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Abandoning Big East has become a disaster for one-time powerhouses

The current top schools in the ACC have had their ups and downs. Krzyzewski's first 3 years at Duke were 17-13, 10-17, and 11-17. UNC floundered when they hired Matt Doherty. UVa struggled with Pete Gillen and Dave Leitao as coaches.

For Syracuse, I don't see them competing for one of the top spots in the ACC until Boeheim retires. But, as we all know, hiring the next successful coach at Duke, UNC, and Syracuse will be tricky. If Syracuse hires the right coach, they can compete.
 
UConnJim said:
The current top schools in the ACC have had their ups and downs. Krzyzewski's first 3 years at Duke were 17-13, 10-17, and 11-17. UNC floundered when they hired Matt Doherty. UVa struggled with Pete Gillen and Dave Leitao as coaches.

For Syracuse, I don't see them competing for one of the top spots in the ACC until Boeheim retires. But, as we all know, hiring the next successful coach at Duke, UNC, and Syracuse will be tricky. If Syracuse hires the right coach, they can compete.
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If you want a successful career in the Turkish basketball league, Boeheim is your guy. Jimmy has been sending kids out of the country faster than immigration and customs. Lol
 
freescooter said:
Yeah, sure. And the Big East is the best league, too. You guys are just silly. Why watch Duke, Virginia, UNC, NC State when you can watch Providence and Butler
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So did the Big East move its tourney to Greensboro to try and capture what the ACC had, or did the ACC move its tourney to Brooklyn to try and compete with the Big East?

If that's not a concession by the ACC, I don't know what is.
 
buddy said:
I believe it was their former AD Gene DeFilippo who worked with Miami and ESPN to begin the drive to shut UConn out. That was just the beginning, but he is the absolute one who started it all with ESPN. Never forget.
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I had a business meeting a few years ago with the Senior Athletic Director of an ACC school. I asked him why UConn had been left out of the league. He told me that he thought it may have had to do with former Connecticut Attorney General (current US Senator) Richard Blumenthal’s lawsuit against the ACC which was settled by the ACC paying nuisance value to settle the lawsuit.

The Senior ADs statement confirmed that the ole boys in Carolina have long memories and we’re not happy to be sued by Connecticut and even less happy to pay out a settlement.
 
If a P5 conference invite comes along you take it. However it doesn't make it the right move. The Big East is the best conference for UConn. Same goes for those other teams. If UConn was in the ACC or B10 they would be performing just like those schools.
 
freescooter said:
The move out of the Big East benefitted Villanova who could never seem to get over the hump when Syracuse UConn Pitt Louisville were all there. It also made a bunch of schools like St Johns, Providence and Seton Hall sort of relevant again because they had a lower bar without the Big teams. And obviously Xavier Creighton and Butler got a promotion. BC is what it was. Rutgers is better off. Norte Dame football has been to a few football tournaments At least in part due to the easier football schedule playing ACC teams gets them. They would drop basketball and every other sport to win football games if they had to.
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Villanova 1985. I’d say that was over the hump.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
In the end it was the schools of the c 7 that tried to destroyed
the conference.rightfully or wrongfully. The football schools knew it was leave or be relegated to G5 status.once the new ESPN contract was rejected. To be honest thec7 were most likely negotiating a separate deal with Fox before the Football schools left.
I will agree ND had no reason whatsoever to leave when the C7 left ( they left just like the FB schools the remnants became the AAC) , as they had more NYC fans than St John’s. plus a huge independent football income.
He failed to mention GT’s plight or Louisville , WVA, or Rutgers
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This is fake news. It’s not a telling of the actual events.
 
Bobol said:
I had a business meeting a few years ago with the Senior Athletic Director of an ACC school. I asked him why UConn had been left out of the league. He told me that he thought it may have had to do with former Connecticut Attorney General (current US Senator) Richard Blumenthal’s lawsuit against the ACC which was settled by the ACC paying nuisance value to settle the lawsuit.

The Senior ADs statement confirmed that the ole boys in Carolina have long memories and we’re not happy to be sued by Connecticut and even less happy to pay out a settlement.
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You made this story up.
 
Zissou said:
Villanova 1985. I’d say that was over the hump.
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They also had numerous 1 and 2 seeds, and a FF appearance in the larger conference.

They had a string of embarrassing post-season failures, but they did just fine in the regular season and sprinkled in a few deeper runs.
 
alexd. said:
If you're going to compare one league to another at least pick the top schools from BOTH leagues as examples.
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Ok who would you rather watch, UNC-Duke or Villanova blue Vs Villanova white? Villanova is light years beyond the rest of the conference right now. They have been to every Big East Final but 1 since the new league was formed and have won 4 of the last 5. They should probably just give them the trophy and save the money they spend on rent.

Oh and the ACC moved their tournament to Brooklyn to placate their new northern members and guess where the ACC schools have millions of alums? Not to copy the Big East. It didnt Translate well though so if that’s the one you went to it’s like saying you saw Hamilton at that theater in Wallingford.
 

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