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AAC holding $5 million UConn conference distribution payment in escrow as part of exit fee

Oh well.

Sort of nonsense. With the exception of Georgetown the folks who go to most of these schools wouldn’t get into UConn. Maybe not in 1983 but today UConn is a much better academic institution than a bunch of regional Catholic schools. We a major national university. They are as I said, glorified Central Connecticuts. Our only peer in that group, we’ll not exactly a peer. They are better honestly, is Georgetown. This is nostalgia pure and simple. If we finish middle of the pack in the Big East hoophound wont be hopping any more flights to CT than he does now.

I am not sure if this is sarcasm, intentionally hyperbolic, or just naivete showing itself. UConn is a fine institution with very good standards. However, the bolded statement is far from accurate.

The majority of the BE schools have more in common with the academic standards of UConn than UConn does with Georgetown and Villanova. Whether you look at SAT/ACT scores for accepted students, graduation rates, median salaries upon graduation, the data all shows the same thing. UConn only slightly outpaces most of the BE except for Nova and Georgetown who are at a different level. Xavier and St. Johns, maybe Seton Hall being the only schools lower... but even those are fine schools.

I happen to have the data to back that up (except from DePaul for some reason). For example (and I can give you whichever category you'd like to see):

SAT Verb 25thSAT Verb 75th
Villanova University
620​
710​
Georgetown University
680​
760​
University of Connecticut
600​
680​
Providence College
580​
660​
Creighton University
520​
640​
Butler University
580​
660​
Marquette University
570​
660​
Seton Hall University
570​
640​
St John's University-New York
540​
620​
Xavier University
540​
620​
Central Connecticut State University
500​
590​

Median earnings of graduates 10 years after enrollment:

Row LabelsSum of MD_EARN_WNE_P10
Georgetown University $ 93,500.00
Villanova University $ 77,900.00
Providence College $ 64,100.00
Marquette University $ 62,600.00
Creighton University $ 59,700.00
University of Connecticut $ 58,400.00
Seton Hall University $ 57,200.00
Butler University $ 56,600.00
St John's University-New York $ 55,200.00
DePaul University $ 53,300.00
Xavier University $ 51,600.00
Central Connecticut State University $ 47,900.00


I have a lot more data I can show, I'm just not familiar enough with this format of message board to show it in an easy to read format.


This whole land grant vs private university argument is kind of superfluous to the conversation of conference realignment. This is about sports (mainly basketball) and the target market for future students. I think UConn fits the BE just fine in both regards.
 
Actually there’s a massive difference in quality between the Big East and AAC.
I think head to head the AAC did very well last year against the NBE and it’s is getting been better each year. As a basketball fan I hope they continue to grow that conference.
The quality of players is pretty comparable. This coming year’s AAC might even be a tad stronger than the NBE depending on Memphis , UConn ,and Cinncy new coach.
So “Massive “ is a tad hyperbolic if not outright delusional.
Travel and the administration hoping old names will rekindle fan interest play a bigger part in our move than basketball quality.
In the end it’s all about money both costs and revenues not quality of competition to pretend otherwise is simply having your head in the sand.
 
I think head to head the AAC did very well last year against the NBE and it’s is getting been better each year. As a basketball fan I hope they continue to grow that conference.
The quality of players is pretty comparable. This coming year’s AAC might even be a tad stronger than the NBE depending on Memphis , UConn ,and Cinncy new coach.
So “Massive “ is a tad hyperbolic if not outright delusional.
Travel and the administration hoping old names will rekindle fan interest play a bigger part in our move than basketball quality.
In the end it’s all about money both costs and revenues not quality of competition to pretend otherwise is simply having your head in the sand.

Look man, it just isn’t. By every single objective statistic and standard the Big East is a significantly better conference than the AAC.

Last year was the AAC’s best and the Big East’s worst and the Big East was still much better.
 
The quality of players is pretty comparable.

by my count, since 2014 current Big East teams have had 18 players drafted into the NBA. Current AAC teams (not including UConn) have had 8
 
I think head to head the AAC did very well last year against the NBE and it’s is getting been better each year. As a basketball fan I hope they continue to grow that conference.
The quality of players is pretty comparable. This coming year’s AAC might even be a tad stronger than the NBE depending on Memphis , UConn ,and Cinncy new coach.
So “Massive “ is a tad hyperbolic if not outright delusional.
Travel and the administration hoping old names will rekindle fan interest play a bigger part in our move than basketball quality.
In the end it’s all about money both costs and revenues not quality of competition to pretend otherwise is simply having your head in the sand.
AAC better than the NBE this year? What are you smoking?

The Big East is strong this year. Markus Howard and Myles Powell will be fighting for national player of the year.
 
by my count, since 2014 current Big East teams have had 18 players drafted into the NBA. Current AAC teams (not including UConn) have had 8
How many of those are from Villanova?
 
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How many of those are from Villanova?

what's it matter? that's like asking how many ACC guys were drafted but not from Duke. they still count for the conference...
 
I get why a UConn or Cincy fan would try to convince themselves that the AAC isn't the C-USA of the early 2000's... but now that UConn is moving back to the BE, why keep up the charade?

AZHuskyPop, in what way do you think the AAC is going to be stronger than the BE? T-rank for example has 2 of 12 AAC teams in the top 50 for this coming year compared to 7 of 10 BE teams. It just isn't comparable. UConn belongs in the BE and should have no love loss for the AAC, it was never a good fit.
 
I get why a UConn or Cincy fan would try to convince themselves that the AAC isn't the C-USA of the early 2000's... but now that UConn is moving back to the BE, why keep up the charade?

AZHuskyPop, in what way do you think the AAC is going to be stronger than the BE? T-rank for example has 2 of 12 AAC teams in the top 50 for this coming year compared to 7 of 10 BE teams. It just isn't comparable. UConn belongs in the BE and should have no love loss for the AAC, it was never a good fit.

Marquette in Milwaukee?
 
Marquette in Milwaukee?

Yep, occasional lurker until the announcement. Historically UConn was in my top 3 favorite MBB teams until the BE implosion in 2013. Only slightly bitter because I felt UConn had a hand in the disaster... but excited to see them back.
 
Yep, occasional lurker until the announcement. Historically UConn was in my top 3 favorite MBB teams until the BE implosion in 2013. Only slightly bitter because I felt UConn had a hand in the disaster... but excited to see them back.

Eh, I disagree with this but welcome aboard.

I think I speak for the vast majority of UConn fans when I say I’m happy to be back!
 
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what's it matter? that's like asking how many ACC guys were drafted but not from Duke. they still count for the conference...

In 2019...pretty good spread of draftees from ACC

3 from Duke
3 from UNC
3 from Virginia
2 from FSU
1 from VT
1 from Miami
 
I think I answered the "perception" vs reality of the poster's observation.

Sometimes the intense media concentration on a team or star will lead folks to think that they are the only thing going on...

It was that way with Duke last year and Zion...next year it will be someone else in another conference...but all that attention will mask what other programs have done in that conference.
 
What happened to all the arguments over the last 3 or 4 years about how much better a basketball league the AAC was compared to the NBE?

Most people love the one they’re with until they’re not.
 
Without UConn in it, the AAC IS Conference USA with a few alternate members

In 2006, it was:

Memphis
East Carolina
UCF
Houston
Tulsa
SMU
Tulane
****
Southern Miss
UAB
Rice
UTEP

Southern Miss, UAB, Rice and UTEP are gone.

IN are Cincinnati (who left CUSA in 2004), USF (who left w. Cincinnati), Temple, Navy (football only), Wichita State (basketball only)

Army was in as late as 2004, so Navy's basically replaced them. Cincinnati and USF are back where they started. They basically just added Wichita for hoops and Temple since 2005 while dumping Southern MIss, UAB, UTEP and Rice. Temple and Southern Miss in football seems like a lateral move, if not an outright step back assuming football is the only priority. And UAB is on a shortlist of schools they'd be bringing back in.

Again - it's the epitome of spinning your wheels in that conference. No one wanted to be in then. Those who could get out did, but weren't compelling enough to keep, so ended up back there. It's always going to be like that. Just an expensive revolving door that anyone who can get off should get off.
 
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even with UConn the AAC was always C-USA 2.0 in my mind

Even with us it WAS Conference USA. From a hoops perspective, you basically switch us out for Louisville..... who also bolted the conference. Twice.
 
Even with us it WAS Conference USA. From a hoops perspective, you basically switch us out for Louisville..... who also bolted the conference. Twice.
Agree - especially since UConn never brought anything to the conference after the NC.
 
This seems like a big deal! (Shoutout to whatever this kid’s Boneyard handle is)


Yes, though I do believe there's a stipulation that we will not share the NCAA units that were earned prior to our entry date, but otherwise we will get a full distribution in TV/new NCAA units going forward.
 
Yes, though I do believe there's a stipulation that we will not share the NCAA units that were earned prior to our entry date, but otherwise we will get a full distribution in TV/new NCAA units going forward.

I mean, still that seems like a good deal.
 
I mean, still that seems like a good deal.
I mean, it's good, I'll take the full distribution, but that article also makes the comparison to Rutgers not getting an equal conference payout until 2021 (seemingly making it look like we're getting a better deal than them). But we know that Rutgers is getting a portion of Tens of millions of dollars, and we're only getting a fraction of that (albeit the full distribution).
 
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What happened to all the arguments over the last 3 or 4 years about how much better a basketball league the AAC was compared to the NBE?
It turns out 91% of fans supported the move to the Big East. Those arguments were foolish, and apparently from the vocal 9% that opposed the move.
 
Yes, though I do believe there's a stipulation that we will not share the NCAA units that were earned prior to our entry date, but otherwise we will get a full distribution in TV/new NCAA units going forward.

There certainly is...
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It turns out 91% of fans supported the move to the Big East. Those arguments were foolish, and apparently from the vocal 9% that opposed the move.

I doubt it’s even 9% to be honest
 
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