ACC/ESPN joining the scheduling fun, happy days for Cuse

[IthacaMatt]

Unbelievable. Are you saying Syracuse has more of a football history than UConn? Wow. What a brilliant conclusion.

But are you massively overstating the last decade? You do know, right, that in just a few years in I-A, we've played at the Big House in front of a bigger crowd than you, beaten Notre Dame in South Bend, beaten South Carolina in SEC country and won twice at Big XII venues? While you've done exactly what?

Many on your board have found that irrelevant, because we've been in a down cycle for a decade. But they forget that your program is only a decade old. When your fan base has been around for generations, then you view things like rivalry and tradition differently.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Syracuse football is an aging whore still trying to get by on her looks.

It hasn't been working that well.

And you guys will never be more than a steppingstone program in the Atlantic 10 of Football.

 

[Fishy]

And yet we've owned you lock, stock and barrel.

 

[IthacaMatt]

And, unless you're invited on the island in the next few years, you guys will never be more than a steppingstone program in the Atlantic 10 of Football.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Unbelievable. Are you saying Syracuse has more of a football history than UConn? Wow. What a brilliant conclusion.

But are you massively overstating the last decade? You do know, right, that in just a few years in I-A, we've played at the Big House in front of a bigger crowd than you, beaten Notre Dame in South Bend, beaten South Carolina in SEC country and won twice at Big XII venues? While you've done exactly what?

Yeah, we beat Notre Dame there too, and also in the Dome. And we've beaten Auburn and then played them a triple overtime game down there, in SEC country, and yes in the last 10 years.

One thing you can't deny, we still schedule like we are the flagship football team in the conference. The rest of you could take a cue of from us, the last couple seasons notwithstanding.

 

[uconnfan68]

Yeah, we beat Notre Dame there too, and also in the Dome. And we've beaten Auburn and then played them a triple overtime game down there, in SEC country, and yes in the last 10 years.

One thing you can't deny, we still schedule like we are the flagship football team in the conference. The rest of you could take a cue of from us, the last couple seasons notwithstanding.

Just leave. You aren't wanted here.

 

[zls44]

One thing you can't deny, we still schedule like we are the flagship football team in the conference. The rest of you could take a cue of from us, the last couple seasons notwithstanding.

UConn has scheduled pretty well so far and in the future as well, Matt, c'mon. This isn't Rutgers.

 

[IthacaMatt]

UConn has scheduled pretty well so far and in the future as well, Matt, c'mon. This isn't Rutgers.

Yes, you guys stepped up the last few years. But if you look at out-of-conference scheduling since 2003, SU regularly plays more BCS teams than anyone else in the conference. We only stepped down our schedule a bit (dropping the Va Tech series), because we are so loaded with teams on the schedule. What did we play, 4 Big 10 teams a few years ago in one season?

But more importantly, the real point is that following the 2006 (?) bell-weather season when WVU, Rutgers and Louisville were all ranked in the top 10, the next few seasons, these schools who had the chance to be the standard bearers of the new conference and move into an upper tier of college programs, all scheduled OOC games like , and played no one of note, other than WVU. Then, Louisville lost Petrino, WVU lost Rich Rodriguez and Rutgers was stuck with Schiano and playing teams like the Coastal Academy and Howard University to remain bowl eligible.

 

[uconndogs]

The difference between Syracuse and BC was that we had actually been champions before. We have drawn 50,,000. We have beaten top 10 teams. We alone in our conference have the courage to schedule them, and we do, every year. You program will never have a victory like we had before over 100,000 at Michigan on national TV. You will never play and beat elite national programs, like we have done for 60 years. Sure, we've sucked for Greg Robinson's years, and Marrone has only shown himself to be a .500 coach so far. We'll see how much higher his ceiling might be.

Your program never appreciated that football is a sport of long tradition, kind of like baseball. Your quick success with the basketball programs made you think that football works the same way, but it doesn't. You have built very a successful football program so far, but you're still just a toddler of a program. Now, a Conference USA on steriods may work really well for where your football program is at. The money should be reasonably good.

But don't worry about SU losing money on this move to the ACC. We've got real fans, unlike BC. You've probably heard them at every other team's venue when we're on TV.

Same old from an Orange fan. Doesn't matter what's happened on the field for the last decade, they can always recall when Jim Brown and Ernie Davis ran up and down the field. Note to Orange fans from the newbies - you win college football games by controlling the line of scrimmage. Your program has not put solid lines on the field in over a decade which is why new programs like UCONN physically beat the crap out of you season after season. I don't see the Orange fixing that little problem anytime soon btw.

Honest to god, if you just look what takes place on the field maybe you'ld learn something about football.

Oh, and recent history has already shown that when the Orange lose the Carrier Dome goes empty. Syracuse better start winning football games on a regular basis or their future will look much like Indiana's only in the ACC.

 

[businesslawyer]

Many on your board have found that irrelevant, because we've been in a down cycle for a decade. But they forget that your program is only a decade old. When your fan base has been around for generations, then you view things like rivalry and tradition differently.

What a great argument technique. Instead of defending your post from being rationally criticized, your response is to say we have fans who don't get it (which, to some degree, is true by the way). And then you have the balls to say I'm overly harsh criticizing your posts? Time for you to go home.

 

[UConn990411]

Honestly, I don't think there is a fanbase out there that has a more over-inflated opinion of itself than Syracuse - their football program has been abysmal for awhile now, and their basketball team hasn't been past the Sweet 16 since 2003. Yet they constantly talk about how Syracuse is a "brand."

Get the duck* over yourselves.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Honestly, I don't think there is a fanbase out there that has a more over-inflated opinion of itself than Syracuse - their football program has been abysmal for awhile now, and their basketball team hasn't been past the Sweet 16 since 2003. Yet they constantly talk about how Syracuse is a "brand."

Get the duck* over yourselves.

We have more players in the Hall of Fame that everyone but USC, Notre Dame, Michigan and another school or two. We've played in something like 20 bowl games, including several BCS bowls. We're in the top 15 all time in wins as a program. That's what makes a brand. Even Nebraska had a down patch. The reason SU is a brand is because even when our football sucks, we still draw about 40,000 for football, and even though we haven't made it past the Sweet 16 since 2003, we still are one of the top 2 or 3 draws on the road and at home, combined, in all of college baasketball. But no, we're not a brand, we're just Rutgers. That's why we're still stuck in the Big Skidmark.

 

[UConn990411]

We have more players in the Hall of Fame that everyone but USC, Notre Dame, Michigan and another school or two. We've played in something like 20 bowl games, including several BCS bowls. We're in the top 15 all time in wins as a program. That's what makes a brand.

This is the delusion I'm talking about.

I don't think anyone will question Syracuse's history - it's right up there with just about anyone (and ahead of everyone in the Big East).

But it's been decades since that program has been relevant. No one cares about Syracuse football, so you can cut the "we're still a brand!!!!1" bulls**t.

 

[uconndogs]

We have more players in the Hall of Fame that everyone but USC, Notre Dame, Michigan and another school or two. We've played in something like 20 bowl games, including several BCS bowls. We're in the top 15 all time in wins as a program. That's what makes a brand. Even Nebraska had a down patch. The reason SU is a brand is because even when our football sucks, we still draw about 40,000 for football, and even though we haven't made it past the Sweet 16 since 2003, we still are one of the top 2 or 3 draws on the road and at home, combined, in all of college baasketball. But no, we're not a brand, we're just Rutgers. That's why we're still stuck in the Big Skidmark.

We are in the process of watching our beloved conference go down the tter. Do you really think we want a discorse here on the famed history of Syracuse football? Get a clue.....