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PAC-12 coaches know better, naming Mya to First Tram All-PAC-12. Sixth in scoring, second in rebounding, first in double doubles. If Massey is right, Colorado is a tournament team. And all this after losing their All PAC-12 Defensive First Teamer Sherrod after beating then No. 1 Stanford.
I get that youre a Colorado fan, but making a 15 person All Pac 12 team is very different than making a 15 person All America team. And Massey isn't an indicator for making the tournament. Charlie Creme doesn't have them in the tournament and his picks are usually pretty accurate for who receives a bid and who doesn't
Realistically she isn't on anyone's radar for AA honors.
 
Well that didn’t stop Delle Donne, Bell could be a top 3 draft pick by the time she leaves college.
Well it actually did cost EDD because despite being CAA's Player of the Year for the 2009-11 seasons EDD was not named a WBCA AA during her first two season at Delaware. EDD was not named WBCA AA until her Junior season in which she led the nation in scoring. This was not necessarily bias towards P5 schools either because during the 09-11 season Amber Harris of Xavier and Courtney Vandersloot of Gonzaga.
I agree that Bell can be a top WNBA pick but just don't see her or Hayes making AA unless they put up those numbers for a few more years.
 
PAC-12 coaches know better, naming Mya to First Tram All-PAC-12. Sixth in scoring, second in rebounding, first in double doubles. If Massey is right, Colorado is a tournament team. And all this after losing their All PAC-12 Defensive First Teamer Sherrod after beating then No. 1 Stanford.
She’s an all-P12 talent. She’s not a top All-America candidate. Really don’t understand why we all keep debating this with you. Either she’ll be named one or she won’t.
 
Well it actually did cost EDD because despite being CAA's Player of the Year for the 2009-11 seasons EDD was not named a WBCA AA during her first two season at Delaware. EDD was not named WBCA AA until her Junior season in which she led the nation in scoring. This was not necessarily bias towards P5 schools either because during the 09-11 season Amber Harris of Xavier and Courtney Vandersloot of Gonzaga.
I agree that Bell can be a top WNBA pick but just don't see her or Hayes making AA unless they put up those numbers for a few more years.

The difference too is that Xavier and Delaware were stronger teams than FGCU is this year. Xavier was a 2 seed in 2010 and a 3 seed in 2011. Delaware was a 3 seed and a 6 seed in 2012 and 2013. Gonzaga was only an 11 seed, but Vandersloot didn't receive any national recognition until her senior season when she broke the single season assist record and was the first NCAA player to ever hit 2000 points/1000 assists. FGCU hasn't been top 25 all year, same with MTSU. I think Hayes/Bell may be on more radars next year, but usually younger players on weaker teams don't get national recognition until they've proven their worth in multiple seasons.
 
She’s an all-P12 talent. She’s not a top All-America candidate. Really don’t understand why we all keep debating this with you. Either she’ll be named one or she won’t.

If Dokey keeps it up.... imma have to start on a Skylar Curran for honorable mention AA team rant.. :D:p:eek::rolleyes:;):)😃😏
 
If Dokey keeps it up.... imma have to start on a Skylar Curran for honorable mention AA team rant.. :D:p:eek::rolleyes:;):)😃😏
I am just saying she had a great season and deserves recognition. Too often players on teams that aren’t in the upper echelon are ignored. It is the nature of the game. We love winners. It is easy sometimes to be a great player when surrounded by a great supporting cast, it is quite another to carry a lesser team on your shoulders.
 
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Boston, Bueckers, Evans, Hillmon, Mack, McDonald, Owusu, would be my picks for AA’s, Bell, Clark, Collier, Cunane, Dungee, Hayes, Howard, Onyenwere, Osborne, and N’Dea Jones would also be in the mix, much like NPOY a lot of awards are up for grabs this year.
 
I am so looking forward to the NCAA Tournament. There are some outstanding players that will surprise and be new additions to the "AA" list.
 
Nah.. I can't cosign that. Hayes at Middle TN State is leading the the nation in scoring and Bell at FGCU is 5th. As good as that sounds I'm passing on both for AA because both players had an opportunity to play at P5 school (Ohio State and TN) and chose to go to a lower level of competition.
I don't agree. The cultish idolatry of the power 5 has truly gotten out of control when it becomes the basis for excluding players from consideration. I'm not down with that.
 
I am so looking forward to the NCAA Tournament. There are some outstanding players that will surprise and be new additions to the "AA" list.

Aren't the All-American's chosen before the tournament? Just like the other National awards?
 
11 Naismith Semi-Finalists

Boston
Bueckers
Clark
Collier
Cunane
Evans
Hillmon
Howard
McDonald
Onyenwere
NaLyssa Smith

Feel like Dungee and Owusu are the biggest omissions.

 
11 Naismith Semi-Finalists

Boston
Bueckers
Clark
Collier
Cunane
Evans
Hillmon
Howard
McDonald
Onyenwere
NaLyssa Smith

Feel like Dungee and Owusu are the biggest omissions.

Not a bad list, but I would replace Smith or Howard with Owusu for sure.
 
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Not a bad list, but I would replace Smith or Howard with Owusu for sure.
I’m in support of Owusu’s inclusion, but I’m not sure about in replacement of Smith. NaLyssa Smith has been REALLY good for Baylor this year. 18ppg and 9 boards on 54% shooting with non-negligible block, steal, and assist numbers.

I do acknowledge there have been so many outstanding performances this year. It will be hard to whittle down to ten.
 
I am just saying she had a great season and deserves recognition. Too often players on teams that aren’t in the upper echelon are ignored. It is the nature of the game. We love winners. It is easy sometimes to be a great player when surrounded by a great supporting cast, it is quite another to carry a lesser team on your shoulders.
I think the idea here is that, right or wrong, if a player is truly that good, she will bring her team into national discussion. That doesn’t mean the team needs to be a title contender (Kentucky isn’t, but Howard’s presence has put them under a small spotlight of sorts).

In Hollingshed’s case, she plays for a 10-9 team that is not wholly likely to make the tournament barring a few PAC-12 tourney wins. She is a good player who is deserving of her league recognition, but AAs are for the best players in the country who elevate their teams to a level of competition.
 
11 Naismith Semi-Finalists

Boston
Bueckers
Clark
Collier
Cunane
Evans
Hillmon
Howard
McDonald
Onyenwere
NaLyssa Smith

Feel like Dungee and Owusu are the biggest omissions.

I'd hand down put Owusu on here over McDonald/Onyenwere. Dungee is more borderline since she doesn't do much besides score but she's darn good at that.

Looking at numbers you have:

Owusu-18.9 points, 5.9 rebounds, 6.0 assists, 2.27 A/TO, 1.3 steals, 49% FG, 29% 3 (has only hit 9 all season), 78% FT. Preseason team was #11/12, currently is #8

Dungee-22.6 points, 4.0 rebounds, 1.5 assists, 0.6 A/TO, 1.5 steals, 43% FG, 39% 3pt, 80% FT. Preseason team was #14, currently is #13.

McDonald-19.4 points, 5.0 rebounds, 4.4 assists, 1.4 A/TO, 2.7 steals, 39.5% FG, 30.4% 3pt, 79% FT. Team was preseason #7, currently is #11.

Onyenwere-18.2 points, 8.0 rebounds, 2.6 assists, 0.9 A/TO, 1.0 steals, 41.8% FG, 40.4% 3pt, 79% FT. Team was preseason #9/10, currently is #9.


Owusu has spearheaded the offense for the top scoring team in the nation and has been by far the most efficient of the 3 while matching the others statistically across the board. Her team is also outperforming expectations, and Maryland has accomplished this while playing without Angel Reese most of the season. I think she should be a strong candidate for 1st Team AA honors along with players like Evans, Clark, Bueckers, Howard and Hillmon.

It's a wash among the other 3 IMO. McDonald has name recognition and plays the best defense so I'd probably choose her over the other 2, but she's just not an efficient guard and doesn't have strong decision making skills.
 
Watched most of the above player this past year; not sold on McDonald or Collier. All other picks seem legit.
 
I've watched a lot of Maryland and Awusu is so good. She is smart and does exactly what her team needs.

I would take her over Ari McDonald all day and twice on Sunday.
Yes! Owusu is one of the best players in America, imo. I don't think McDonald compares to her at all. I think it is wrong for Owusu to be left off the list. Well, Napheesa was left off one year also.
 
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I think the idea here is that, right or wrong, if a player is truly that good, she will bring her team into national discussion. That doesn’t mean the team needs to be a title contender (Kentucky isn’t, but Howard’s presence has put them under a small spotlight of sorts).

In Hollingshed’s case, she plays for a 10-9 team that is not wholly likely to make the tournament barring a few PAC-12 tourney wins. She is a good player who is deserving of her league recognition, but AAs are for the best players in the country who elevate their teams to a level of competition.
I never said she should be first team, just mentioned. But I strongly disagree that it should be limited to teams in contention for top finishes. That is lazy. Besides 10-9 in PAC 12 is great. If this were the Big East, Colorado would be 15-4. And scaring the bleep out of UConn, just as 1.4 seconds and a ridiculous Hail Mary are the only reasons why Colorado isn’t three and one against Stanford these past two years.
 

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