ACC Did Permanent Damage

[FfldCntyFan]

The SEC would add Clemson and Florida state in a nano second 😂

They'd already be in the SEC if that was the case. The only reason the two signed the GOR a decade ago was because their options were a) remain in the ACC and b) jump to the B-12.

The SEC will devote their future moves to expanding in states they don't yet have a presence (North Carolina, Virginia, Arizona) and culling a few redundancies.

 

[CL82]

The SEC will devote their future moves to expanding in states they don't yet have a presence (North Carolina, Virginia, Arizona) and culling a few redundancies.

And Connecticut?

Just throwing that out there.

 

[JCisthegoat]

They'd already be in the SEC if that was the case. The only reason the two signed the GOR a decade ago was because their options were a) remain in the ACC and b) jump to the B-12.

The SEC will devote their future moves to expanding in states they don't yet have a presence (North Carolina, Virginia, Arizona) and culling a few redundancies.

That’s flawed logic. The SEC wasn’t looking to expand at that time. Their interests now are different than 2013

 

[upstater]

And Connecticut?

Just throwing that out there.

It is the southernmost New England state. So it would be a natural.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

An 8 page thread about Notre Dame football on the basketball board. Just the Boneyard being the Boneyard.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

It is the southernmost New England state. So it would be a natural.

The more you think about it, CT is in Southeastern New England. Done deal!

 

[John]

An 8 page thread about Notre Dame football on the basketball board. Just the Boneyard being the Boneyard.

Not sure what you’re getting at here?

 

[freescooter]

The SEC would add Clemson and Florida state in a nano second 😂

They likely would not! That’s one thing that came out of the ACC lawsuit. There was no huge demand for FSU and Clemson. And if they continue to be mediocre to bad they will be even less demand. Why would you add FSU when you have Florida who is a bigger brand? South Carolina is not going to buy into little brother Clemson.

 

[JwittersPAC]

They'd already be in the SEC if that was the case. The only reason the two signed the GOR a decade ago was because their options were a) remain in the ACC and b) jump to the B-12.

The SEC will devote their future moves to expanding in states they don't yet have a presence (North Carolina, Virginia, Arizona) and culling a few redundancies.

Do not see SEC moving West. Could see some interest in UNC and Virginia but again both have terrible history in the main sport for the SEC - football. I think this has a greater chance if basketball revenue is extracted away from the NCAA.

 

[Fishy]

The ACC is 10 years away from ceasing to exist

Wishcasting.

They’re five years from tipping over the B12 with one phone call to West Virginia.

 

[Fishy]

They likely would not! That’s one thing that came out of the ACC lawsuit. There was no huge demand for FSU and Clemson. And if they continue to be mediocre to bad they will be even less demand. Why would you add FSU when you have Florida who is a bigger brand? South Carolina is not going to buy into little brother Clemson.

They would not. Pure idiocy.

 

[bendm]

Wishcasting.

They’re five years from tipping over the B12 with one phone call to West Virginia.

but why would a Big12 school join the ACC before knowing what the next ACC tv deal looks like? The Big12 on the other hand is going to have a new tv deal negotiated, including exit fees, before the ACC. That will prevent any schools from leaving the Big12 and position them to do the same thing to the ACC that they did to the PAC.

 

[ec33]

They'd already be in the SEC if that was the case. The only reason the two signed the GOR a decade ago was because their options were a) remain in the ACC and b) jump to the B-12.

The SEC will devote their future moves to expanding in states they don't yet have a presence (North Carolina, Virginia, Arizona) and culling a few redundancies.

It is hard to predict what ESPN might try to push. But the values of Clemson and FSU as football brands are rapidly diminishing and Miami (and their fertile recruiting grounds) is on the rise.

As the SEC programs face the consequences on a 9 game league schedule there may be a power/priorities shift away from pleasing ESPN and toward appeasing the large donors. That could perhaps include curtailing efforts to transform the SEC into something less southern (even if the Big 8 schools are already doing that).

 

[pj]

It is hard to predict what ESPN might try to push. But the values of Clemson and FSU as football brands are rapidly diminishing and Miami (and their fertile recruiting grounds) is on the rise.

As the SEC programs face the consequences on a 9 game league schedule there may be a power/priorities shift away from pleasing ESPN and toward appeasing the large donors. That could perhaps include curtailing efforts to transform the SEC into something less southern (even if the Big 8 schools are already doing that).

Money often tips the scales. The SEC football programs might come to see a benefit from having a few more patsies instead of constantly beating one another up, and getting national market exposure rather than regional, and strengthening basketball.

We already saw Texas complaining that they missed the playoffs because their schedule was too tough. The SEC teams can't expect to play a gauntlet of 5-6 top 20 teams per year and not come away with 2-3 losses. Then it's hard to judge resumes of all the 2-3 loss teams.

We've already seen the SEC and Big 12 make big investments in basketball starting a few years ago. Something is brewing.

 

[Palatine]

Kick out ND. Take UConn.

Improves the basketball product.

UConn has proven it can compete in football, baseball, soccer, etc.

It gives the ACC a meaningful presence in New York and Boston.

 

[buddy]

Kick out ND. Take UConn.

Improves the basketball product.

UConn has proven it can compete in football, baseball, soccer, etc.

It gives the ACC a meaningful presence in New York and Boston.

Sadly, Anti UConn ESPN controls the ACC while the State Government continues to give them tax breaks.

 

[Ha Who]

Sadly, Anti UConn ESPN controls the ACC while the State Government continues to give them tax breaks.

Maybe our senior senator can help us

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Maybe our senior senator can help us

All laughing aside, I'd imagine our brilliant politicians would at least think better of the ACC as opposed to the Big12.