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State lands the #1 player in NC and first commit of 2025. Shooting Guard Adelaide Jernigan.


She goes to school about 20 minutes away from me. This is the first time Ive ever heard of her. I do know that school is a basketball powerhouse.... Its the most consistently good program in NC.
 
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She goes to school about 20 minutes away from me. This is the first time Ive ever heard of her. I do know that school is a basketball powerhouse.... Its the most consistently good program in NC.
Small 1-A school but have been a powerhouse! 11 State championships in the last 18 years, the Lady Villains, such a cool nickname.

Jernigan ranks 2nd in school history in points in a season with 584, 2nd in 3 pointers made in a season with 79. We'll see how her game translates to the ACC, but hopefully she can be a floor spacer, a good defender and a dead eye shooter for the Pack in years to come.
 
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I'm going to do a deep dive when I get home from work. But I saw on Twitter that Coach Ivey kinda hype up the miles Hidalgo backcourt. I'm not gonna lie I'm pretty worried about them as a UConn fan lol. Also hoping to hear about how toby fournier is doing.
 

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Some will roll their eyes when I say this, but the ACC team that I've been most impressed by in the offseason is Virginia Tech. Megan Thee Duffy was able to secure three really good assistants (all three starred in the ACC as players while two of them have ACC head coaching experience) and convinced "the leftovers" to not only stick around but help shape the culture of the program. Then, she was able to cobble together a decent recruiting class at the last minute. What could have been a disaster looks more like a competent bubble-esque squad. If they finish Top 6, then she should be ACC COY in a landslide.
 
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Apparently NC State transfer Caitlyn Weimar is injured and set to miss substantial time. Really hurts the Pack. Going into the offseason Center was the biggest question mark - the Pack returns sophomore Mallory Collier who played limited minutes last season as a freshman, Liz Williamson a redshirt senior who played slightly more but is strictly a defensive minded depth piece, and they bring in a freshman out of Illinois named Lorena Awou. Weimar was the plug and play starting senior who is the Patriot League MVP and absolutely filled the biggest hole on the team.

Big loss for the Pack. Fascinated to see how they construct the rotations without her.
 
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Some will roll their eyes when I say this, but the ACC team that I've been most impressed by in the offseason is Virginia Tech. Megan Thee Duffy was able to secure three really good assistants (all three starred in the ACC as players while two of them have ACC head coaching experience) and convinced "the leftovers" to not only stick around but help shape the culture of the program. Then, she was able to cobble together a decent recruiting class at the last minute. What could have been a disaster looks more like a competent bubble-esque squad. If they finish Top 6, then she should be ACC COY in a landslide.
Coach Duffy is a 2006 Notre Dame graduate so when she's not playing her alma mater you'll see a lot of ND fans root for her and her team. She's done very well at each coaching stop and I'm sure she'll continue.

With 6 of her roster of 11 returning, Carys Baker, Matilda Ekh, Samyha Suffren, Carleigh Wenzel, Rose Micheaux, four freshmen, and a junior from Utah, Lani White, she will have her work cut out for her replacing the points from graduates and transfers. I've always thought player development was her strength this roster gives her the chance.

 

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With 6 of her roster of 11 returning, Carys Baker, Matilda Ekh, Samyha Suffren, Carleigh Wenzel, Rose Micheaux, four freshmen, and a junior from Utah, Lani White, she will have her work cut out for her replacing the points from graduates and transfers. I've always thought player development was her strength this roster gives her the chance.

I'm aware of the roster construction and, as someone who followed the Big Ten the last handful of seasons (which would include watching Minnesota and Michigan State games), I'm aware of what Rose Micheaux and Matilda Ekh can bring. Both are more than capable of carrying the bulk of the scoring load and Micheaux can rebound. The only issue that I could envision Micheaux having is foul trouble (it was an issue for her at Minnesota), but I'm having a hard time identifying enough dominant post players in the ACC who could exploit that potential weakness.

The coaching staff expects to see a major jump from Carleigh Wenzel (who showed flashes of an all-around game last year) and Carys Baker (who is a capable shooter but falls in love with the 3-pointer to her detriment). Megan also mentioned Lani White as someone who can make the big leap--she and Wenzel are built like the type of guards/wings who should fare well in the ACC.

There are valid concerns, however. Someone will have to play PG (and it's going to be someone really young--Wenzel, Mackie Nelson, or Samyha Suffren), so that's going to need to be addressed sooner rather than later. Out of the four freshmen, two of them will need to be ready to contribute right away. And with a 11-player roster, depth could be an issue.

That said, the ACC is filled with teams who have a lot of question marks--to include teams at the top. There are no South Carolinas, UConns, Southern Cals, or UCLAs in this conference. I'm not seeing how teams like Virginia, Clemson, Stanford, and Miami wouldn't be in the same boat as VT--with a lot of questions to be answered. The games are played on the court for a reason.
 
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Some will roll their eyes when I say this, but the ACC team that I've been most impressed by in the offseason is Virginia Tech. Megan Thee Duffy was able to secure three really good assistants (all three starred in the ACC as players while two of them have ACC head coaching experience) and convinced "the leftovers" to not only stick around but help shape the culture of the program. Then, she was able to cobble together a decent recruiting class at the last minute. What could have been a disaster looks more like a competent bubble-esque squad. If they finish Top 6, then she should be ACC COY in a landslide.
Why would anyone roll their eyes because you are impressed with Virginia Tech's moves over the offseason? Coach Duffy is a wonderful coach, and she did a wonderful job at Marquette. I think she will do well at Va Tech if players buy in and fans are patient, she is going to continue to do well. It all comes down to effort, attitude, and players buying into what Coach Duffy's vision for the program is all about.
 
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Thanks for sharing this clip with us. That DHO action is hard to stop once players get use to it and knocking down shots. So many options off that 3-man action. Great to see the twins back on the court together again. Hannah and Haley can straight up hoop. I can see Miami being pretty competitive.
 

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Why would anyone roll their eyes because you are impressed with Virginia Tech's moves over the offseason? Coach Duffy is a wonderful coach, and she did a wonderful job at Marquette. I think she will do well at Va Tech if players buy in and fans are patient, she is going to continue to do well. It all comes down to effort, attitude, and players buying into what Coach Duffy's vision for the program is all about.
I think she'll do well, too. I also think that Notre Dame fans believe she'll do well in the long run, so I'm not referring to them. The people I'm referring to are the ones that got their undergarments in a bunch when I referred to Liz Kitley as "generational" by ACC standards.
 

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So Liatu King, who made 1st Team All-ACC last season playing for Pitt, has taken a step backwards and didn't make First Team now that she transferred to the Irish? :rolleyes:;) I know, I know: Whomever voted for this couldn't see putting yet another Irish on a 10-person team.
However, King was double snubbed because she couldn't be an ACC Newcomer because she, of course, played in the ACC last year for the Panthers.

So, Liatu may have a chip on her shoulder (as if she needed any motivation).

Glad to see Citron on this list. She's so unassuming that she often flies under the radar, yet I think she might be the key to Miles and Hidalgo working whatever kinks out they might have sharing lead-guard and overall backcourt duties. Why? Citron has been wing-man for both Miles (two years worth) and Hidalgo (last season) and is the ultimate get-along-with player.
 
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So Liatu King, who made 1st Team All-ACC last season playing for Pitt, has taken a step backwards and didn't make First Team now that she transferred to the Irish? :rolleyes:;) I know, I know: Whomever voted for this couldn't see putting yet another Irish on a 10-person team.
However, King was double snubbed because she couldn't be an ACC Newcomer because she, of course, played in the ACC last year for the Panthers.

So, Liatu may have a chip on her shoulder (as if she needed any motivation).

Glad to see Citron on this list. She's so unassuming that she often flies under the radar, yet I think she might be the key to Miles and Hidalgo working whatever kinks out they might have sharing lead-guard and overall backcourt duties. Why? Citron has been wing-man for both Miles (two years worth) and Hidalgo (last season) and is the ultimate get-along-with player.
Fair critique. However it stands to reason that someone’s stats suffer as there is only 1 ball to go around. Whether it’s her or Citron or one of the guards - it’s hard to imagine 4 players will be on the all league team just because these things turn into who has the guady stats. Someone will make it simply because of how much volume and opportunity they get being on a lesser overall team.
 

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Some will roll their eyes when I say this, but the ACC team that I've been most impressed by in the offseason is Virginia Tech. Megan Thee Duffy was able to secure three really good assistants (all three starred in the ACC as players while two of them have ACC head coaching experience) and convinced "the leftovers" to not only stick around but help shape the culture of the program. Then, she was able to cobble together a decent recruiting class at the last minute. What could have been a disaster looks more like a competent bubble-esque squad. If they finish Top 6, then she should be ACC COY in a landslide.

The media doesn't seem impressed with VPI

 

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True, but I will be interested. Duffy flew under my radar, but I just happened to read a piece on her that was very positive.

I just did my annual spreadsheet of coaches and the ACC's 4 new coaches is the most (the Big 12 has no new coaches). Of them, I would expect Kate Paye to carry on the legacy, Duffy to perform well, also Collup at Miami, but not sure what the future holds for Clemson.
 
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Tell me more. I’ve not heard about this likely commitment.
It's just a gut feeling on my part. Her finalists include Louisville, Iowa, Illinois, North Carolina, and Miami. She has made her official visits to all 5 and is close to announcing her decision (probably this weekend). Ranked #59 by espn hg she is a 6'3" forward who plays for the Brazil national team and will be playing her final year of hs at IMG Academy in Florida.
 

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The media doesn't play the games, correct? Or am I missing something?

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Hey, I just report the news.
 
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The media doesn't seem impressed with VPI


The media cracks me up ...how are we 3rd in the ACC with one player on the all conference list? I the past two-three years, we are 2nd only to ND in ACC wins...and have had 1 first team player and 1 second team player out of 40 players.
We must win with fairy dust 'cause we haven't won coach of the year either...lololol
 
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The media cracks me up ...how are we 3rd in the ACC with one player on the all conference list? I the past two-three years, we are 2nd only to ND in ACC wins...and have had 1 first team player and 1 second team player out of 40 players.
We must win with fairy dust 'cause we haven't won coach of the year either...lololol

Over the last 2 years Duke is 3rd behind VT and ND in conference wins. Over the last 3 years they drop considerably falling behind VT, ND, Louisville, NC State, UNC and FSU.

I get that everyone is looking for recognition and perhaps Duke has been snubbed somewhere. 2 years ago Celeste Taylor was all defensive team, defensive player of the year and 1st team all conference and Lawson was 2nd in voting for coach of the year. Last season Duke had Okananwa as the 6th player of the year (State might have argued for Zoe Brooks), Okananwa made the all freshman team, Richardson was 2nd team all conference.

This year they bumped Richardson to pre season 1st team and have Fournier as the top incoming freshman to watch.

The thing is for the preseason selections we are talking about 10 players getting picked and there are now 18 teams. Notre Dame fans think they deserve 4 and got 3 (King was first team last year and not pre season this year, Westbeld was 2nd team last year, not pre season this year). Tonnie Morgan and Kara Dunn were both 2nd team all conference last year for GT and neither preseason selections this year.

The ACC has a lot of talent. Louisville is picked 4th and has no one one the pre season team. I'm having a hard time looking at that list of 10 and seeing who should come off and I can think of 5 or 6 players not on it that have arguments to be on it.
 

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The media cracks me up ...how are we 3rd in the ACC with one player on the all conference list? I the past two-three years, we are 2nd only to ND in ACC wins...and have had 1 first team player and 1 second team player out of 40 players.
We must win with fairy dust 'cause we haven't won coach of the year either...lololol

I know you meant no harm, but you got me riled up again thinking of the 22-23 coach of the year voting. Apparently a lot of the media indulges in crack cocaine every so often. :confused:

Well off to jersey mike's for a heated up #12.... Hopefully that will calm me down. :oops:
 
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