About that offensive foul called on Stewie....

[Biff]

Unfortunately, for now, I had to do this in standards definition but, it's hard to see anything in real time and the angles they show are not the best. The baseline angle is useless.

So after the real time views and replays I zoomed and slow-motioned on Stewie in the lane. Watch closely. Stewie has good position and has the bull screened off with her right arm. She raises her arm to parallel which put it near chin level for the USF player. Then "it" happens.

Suddenly The USF player snaps her head and body back and severely to her left and dives behind Stewie. There was no contact that justified that type of response or trajectory.

The Ref that called the foul was on the baseline and completely blocked from being able to see if there was any contact or what type of contact. All he could see from there was the USF player falling to the floor with "panache".

So bad call, Good acting job by the USF player and very bad reffing. If anyone should have made a call who could see it it should have come from the ref near the bench sideline but of course he did not see an offensive foul that was not there.

Anyway, watch for yourself and interpret as you may. Again sorry I can't do it in HD right now.

 

[uconnfan68]

Unfortunately, for now, I had to do this in standards definition but, it's hard to see anything in real time and the angles they show are not the best. The baseline angle is useless.

So after the real time views and replays I zoomed and slow-motioned on Stewie in the lane. Watch closely. Stewie has good position and has the bull screened off with her right arm. She raises her arm to parallel which put it near chin level for the USF player. Then "it" happens.

Suddenly The USF player snaps her head and body back and severely to her left and dives behind Stewie. There was no contact that justified that type of response or trajectory.

The Ref that called the foul was on the baseline and completely blocked from being able to see if there was any contact or what type of contact. All he could see from there was the USF player falling to the floor with "panache".

So bad call, Good acting job by the USF player and very bad reffing. If anyone should have made a call who could see it it should have come from the ref near the bench sideline but of course he did not see an offensive foul that was not there.

Anyway, watch for yourself and interpret as you may. Again sorry I can't do it in HD right now.

The other call was worse.

 

[calpedaler]

and the Oscar goes to...

 

[Kaizen]

Unfortunately, for now, I had to do this in standards definition but, it's hard to see anything in real time and the angles they show are not the best. The baseline angle is useless.

So after the real time views and replays I zoomed and slow-motioned on Stewie in the lane. Watch closely. Stewie has good position and has the bull screened off with her right arm. She raises her arm to parallel which put it near chin level for the USF player. Then "it" happens.

Suddenly The USF player snaps her head and body back and severely to her left and dives behind Stewie. There was no contact that justified that type of response or trajectory.

The Ref that called the foul was on the baseline and completely blocked from being able to see if there was any contact or what type of contact. All he could see from there was the USF player falling to the floor with "panache".

So bad call, Good acting job by the USF player and very bad reffing. If anyone should have made a call who could see it it should have come from the ref near the bench sideline but of course he did not see an offensive foul that was not there.

Anyway, watch for yourself and interpret as you may. Again sorry I can't do it in HD right now.

Thanks. Great post.
After watching the video, I think it should be USF's reaching foul of Stewie.

 

[HoopsFan21]

I thought she started falling backwards before Stewie even moved her arm.

 

[UConnCat]

There was an offensive foul called against Stewart in the 2nd Qtr (about 1:50 to go) that may have been worse. Stewart went in to the lane to post up and made minimal contact with Ferreira who proceeded to flop like a Brazilian soccer player. Awful flop; awful call. It prompted this tweet from Carl Adamec:

carl adamec ‏@CarlAdamec 4h4 hours ago
USF's Laura Ferreira should be playing for Coach P #Flopper

 

[Kaizen]

Another foul call on Tuck (cannot remember time) is also way too ridiculous.

 

[Blue Huskie]

There was an offensive foul called against Stewart in the 2nd Qtr (about 1:50 to go) that may have been worse. Stewart went in to the lane to post up and made minimal contact with Ferreira who proceeded to flop like a Brazilian soccer player. Awful flop; awful call. It prompted this tweet from Carl Adamec:

carl adamec ‏@CarlAdamec 4h4 hours ago
USF's Laura Ferreira should be playing for Coach P #Flopper

Well said by both of you. I saw saw Ferreira flop after she shot a three. I really wish they would "T" players up when they do that and it's obvious (like tonight).

 

[UcMiami]

I actually think what happened is the USF player was trying to shift behind Stewart and tripped herself on Stewarts right foot, she overbalanced and grabbed at Stewart as she was falling and subsequently undercut her. That ref in particular was making very strange calls all night and raising the ire of Geno.

 

[Sonny44]

Unfortunately, for now, I had to do this in standards definition but, it's hard to see anything in real time and the angles they show are not the best. The baseline angle is useless.

So after the real time views and replays I zoomed and slow-motioned on Stewie in the lane. Watch closely. Stewie has good position and has the bull screened off with her right arm. She raises her arm to parallel which put it near chin level for the USF player. Then "it" happens.

Suddenly The USF player snaps her head and body back and severely to her left and dives behind Stewie. There was no contact that justified that type of response or trajectory.

The Ref that called the foul was on the baseline and completely blocked from being able to see if there was any contact or what type of contact. All he could see from there was the USF player falling to the floor with "panache".

So bad call, Good acting job by the USF player and very bad reffing. If anyone should have made a call who could see it it should have come from the ref near the bench sideline but of course he did not see an offensive foul that was not there.

Anyway, watch for yourself and interpret as you may. Again sorry I can't do it in HD right now.

Yea, she really suckered that ref as I thought at the time.

 

[HuskyNan]

I actually think what happened is the USF player was trying to shift behind Stewart and tripped herself on Stewarts right foot, she overbalanced and grabbed at Stewart as she was falling and subsequently undercut her. That ref in particular was making very strange calls all night and raising the ire of Geno.

Honestly, I thought it was a flop, one of several. Ferreira seems to be the designated flopper - after shooting a three (that missed) she grabbed Morgan and they both fell to the floor. Refs didn't buy it that time, though.

 

[Ukonnfan]

Honestly, I thought it was a flop, one of several. Ferreira seems to be the designated flopper - after shooting a three (that missed) she grabbed Morgan and they both fell to the floor. Refs didn't buy it that time, though.

Ferreira did the same last year. Shes just gotten better at what she does. At one point when Stewie was posting up, she laid her whole body on her. It was excessive.
Yes, the officiating sucked as well. ThoughI like USF's coach, but they are the new "cheap shot" champs of the AAC. Nurse was raked across the face in the second half with the ref standing right there. Nurse never complained. Shes tough. Should have been a flagrant, or at least reviewed. Im surprised Geno didnt get more excited. Some things were going on that could have hurt some players. That never needs to happen.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

but they are the new "cheap shot" champs of the AAC

Don't think you've been paying attention last couple of years. They have been at this for a while.

 

[Nuyoika]

There were a lot of odd calls in this game. At least 4 or 5 while a UConn player was posting up. I think there was 2 on Stewie while posting up 1 on Morgan, 1 on Collier and 1 on Lou I believe. We have all seen games where the refs are inconsistent. This game they were consistent; they were just consistently bad. I am more concerned that the calls yesterday in not just the UConn game, but in many of the other games I watched were in stark contrast to what I had seen up until that point. That is very concerning and puzzling to me. How do you go a quarter of the basketball season as an NCAA ref never calling anything in the paint to all of a sudden this weekend every post playing in the country is getting a foul call. I have been tracking this closely and after this weekend my numbers are all messed. Nothing makes sense. The only conclusion I can make is that there are not enough seasoned, knowledgeable refs in the sport to cover the games when there are more than a few ranked teams playing. Also..... can someone, anyone, somewhere in the NCAA make a decision on the Euro-Step? Kia used it beautifully twice vs Houston and both times they were called a travel. That is again a poor job by the ref. A euro-step fundamentally is not a travel since you have to have already been in motion and have dribbled the ball once to use it. Then yesterday I am watching multiple games at once and seeing euro-steps all over the place, none of which were called a travel. Who's job is it to make sure the refs they pay $500+ per game know not only the CURRENT rules but also know why, when, or how a rule has changed?

*** Side note... If this is any indication of what it will be like when we go to Columbia in February; our girls better be wearing hard-hats, knee pads, shin guards, and mouth guards. There were 56, yup FIFTY SIX, fouls called in the SCar vs Mizzou game yesterday.

 

[geneticrex]

Stewart was hosed TWICE on offensive calls.

How many more officials need to be out on the floor to correctly call these juvenile flop jobs, since 3 blind mice obviously can't get the job done???

 

[rbny1]

Officiating is difficult. I think it's more difficult than playing. Plus, we get to see the play from several angles and in slo-mo, so it's easy for us to recognize it was a bad call. What actually bothered me more during the game was that Stewie was repeatedly mugged in the low post and the officials ignored it. It was like the officials were saying, grab her and push her and put your arms around her as much as you want. We don't care.

 

[RSHERMVIKES]

The lack of any officials that can ref a WCBB and/or a WNBA game is amazing! There are NO good WBB referees! Those with a rep like Lisa Mattingly, Dennis DeMayo, Bryan Enterline, Dee Kantner, Denise Brooks, Bob Trammel, Eric Brewton, Tina Napier, Cameron Inouye, referee at least 4 games a week, most do 5! All over the country! It's not impossible to see, Lisa Mattingly, for example, Do a UCONN XL game on a Tuesday, at OKLA Thursday, at NEBR. on Friday, and Baylor on Sunday!
That's got to take a toll on them with planes, hotels, food, games, etc.
The WNBA unbelievably is worse!
It drives me nuts watching incompetent refs make unbelievable calls night after night!
If a touch is a foul how can 2 players crashing into each other be a no call?
The Stewie call mentioned above was a prime example of incompetent referees!
Yesterday, Sunday, there were 6 games on TV, and with the help of Directv I watched all of them. There was an average of 18 moving screens NOT CALLED in those 6 games! The player must be still while setting the screen, almost all of the screens set were moving screens! Either pivoting out or sticking a knee or foot out!
Charge/ Block calls should be simple even for the lousy refs. If the offense lowers their shoulder it's a charge every time! If the defense is MOVING in front of the offense it's a block!
Several years back I bumped into Patty Coyle then the NY Liberty coach at the XL center during a UCONN/Baylor game. I asked her how the players & coaches tolerated the ref calls and she said you have to keep quiet, if you protest too much, payback is coming as word spreads you gave it to those refs!
The problem in WCBB is the Leagues supervisors are all ex-refs so how are they going to write up their buddies from 20+ years of refereeing together! They need retired NBA refs to be hired as the supervisors with no ties to the refs or the Leagues!

 

[jcoton56]

Big compliments to our gals for maintaining composure. No matter the situation or score they never let the refs into their heads. The most demonstrative thing I saw was Stewie with a 2 handed power dribble after missing 2 put-backs on a play late in the game. Poise across the board! Another great reason to play a tough schedule.

 

[UConnCat]

Loose ball late in the game that Kia and Laksas dove for. Foul called on Nurse.

 

[Gate81]

After the Stanford game yesterday, where there was incredibly rough play especially late in the game, asst coach Amy Tucker explained that these days playing post is particularly challenging since if your back is to the basket, the defensive player is allowed not 1, not 2, but 3 points of contact -- or as she put it, two arms and a leg. So muggings are typical. Helps to put some of this garbage into perspective.

 

[Nuyoika]

The lack of any officials that can ref a WCBB and/or a WNBA game is amazing! There are NO good WBB referees! Those with a rep like Lisa Mattingly, Dennis DeMayo, Bryan Enterline, Dee Kantner, Denise Brooks, Bob Trammel, Eric Brewton, Tina Napier, Cameron Inouye, referee at least 4 games a week, most do 5! All over the country! It's not impossible to see, Lisa Mattingly, for example, Do a UCONN XL game on a Tuesday, at OKLA Thursday, at NEBR. on Friday, and Baylor on Sunday!
That's got to take a toll on them with planes, hotels, food, games, etc.
The WNBA unbelievably is worse!
It drives me nuts watching incompetent refs make unbelievable calls night after night!
If a touch is a foul how can 2 players crashing into each other be a no call?
The Stewie call mentioned above was a prime example of incompetent referees!
Yesterday, Sunday, there were 6 games on TV, and with the help of Directv I watched all of them. There was an average of 18 moving screens NOT CALLED in those 6 games! The player must be still while setting the screen, almost all of the screens set were moving screens! Either pivoting out or sticking a knee or foot out!
Charge/ Block calls should be simple even for the lousy refs. If the offense lowers their shoulder it's a charge every time! If the defense is MOVING in front of the offense it's a block!
Several years back I bumped into Patty Coyle then the NY Liberty coach at the XL center during a UCONN/Baylor game. I asked her how the players & coaches tolerated the ref calls and she said you have to keep quiet, if you protest too much, payback is coming as word spreads you gave it to those refs!
The problem in WCBB is the Leagues supervisors are all ex-refs so how are they going to write up their buddies from 20+ years of refereeing together! They need retired NBA refs to be hired as the supervisors with no ties to the refs or the Leagues!

Thanks for shedding a bit of light there. Wasn't aware of the league supervisor situation. It makes sense when you look at how some leagues have a style of fouling all their own. Then when they play out of conference they seem confused that the rest of the sport doesn't play that way.

 

[DaddyChoc]

Loose ball late in the game that Kia and Laksas dove for. Foul called on Nurse.

that was a good call, Nurse uncut (not to hurt) her... I said WTH Kia

 

[ndmb]

After the Stanford game yesterday, where there was incredibly rough play especially late in the game, asst coach Amy Tucker explained that these days playing post is particularly challenging since if your back is to the basket, the defensive player is allowed not 1, not 2, but 3 points of contact -- or as she put it, two arms and a leg. So muggings are typical. Helps to put some of this garbage into perspective.

It might not always be called, but I'm 99% positive that any contact from two hands is supposed to be an automatic foul. I didn't find the exact language, but I did find this relating to the rule changes which seems to suggest that it's only one hand:

"Defenders will be allowed to use hand-checks with a forearm or open hand with a bended elbow on an offensive post player whose back is to the basket."

 

[Nuyoika]

It might not always be called, but I'm 99% positive that any contact from two hands is supposed to be an automatic foul. I didn't find the exact language, but I did find this relating to the rule changes which seems to suggest that it's only one hand:

"Defenders will be allowed to use hand-checks with a forearm or open hand with a bended elbow on an offensive post player whose back is to the basket."

I do believe that is correct.

 

[Biff]

that was a good call, Nurse uncut (not to hurt) her... I said WTH Kia

Really? I can't see by any definition how you could call this an undercut. Absolutely not an undercut or anything close to one.

 

[UConnCat]

Really? I can't see by any definition how you could call this an undercut. Absolutely not an undercut or anything close to one.

I agree. Kia was behind Laksa when the ball became loose but Kia dove for the ball and Laksa didn't. Unusual for a foul to be called when two players are going after a loose ball like that. Even the announcer assumed it was a jump ball call and alternate possession. Not a big deal but one of a few unusual calls yesterday.

 

[UcMiami]

Really? I can't see by any definition how you could call this an undercut. Absolutely not an undercut or anything close to one.

I think it is sort of like 'over the back' fouls - in this case 'under' instead of over - in order for Kia to get to the loose ball she had to get past space that Laska had established as hers - like a soccer player being called for a foul for tackling from behind even if the first contact they make is with the ball.

 

[topogigio]

The Euro-players specialize in flopping (see soccer). That said, I don't understand why Natalie wasn't in the post to free up Stewie from the muggings.

 

[cferraro04]

Breanna Stewart #1 - not an offensive foul
Breanna Stewart #2 - not an offensive foul
Kia Nurse - should have been a no call
Morgan Tuck - only one way to describe it..."Ridiculous call!"

 

[TitleTown]

I usually never complain about officiating but yesterday was as bad an officiated a game as I have seen.