AAC basketball post UConn?

[CL82]

Right. The Big East has 1 more than the American. And another Final Four team. So pretty close. Using your logic. the WCC must be pretty good too. Gonzaga has been to lots of final fours. Let me say this one more time. Villanova is really good. The rest of the league is pretty average. Villanova won 2 titles. The rest of the league has had 2 teams get to the 2nd weekend. Villanova=good. Rest of league=not that good. Clear?

LOL, refresh my memory which team won a national championship in the American? What conference are they now?

 

[uconnfan68]

Bringing 3 titles and winning a 4th doesn't earn respect? Bringing what little juice this pathetic league ever had doesn't earn respect? Look at those drooling over a semi-final loss. We won the damn thing. Putz.

In the AAC, we had very little success, other than the 2014 NC. We didn’t even win the league title or tournament that year.

 

[Waquoit]

Temple who won NITs when it was way more prestigious than the NCAA. Much tougher fields too.

Nonsense. They beat BCU in 1969, long past the NIT's prime. The NCAA's had Lew Alcindor. Your few posts are just willful ignorance.

 

[Waquoit]

In the AAC, we had very little success, other than the 2014 NC. We didn’t even win the league title or tournament that year.

Because it was such a dog league. We started thriving again the second it was known we were leaving.

 

[uconnfan68]

Because it was such a dog league. We started thriving again the second it was known we were leaving.

So we just stayed bad enough to lose KO?

 

[John]

UConn got into D1 FB to save the hoops programs. It almost killed them instead.

Uconn basketball nearly killed Uconn basketball. They were largely non-competative as an AAC supposed standard bearer.

 

[CL82]

So we just stayed bad enough to lose KO?

KO was pretty good at losing all on his own.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

The part of the UConn fanbase that buys tickets and attends games never accepted the AAC. That was evident by all of the empty seats in the lower bowl at Gampel during every AAC game. The move back to the Big East was an unquestioned positive for the fans who put their money where their mouth is. The seats will still be sold for top dollar but in the Big East, people will be sitting in them.

The move from the AAC to Big East was an example of Ronald Regan’s old adage “people vote with their feet“
In our case the one money making athletic endeavor became a money loser because large numbers of fans deserted the program. Rightfully or wrongfully longing for the Old Big East by Joining the new Big East is a dream.
Add to that a AAC media deal that was less than stellar.
We had expenses far beyond the typical AAC team. We were buoyed by getting a huge share of the old Big East’s treasury which was running out.
The decision was made to return the men’s BB team to the Black as the Big East has the best contract around.
P5 media deals are essentially a football contract. If the new AAC media deal was 12/15million a year we would still be in that league.
The Big problem with leaving the AAC is really not BB it’s football.
By separating football from a conference and going independent you set in process the means to either downgrade or dropping the sport.
You also forgo any possibility of a future P5 deal barring a football miracle. By divorcing the two you can blame football for your financial woes.
Football revenue will Plummet.
BB fans may.be happy but from a University perspective it’s the equivalent of a White Flag
What the Big East schools have in common is they have no illusions of a P5 conference just add UConn to the list.
Teams of the AAC still have a slim hope. The real argument is not what league is better , it’s about maximizing the bottom line.

 

[prankster]

The move from the AAC to Big East was an example of Ronald Regan’s old adage “people vote with their feet“
In our case the one money making athletic endeavor became a money loser because large numbers of fans deserted the program. Rightfully or wrongfully longing for the Old Big East by Joining the new Big East is a dream.
Add to that a AAC media deal that was less than stellar.
We had expenses far beyond the typical AAC team. We were buoyed by getting a huge share of the old Big East’s treasury which was running out.
The decision was made to return the men’s BB team to the Black as the Big East has the best contract around.
P5 media deals are essentially a football contract. If the new AAC media deal was 12/15million a year we would still be in that league.
The Big problem with leaving the AAC is really not BB it’s football.
By separating football from a conference and going independent you set in process the means to either downgrade or dropping the sport.
You also forgo any possibility of a future P5 deal barring a football miracle. By divorcing the two you can blame football for your financial woes.
Football revenue will Plummet.
BB fans may.be happy but from a University perspective it’s the equivalent of a White Flag
What the Big East schools have in common is they have no illusions of a P5 conference just add UConn to the list.
Teams of the AAC still have a slim hope. The real argument is not what league is better , it’s about maximizing the bottom line.

If people don't want to go to the games, nobody is going to stop them.

 

[Hoophound]

We will be better off financially as an Independent. AAC football wasn’t helping us at all. We will have a more interesting schedule and more fans in the seats in the future. Aside from that, recruiting appears better as an Indy. If Randy starts winning some games we might see ourselves in a pretty solid situation all things considered.

 

[hank970]

We will be better off financially as an Independent. AAC football wasn’t helping us at all. We will have a more interesting schedule and more fans in the seats in the future. Aside from that, recruiting appears better as an Indy. If Randy starts winning some games we might see ourselves in a pretty solid situation all things considered.

"The Lord helps those who help themselves," or so the old saying goes.
You can't blame UConn's football woes on anyone or anything but yourselves. Other teams in the AAC appear to be prospering.
Time will tell whether independence resucitates UConn football. I'm betting it won't. It isn't in your DNA.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

In the AAC, we had very little success, other than the 2014 NC. We didn’t even win the league title or tournament that year.

We won the league tourney in 2016 which is more important than regular season . As the AAC plays an unbalanced schedule which frequently allows lesser teams a better regular season.
We actually won more AAC tourney games than anyone from 2014-2017 .
So in a four year period we won a NC and a tourney title
but in the eyes of 5he BY it should have been 3 NC in 4 years.
In 2010 we were 7-11
2011. 9-9
2012. 8-10
2013. 10-8
34-38 in four years
We weren’t exactly killing it in the Big East ya the Big East was great but we never had the depth of quality of players we had either.
AAC
2014. 12-6
2015. 10-8
2016. 11-7
2017. 9-9
42-30 in the AAC
2012 once in a lifetime HOF coach retired and we were relegated to an unknown league with a prediction of doom
Side note
In 2010
Dyson
Kemba
Sticks
Edwards
Oriakhi
Jamal Coombs-McDaniel
Majok
Wow I forgot how badly they underperformed .
when you consider they started 3 seniors plus Kemba that’s worse than 2012 who at least was younger.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

If people don't want to go to the games, nobody is going to stop them.

Which explains why UConn took the fork in the road when they came upon it.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Exactly Pal. This league is the A-10 with Villanova. Or the WCC plus Gonzaga.

The original Big East was a power conference. Had multiple national champions. Twice in the last 10 years of existence it had multiple Final Four teams. 3 different teams won titles. 6 different teams went to the Final Four. Six. This league hasn’t gotten 6 teams past the 1st weekend. It has nothing to do with football. Nothing to do with computer rankings. It had to do with actual production when production counts. This New Big East is like Duke in 1999. They put up a banner for “winning” the KenPom or some other geekish national championship. We put up a banner for winning the game. Sad to say this, but the New Big East fans sound more like Dukies than UConn fans. “The computers say we’re #5 conference.” Sad. Just sad.

You start off connecting on all 4s with your "Pal," and finish up with, "Sad. Just sad."

The wide swing has a dubious vibe to it, as though you're happy to be unhappy, and happier still to have someone to share the misery with.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

BTW, you are pretending I said something than calling me delusion for saying the thing you made up and I never said. I am not pining for anything except the fjords.

Huh?
Proofread.

IMHO

Is it autocorrect that keeps inserting the H? No other explanation makes sense.

 

[SoFla Steve]

2021 Massey Conference Ratings - Top 10

There's a big gap between the P6 and the rest. Also, the Big East is ahead of the ACC.

 

[Waquoit]

If people don't want to go to the games, nobody is going to stop them.

You could join a better league.

 

[CL82]

2021 Massey Conference Ratings - Top 10

There's a big gap between the P6 and the rest. Also, the Big East is ahead of the ACC.

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Actually, the gap between the ACC and AAC is smaller than the gap between the the BE and the ACC.

 

[Get a Job]

Actually, the gap between the ACC and AAC is smaller than the gap between the the BE and the ACC.

24 is smaller than 7?

 

[CL82]

24 is smaller than 7?

Uh, in new math...?

Seriously, I have no idea how I brain farted on that. Lol.

 

[John]

You could join a better league.

Or win a few games.

 

[Waquoit]

Or win a few games.

It's over John. It's OVER!

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Uh, in new math...?

Seriously, I have no idea how I brain farted on that. Lol.

Well-acknowledged, and promptly so. That's both rare & refreshing here.

 

[John]

It's over John. It's OVER!

What is?

 

[MU in MKE]

This is pretty accurate. I’d add Xavier to the semi-relevant column. Georgetown won’t say it out loud, but they are effectively deemphasizing athletics, or more correctly following an Ivy League model. This years run was one of those flukes that happen every now and then. The powers at the school will consider it a perfect year any time they win as many as they lose. Just note to that any discussion of the regional coherence of the New Big East kind of ignores the location of Creighton, Butler, DePaul, Marquette, Xavier. Those are all harder to get to from Hartford than Tampa, Orlando, Houston, Dallas. And give me New Orleans over any place in Nebraska.

Not sure how hard you think it is to get to DePaul or Xavier as they have direct flights. Yes, so you need a connecting flight to get to Omaha, Indianapolis, or Milwaukee. But Hartford has (had?) direct flights to Chicago and Cincinnati. And have you forgotten that AAC already HAS a team in Cincinnati?

Regardless, I'm not sure why you compare them to Tampa, Orlando, Houston, or Dallas anyway... those are all longer flights (although direct). But you should be comparing them to Wichita, Tulsa, and Memphis. All of which are one layover flights AND longer flight times. Plus I'd love to know how much more exciting Wichita is than Omaha. I've been to neither, would love a review!