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My take: an ACCN is only good news for UConn if there is something written in the deal that it is contingent on Notre Dame joining as a full-time member. I don't care about "if they ever decide to join, it has to be the ACC" because who knows if/when that would ever happen. I care about something firm, as in "you have an ACCN under the condition that Notre Dame is full time". I've yet to see anything saying that is the case.

Therefore, this ACCN deal is bad for UConn. Really bad. They don't need our markets and brand and they don't need to even their membership when adding Notre Dame. Even worse, their members are re-upping an extended GOR that will surely seal up any cracks or legal grey area, if there are any, that would allow members like FSU/UNC/UVA/GT/Clemson to challenge it and escape to greener pastures. That means no movement and that means no suddenly freed up spots that UConn could backfill.

What the ACCN deal also does is officially cements the B12 as the dying P5 conference, as we shift towards a condensed P4. The B12 has already given up trying to get a network and, in doing so, that will scratch UConn off of the top of the expansion candidate list. Their upcoming expansion move will be a short-term, bubble gum, patch job to get a championship game off the ground. That's it. They'll expand with the 2 closest and most competitive football programs for 2016...perhaps as football only members. Most likely: Houston and BYU.

Finally, the ACCN deal also keeps the B1G appeal away. The GOR means no UNC, UVA, GT or even FSU. Where do they turn now? Texas maybe, but Texas isn't going anywhere because as we've all seen in the course of the past few months, they rule that roost in the panhandle 100%. We also have seen Texas' reluctance to give up the advantage that they hold over their B12 conference mates: their LHN. And to be honest, why would they give that up? Like Notre Dame's NBC deal, it's 100% theirs. They took advantage of poor foresight from the other B12 Presidents/ADs that are still in the conference and profited with their T3 rights. I can't see them wanting to give all of that up until they absolutely have to (read: half of the conference decides to bolt to the PAC or SEC). Aside from Kansas, who is a long-shot at best (only because they are a big hoops brand and are AAU), there are no other B12 members that the B1G would be interested in adding. The $50M/yr buy-in makes it an even more difficult case for Kansas - they can't support that number (very few schools out there can).

So, what does UConn do now? Probably the only thing it can - look into significantly boosting its revenue from TV be re-acquiring its Tier 3 media rights. Let's become the Texas of the G5, on a smaller scale. No G5 school comes anywhere close to the T3 value that UConn delivers. Let's use that to our advantage to continue to try to fund athletics at a P5 level while stuck in the G5. It also wouldn't hurt to become friendly with the bottom rung of the B12 (looking at you - WVU, KSU, ISU, Baylor, TT, OSU, TCU) since a future partnership of the top AAC schools (UConn, Cincinnati, Houston, Memphis, UCF, USF, Navy) and the rest of G5 (BYU, Boise, CSU) to form a "best of the rest" conference would seem like it would be in all of these schools' best interests. But again, there will only be so many seats in that conference and UConn will need to get one or it will have no choice but to drop funding across all sports to CUSA/MAC levels, including hoops.

This is bad, bad, bad, bad, very bad news for UConn. The greatest sack kick of all was saved for last.
More or less, this is correct. The only thing worse would be if Cincy gets a lifeboat to the B12. Santa Ono laughs all the way to UBC (not BCU though it might as well be).
 
Buddy, I think your focus on the LV addition in 2012 doesn't account for the deep resentment that many in the ACC had towards UConn well before that. The lawsuit by Blumenthal in 2003 was more important than anything Warde did or didn't do in 2012. This isn't just my opinion, many insiders at UConn today feel it was a big factor in 2011.

In 2011, we were allegedly "in" along with Syracuse before BC and Miami put up a stink. Whether used as a pretense or not, Blumenthal's ill-advised lawsuit against BC, Miami, the ACC AND MANY INDIVIDUALS ASSOCIATED THEREWITH, helped to poison the chances for UConn then. And let's face it, we've been scrambling ever since. 5 e-f-f-i-n-g years of scrambling...
No, the lawsuit was a factor earlier, but its effects had worn off by that round of CR. Besides, Pitt was like the lead plantiff and they didn't get hurt buy it in the end.
 
No, the lawsuit was a factor earlier, but its effects had worn off by that round of CR. Besides, Pitt was like the lead plantiff and they didn't get hurt buy it in the end.



You would think, but resentment remained. No one likes to get sued in a corporate setting, let alone individually. By naming a host of individuals in the suit, he created many bitter memories for the very people who would determine our fate in 2011. As far as Pitt is concerned, the defendants believed the suit was Blumenthal's and the State of Connecticut's baby.
We were detested for doing it. Even if all of the defendants ended up with "Irish Alzheimer's", they would remember Blumenthal's suit.
 
You would think, but resentment remained. No one likes to get sued in a corporate setting, let alone individually. By naming a host of individuals in the suit, he created many bitter memories for the very people who would determine our fate in 2011. As far as Pitt is concerned, the defendants believed the suit was Blumenthal's and the State of Connecticut's baby.
We were detested for doing it. Even if all of the defendants ended up with "Irish Alzheimer's", they would remember Blumenthal's suit.

Ah, more boneyard conventional wisdom on the opinions and thoughts of college presidents / administrators at other schools, without any actual evidence. Got it.
 
ESPN Launching Digital ACC Offering Next Month, Linear Network In '19

ESPN will launch an ACC digital network next month called ACC Network Plus and a 24-hour linear channel in August '19 dubbed ACC Network, according to sources. Modeled on the SEC’s digital offering that ESPN launched two years ago, ACC Network Plus will be fully owned by ESPN and available to authenticated subscribers through WatchESPN and the ESPN app. ACC games that appear on ESPN3 will move to the digital ACC Network Plus.

At launch, the digital channel will carry at least 600 Olympic-style events per year, with individual schools producing an undetermined number of the events. When the linear channel launches in '19, it will carry at least 400 events, including 40 football and 150 men’s and women’s basketball games each year.
 
Yes...I still think that if the ACC picks up a #15, UConn is in great shape with its basketball, women's basketball...and olympic sports.
 
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The problem is that there is little chance that Notre Dame leaves independent status for football...and there is little chance that the SEC-Big Ten will relent and allow the ACC to run with three divisions/pods.....and, with two divisions, some folks who know are saying the scheduling difficulties have not been solved re the Irish and unequal divisions.

Some noodling about the Irish having five ACC games a year...and counting those as a "division game for purposes of a division championship" for the ACC team playing them....the short division gets an extra Notre Dame game a year....but nobody wants to give up a game with the Irish.
 
ESPN Launching Digital ACC Offering Next Month, Linear Network In '19

ESPN will launch an ACC digital network next month called ACC Network Plus and a 24-hour linear channel in August '19 dubbed ACC Network, according to sources. Modeled on the SEC’s digital offering that ESPN launched two years ago, ACC Network Plus will be fully owned by ESPN and available to authenticated subscribers through WatchESPN and the ESPN app. ACC games that appear on ESPN3 will move to the digital ACC Network Plus.

At launch, the digital channel will carry at least 600 Olympic-style events per year, with individual schools producing an undetermined number of the events. When the linear channel launches in '19, it will carry at least 400 events, including 40 football and 150 men’s and women’s basketball games each year.

ACC Network Plus will be fully owned by ESPN! Wasn't the whole benefit having the ACC own it's own channel? How does this allow the ACC to keep pace with B1G and the SEC?

It doesn't.
 
ACC Network Plus will be fully owned by ESPN! Wasn't the whole benefit having the ACC own it's own channel? How does this allow the ACC to keep pace with B1G and the SEC?

It doesn't.
It's the same set up the SEC has, ESPN owns the channels, the conference owns the product & they split the profit
 
It's the same set up the SEC has, ESPN owns the channels, the conference owns the product & they split the profit
Do we know this or is it speculation?
 
That type partnership puts less immediate loss risk on the conference...and was probably modeled on the success of the SECN.

A little different scheme than the BTN in which the Big Ten is a minority owner (49%) and Fox the majority owner.

The PAC 12 does own their network and has problems monetizing it.

Having ESPN as a full partner does provide an incentive for ESPN to market like they did the SECN.
 
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ACC Network is expected to look a lot like ESPN’s other college sports conference channel, the SEC Network. ESPN launched SEC in 2014 around the time it and other Walt Disney Co. channel renewals were coming due. The ability to bundle the ACC Network launch with ESPN and other channels could be behind the logic for waiting until 2019 for the official launch of ACC Network. "

"ESPN will launch an ACC digital network next month called ACC Network Plus and a 24-hour linear channel in August '19 dubbed ACC Network, according to sources. Modeled on the SEC’s digital offering that ESPN launched two years ago, ACC Network Plus will be fully owned by ESPN and available to authenticated subscribers through WatchESPN and the ESPN app. ACC games that appear on ESPN3 will move to the digital ACC Network Plus. "
 
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Ah, more boneyard conventional wisdom on the opinions and thoughts of college presidents / administrators at other schools, without any actual evidence. Got it.

Well whatever - you'd be surprised I guess. Blumenthal did us no favors - pure and simple. The case was a farce. But one thing is for sure - it really doesn't matter now.
 
Well whatever - you'd be surprised I guess. Blumenthal did us no favors - pure and simple. The case was a farce. But one thing is for sure - it really doesn't matter now.
It wasn't a farce. It was likely the right call at the time It resulted in a seven figure settlement payment to the school and kept the Big East intact for a bit longer, which allowed football to grow into a BCS program.
 
Do you have a source?
You could Google it, ESPN owns the channels, Each SEC school receives a guarantee & production credits for any content they produce for the digital channel. Any profit after expenses is split between the conference & ESPN.
 
You could Google it, ESPN owns the channels, Each SEC school receives a guarantee & production credits for any content they produce for the digital channel. Any profit after expenses is split between the conference & ESPN.

Looked but I couldn't find it. Profit (net of expenses) is interesting. Are they amortizing start up costs? IF you stumble on to a link, post it. I'd be interested in looking at the details.
 
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Looked but I couldn't find it. Profit (net of expenses) is interesting. Are they amortizing start up costs? IF you stumble on to a link, post it. I'd be interested in looking at the details.
It was available when the network was announced but can't seem to find a link, I'm sure ESPN is recovering their upfront cost including the inventory they had to buy back from RSN's. The only thing I'm hearing that is different from the SECN is that the ACCN will focus more on digital distribution more so than placement of the linear channel.
 
There is actually a big incentive for the ACC to add a school or two right now. With a network, things like ratings and markets really matter, so while scheduling could be a problem with 15 full members, getting access to another market would really help. And with the Big 12 announcement, they have to move quickly or they could lose their top targets. The ACC surprises with a lot of its moves. Hopefully it will do so again.
 
There is actually a big incentive for the ACC to add a school or two right now. With a network, things like ratings and markets really matter, so while scheduling could be a problem with 15 full members, getting access to another market would really help. And with the Big 12 announcement, they have to move quickly or they could lose their top targets. The ACC surprises with a lot of its moves. Hopefully it will do so again.
The weakness in this proposed network is clearly the northeast corridor. How they don't find value in Uconn is beyond me. I would think adding UConn would help get carriage fees from Boston to lower Fairfield/westchester county up through Poughkeepsie and even Albany. Do you agree?
 
There is actually a big incentive for the ACC to add a school or two right now. With a network, things like ratings and markets really matter, so while scheduling could be a problem with 15 full members, getting access to another market would really help. And with the Big 12 announcement, they have to move quickly or they could lose their top targets. The ACC surprises with a lot of its moves. Hopefully it will do so again.
I thought you believed them to be the worst manged and least forward thinking of all of the conferences? Oh wait, that's my opinion of you.
 
The weakness in this proposed network is clearly the northeast corridor. How they don't find value in Uconn is beyond me. I would think adding UConn would help get carriage fees from Boston to lower Fairfield/westchester county up through Poughkeepsie and even Albany. Do you agree?
Maybe. The cable providers they need to deal with seem to already carry some form of the ACC in those markets via NESN and MSG as well as some of the local TV affiliates, including one in Hartford for FB.

One thing is certain is that they have all of the relevant TV ratings for all sports and have an understanding of how many "quality" programs they will need to fill the 2019 network. That will include women's BB, olympic sports and some of the more minor sports.

The question is whether or not the ACC needs #15 in FB without a firm join date for #16. 15 works for all the other sports without a problem. And if you like internet rumors and speculation, how about #16 in all sports being TX with TX getting the ND football deal form the ACC (5 games every year that count as conference games for the ACC).
 
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Say whaaaaaat? :rolleyes:

Pay attention. That's all I got. Shirley you will.

UofL has been streaming players into the NFL. With Petrino back and a hot QB, you may want to watch. Then also, with FSU and Clemson on tap before October, we'll know early.

I like where we're at.
 
Football is the driver for traditional ESPN and Fox TV contracts, Less so for a conference network.
 
there's too many moving parts to say with any confidence whether this is good or bad for UConn.

but my gut feeling says it's bad for UConn.

for the life of me I can't understand why FSU, Clemson, UNC, Virginia, and any other school with a puncher's chance at the SEC or Big 10 would sign an extended GOR.
Eastern coast is altogether a different market than the Midwest and deep South. It definitely has the long-term potential to compete with the Big Ten.
 
I have this 0.5% hope that when the ACC announces its network in a few hours that they also announce that they'll be adding UConn as well....I know it is a 99.5% long shot but there's just this small part of me that wants to hear it so it can all be over and we can play with regional teams we all wanna play!
 
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