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The nature of a conference affiliation could change quite a bit as the massive linear deals roll off. There are going to be some winners and losers within the current conferences.
Whoever doesn't already have facilities would be foolish to build them. California and West Virginia are experiencing massive shortfalls because of all they've invested in buildouts recently. If schools don't heed their troubles, they are liable to make things extremely bad in a decade.
 
Whoever doesn't already have facilities would be foolish to build them. California and West Virginia are experiencing massive shortfalls because of all they've invested in buildouts recently. If schools don't heed their troubles, they are liable to make things extremely bad in a decade.

West Virginia’s problems are mostly a function of joining the growth rat race for students without considering that they were WVU and kids didn’t want to go to the school or the state unless they had already been rejected everywhere else. I read that WVU has capacity for 33% more kids than they actually have, and the demographic cliff starts next year.
 
"Due on the vine." Some feel the same way about UConn basketball.


“If you put those two schools in the ACC, it’s going to be so easy for them to recruit nationally. So it will just benefit them in my opinion, not us,” Dorrance said. “There’s no way I want to share the glory of our conference with two schools that could do a very good job recruiting against us.”

He continued: “So basically I want Cal and Stanford die on the vine."
 
"Due on the vine." Some feel the same way about UConn basketball.


“If you put those two schools in the ACC, it’s going to be so easy for them to recruit nationally. So it will just benefit them in my opinion, not us,” Dorrance said. “There’s no way I want to share the glory of our conference with two schools that could do a very good job recruiting against us.”

He continued: “So basically I want Cal and Stanford die on the vine."

with their alumni, Cal and Stanford could take every single player of UNC's team the last day the Transfer Portal was open for the next 5 years, without even putting a dent in their financial firepower. Dorrance needs to choose his enemies a little better.
 
"Due on the vine." Some feel the same way about UConn basketball.


“If you put those two schools in the ACC, it’s going to be so easy for them to recruit nationally. So it will just benefit them in my opinion, not us,” Dorrance said. “There’s no way I want to share the glory of our conference with two schools that could do a very good job recruiting against us.”

He continued: “So basically I want Cal and Stanford die on the vine."
What a dumb-@$$ statement- Can't believe his AD or President are happy about the optics of such a rash public comment- even if they feel the same way.
 
with their alumni, Cal and Stanford could take every single player of UNC's team the last day the Transfer Portal was open for the next 5 years, without even putting a dent in their financial firepower. Dorrance needs to choose his enemies a little better.
Sure they could, you're so unbelievably clueless.
 
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I mean conference realignment is a giant “dying on the vine”. Everyone involved, from presidents to coaches to tv execs, have already written off the Cougars and Beavers. Isn’t really nicer saying it behind closed doors.
 
Dorrance is the Women's Soccer Coach at UNC...

Nuff said

UNC was runner up to Stanford in 2019

In the last 8 years...FSU has won 3 NC's, Stanford won 2, and UNC 0

Stanford has 3 NC's since 2010 in Women's Soccer.
 
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West Virginia’s problems are mostly a function of joining the growth rat race for students without considering that they were WVU and kids didn’t want to go to the school or the state unless they had already been rejected everywhere else. I read that WVU has capacity for 33% more kids than they actually have, and the demographic cliff starts next year.
Nothing to do with the demographic cliff. That’s a convenient excuse for massive mismanagement. Half a billion in new buildings and athletic facilities and no way to pay for it. It’s mismanagement. I always flat out reject this idea of a demographic cliff when you realize we had 9.5m students at 4 yr institutions in 1969 and now we have 10.5m. Back then total population was under 200m. This is all by design, it’s a choice.
 
West Virginia’s problems are mostly a function of joining the growth rat race for students without considering that they were WVU and kids didn’t want to go to the school or the state unless they had already been rejected everywhere else. I read that WVU has capacity for 33% more kids than they actually have, and the demographic cliff starts next year.
My main point is that, if TV revenues are going to contract, you’re going to damage your university if you take on huge loans you can’t pay back
 
Dorrance is the Women's Soccer Coach at UNC...

Nuff said

UNC was runner up to Stanford in 2019

In the last 8 years...FSU has won 3 NC's, Stanford won 2, and UNC 0

Stanford has 3 NC's since 2010 in Women's Soccer.
Billy, i don't know who needs to hear this, but no one here gives a flying chicken cluck what FSU accomplishments are. Nuff said.
 
Just pointing out that after an unprecedented run of Women's Soccer NC's...UNC has gottem pricklish about the competition of late...

And bringing in a competitor like Stanford didn't tickle the UNC coach's fancy.
 
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"Due on the vine." Some feel the same way about UConn basketball.


“If you put those two schools in the ACC, it’s going to be so easy for them to recruit nationally. So it will just benefit them in my opinion, not us,” Dorrance said. “There’s no way I want to share the glory of our conference with two schools that could do a very good job recruiting against us.”

He continued: “So basically I want Cal and Stanford die on the vine."

Wow, dumb and crass statement.

Most coaches who have been incredibly successful (and Dorrance certainly has) welcome competition and fear no one. Behind the scenes the might chuckle at others' misfortune, but they'd never do so publicly. That's usually left for the up-and-comers who havent had national success (looking at you Nate Oats).

For comparison, I would NEVER expect Geno or Saban to make a statement like that. I have a diminished view of Dorrance now.
 
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What's with all the meetings and calls? I assume they know everything there is to know about Cal, Stanford, and SMU at this point, so if they don't have the votes, what the heck are they discussing?
 
What's with all the meetings and calls? I assume they know everything there is to know about Cal, Stanford, and SMU at this point, so if they don't have the votes, what the heck are they discussing?
Sounds like they are discussing what to do with the extra money. Unsaid is the fact that while the ACC agreed to uneven revenue sharing last spring, they never formalized the exact nature of it. I imagine both these conversations are now happening in tandem.
 
What's with all the meetings and calls? I assume they know everything there is to know about Cal, Stanford, and SMU at this point, so if they don't have the votes, what the heck are they discussing?
Probably the allocation of the Stanford in California half shares and the SMU full share. Do the four hold outs only get a pro rata share or do they get something more than that.
 
Biggest nutkick yet. Sitting right in the ACCs footprint, they'd rather add two California schools and a Texas school. Its laughable at this point.

The only reason i hoped for the Big12 is these fools are just not that into us. Enough bad things can't happen to them.
 
Biggest nutkick yet. Sitting right in the ACCs footprint, they'd rather add two California schools and a Texas school. Its laughable at this point.

The only reason i hoped for the Big12 is these fools are just not that into us. Enough bad things can't happen to them.
Perhaps we're not as valuable as we think we are? Either that or we're just blackballed and no amount of winning or streaming subscribers will overcome that.
 
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More inclined that it is blackball. Brand, athletic program, academics, market and then success are too strong when compared to other teams that are getting called.
Uconn again is silent and not doing anything but just monitoring the situation. SMU about to get picked before Uconn . Yuckk. Whats the next school to pass Uconn? Devry university ? Lol
 

Sigh
That’s it . Gonna happen.

Then both AAC and MW will woo Oregon St and Wazzu, wanting to be the top G5.

OSU and WSU might even use this leverage to get the MW to disband and not take all teams. (Drop WY SJSU HI?).
 
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