is paying a higher conference broadcast rates distribution than they are already receiving.
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Well the ACC would be paying more in a couple years. And if you think a big chunk of the Big XII value comes from Texas and Kansas, you'd likely be able to sell them on the idea they'd make more cutting out Kansas State and BYU and Central Florida. I mean the most value would come from cherry-picking the two leagues. Short of that, telling Texas money they don't have to carry the entire load would probably be the next best option.
 
CL82 said:
So, FSU blocked us from the ACC, but they would embrace us as a partners in this new venture?
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FSU is a school that doesn't give a lick about anyone other than itself. They are run by a bunch of ruthless cutthroats that don't give a lick about their partners.

That being said, if we can help them get extra $1, I think we have a chance to be part of it. They will need content other than football, and we bring plenty of that.
 
Zissou said:
A scenario is UVA and UNC to B1G; Clemson and FSU to SEC. The rest don’t move as they are dilutive.
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If Miami and ND walked into the B1G office today ready to jump ship together, B1G isn't turning them away. Would seem that the final remaining B1G priorities would be:

1) ND
2) UNC
3) any/all combo of UVA, Miami, Kansas

At that point you can lock the door to the B1G forever.
 
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