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ACC Did Permanent Damage

prankster said:
To follow where, exactly?

I am asking, not to pick a fight, or anything, but out of profound ignorance.

Are there open invitations to those schools from other conferences, or is there some kind of plan to re-invigorate the independent football schools, somehow?

(Basically I'm asking where does UConn go to get one of those open invitations.)
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I would expect ND to stay independent but I’d imagine ND would want some kind of deal with another conference similar to what they have with the acc, while the other sports join the conference
 
Travelman6 said:
What is this I'm hearing about 12 teams playing 9 conference games and 5 teams playing 8 conference games next year? Lol
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It’s called the ‘anything but UConn’ plan.
It’s really mind boggling when such an obvious solution exists, but the decisions all seem to dance around it. Like it’s well known that’s the obvious choice, so we’ll do anything but that.
Normally that’s a sign of money making a decision. Guessing ESPN isn’t putting any more money into ACC. ESPN wants P2, get everyone else for pennies
 
JCisthegoat said:
The SEC would add Clemson and Florida state in a nano second 😂
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They'd already be in the SEC if that was the case. The only reason the two signed the GOR a decade ago was because their options were a) remain in the ACC and b) jump to the B-12.

The SEC will devote their future moves to expanding in states they don't yet have a presence (North Carolina, Virginia, Arizona) and culling a few redundancies.
 
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FfldCntyFan said:
They'd already be in the SEC if that was the case. The only reason the two signed the GOR a decade ago was because their options were a) remain in the ACC and b) jump to the B-12.

The SEC will devote their future moves to expanding in states they don't yet have a presence (North Carolina, Virginia, Arizona) and culling a few redundancies.
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That’s flawed logic. The SEC wasn’t looking to expand at that time. Their interests now are different than 2013
 
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JCisthegoat said:
The SEC would add Clemson and Florida state in a nano second 😂
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They likely would not! That’s one thing that came out of the ACC lawsuit. There was no huge demand for FSU and Clemson. And if they continue to be mediocre to bad they will be even less demand. Why would you add FSU when you have Florida who is a bigger brand? South Carolina is not going to buy into little brother Clemson.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
They'd already be in the SEC if that was the case. The only reason the two signed the GOR a decade ago was because their options were a) remain in the ACC and b) jump to the B-12.

The SEC will devote their future moves to expanding in states they don't yet have a presence (North Carolina, Virginia, Arizona) and culling a few redundancies.
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Do not see SEC moving West. Could see some interest in UNC and Virginia but again both have terrible history in the main sport for the SEC - football. I think this has a greater chance if basketball revenue is extracted away from the NCAA.
 
freescooter said:
They likely would not! That’s one thing that came out of the ACC lawsuit. There was no huge demand for FSU and Clemson. And if they continue to be mediocre to bad they will be even less demand. Why would you add FSU when you have Florida who is a bigger brand? South Carolina is not going to buy into little brother Clemson.
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They would not. Pure idiocy.
 
Fishy said:
Wishcasting.

They’re five years from tipping over the B12 with one phone call to West Virginia.
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but why would a Big12 school join the ACC before knowing what the next ACC tv deal looks like? The Big12 on the other hand is going to have a new tv deal negotiated, including exit fees, before the ACC. That will prevent any schools from leaving the Big12 and position them to do the same thing to the ACC that they did to the PAC.
 
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FfldCntyFan said:
They'd already be in the SEC if that was the case. The only reason the two signed the GOR a decade ago was because their options were a) remain in the ACC and b) jump to the B-12.

The SEC will devote their future moves to expanding in states they don't yet have a presence (North Carolina, Virginia, Arizona) and culling a few redundancies.
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It is hard to predict what ESPN might try to push. But the values of Clemson and FSU as football brands are rapidly diminishing and Miami (and their fertile recruiting grounds) is on the rise.

As the SEC programs face the consequences on a 9 game league schedule there may be a power/priorities shift away from pleasing ESPN and toward appeasing the large donors. That could perhaps include curtailing efforts to transform the SEC into something less southern (even if the Big 8 schools are already doing that).
 
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ec33 said:
It is hard to predict what ESPN might try to push. But the values of Clemson and FSU as football brands are rapidly diminishing and Miami (and their fertile recruiting grounds) is on the rise.

As the SEC programs face the consequences on a 9 game league schedule there may be a power/priorities shift away from pleasing ESPN and toward appeasing the large donors. That could perhaps include curtailing efforts to transform the SEC into something less southern (even if the Big 8 schools are already doing that).
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Money often tips the scales. The SEC football programs might come to see a benefit from having a few more patsies instead of constantly beating one another up, and getting national market exposure rather than regional, and strengthening basketball.

We already saw Texas complaining that they missed the playoffs because their schedule was too tough. The SEC teams can't expect to play a gauntlet of 5-6 top 20 teams per year and not come away with 2-3 losses. Then it's hard to judge resumes of all the 2-3 loss teams.

We've already seen the SEC and Big 12 make big investments in basketball starting a few years ago. Something is brewing.
 
Kick out ND. Take UConn.

Improves the basketball product.

UConn has proven it can compete in football, baseball, soccer, etc.

It gives the ACC a meaningful presence in New York and Boston.
 
Palatine said:
Kick out ND. Take UConn.

Improves the basketball product.

UConn has proven it can compete in football, baseball, soccer, etc.

It gives the ACC a meaningful presence in New York and Boston.
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Sadly, Anti UConn ESPN controls the ACC while the State Government continues to give them tax breaks.
 
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