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I guess Marquette can use their removal from the top 25 as motivation for Tuesday's game. Not sure it will actually lead to anything tangible but gives them something to rally around
 
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Number 8 is as good as you can expect with their early losses. Still the top seed with 3 losses and two teams could go down tonight that would go a long way towards moving up a couple more spots. Dominate ND regardless of their rank and they move up much faster. Still have a couple up there that are going to lose a couple more games and if Iowa was the 1 and UConn was the 2 I would think that is as good as it could get for the Huskies.
 
The real chance to move up will come with the Pac 12 teams in the top 8 playing each other. UCLA, Stanford, and Colorado all have a differeing number of games against each other should knock two of them out of the top 8 before the dust settles. Two big games tonight also with UCLA vs Utah and Kansas St. vs Baylor tonight.
 
MSGRET said:
No because the committee uses the NET along with other material and I believe that UConn is currently #3 in the NET
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Yes and no. The net probably decides, but the weakest #2 is in with the strongest #1, and the Strongest #2 is in with the weakest #1. After that, I don't know.
 
bbsamjj said:
while the number is what people pay attention to, there are quite a few instances where teams are mere votes apart:

#3 CO has just 10pts more than #4 KSU
#7 NC St has just 11pts more than #8 UConn
#12 OSU has just 13pts more than #13 Baylor

and...

Just 16 total pts separate #15 ND (331 pts), #16 Utah, #17 Gonzaga, #18 Louisville (315pts)
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The Kansas St non conference schedule is incredibly weak.
 
ctkaiser said:
The Kansas St non conference schedule is incredibly weak.
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Ridiculous that they are ranked ahead of Iowa, which is second in Massey’s SOS ( K State is 34). I sometimes wonder just how much the AP voters really know about basketball and how many games they actually watch.
 
EricLA said:
This is stupid (NOT you - the people who do the rankings and talk about "wins against top 25 teams").

UCONN lost to NC State when State was unranked. That counts as a loss against an unranked opponent, even tho NC State is #7 at the moment. Texas, with the loss of their starting PG, is not the same team. But we beat them when they were #10 and they rose to 3 or 4 or so. UCLA seems to be percolating in the top 3-4 for most of the season.

Plus, with the exception of the NC State game where most of our players were there, the first half of the season was playing "catch up" as one player after another went down an the team had to reinvent itself.

Honestly, the way we are playing now, I'd love a matchup against any of those teams we lost to. Our starters have been phenomenal, and our core 2 bench players have been getting more and more comfortable.

We will know more about our team after this week especially with the ND game, and even more after we face SC.

Anyway my point is - we beat Marquette once when they were #18. But we play them again and it's against an unranked team. IMHO it should be looked at season ending. Especially the NC State game but it holds for Marquette, Creighton, and anyone else in the BE should they get ranked...
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#11 UConn lost to #10 Texas 68-80.
 
Well down goes #2 UCLA. 2 impressive wins here lately for Utah. UCLA has 2 more games surprisingly before the next poll comes out. (Weird to have a Friday and Sunday game!) But anyhow, those two are very winnable and hard to see them dropping too far assuming they don’t slip up Friday or Sunday.
 
FanInNC said:
Well down goes #2 UCLA. 2 impressive wins here lately for Utah. UCLA has 2 more games surprisingly before the next poll comes out. (Weird to have a Friday and Sunday game!) But anyhow, those two are very winnable and hard to see them dropping too far assuming they don’t slip up Friday or Sunday.
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That was good game. The difference in the level of play between the Power Conferences and the Big East is stark. The Power conferences are just some much better, it’s really undeniable .
 
So many tough games for so many teams. As of last Monday, there were seven teams with just one loss in the top 25 (and undefeated SC). Five of the seven suffered losses last week, and UCLA lost tonight. And Baylor is leading Kansas State at the start of the second half.
 
Boreifs said:
Ridiculous that they are ranked ahead of Iowa, which is second in Massey’s SOS ( K State is 34). I sometimes wonder just how much the AP voters really know about basketball and how many games they actually watch.
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Iowa's non conference schedule was not exactly full of the best of the best.

But either way, K. State has one loss to Iowa's two. They are 1-1 against Iowa. They also have wins against Texas and UNC. Sure #4 might be too high (especially now that they don't have Lee), but it's not like it's so absurd.
 
bbsamjj said:
Iowa's non conference schedule was not exactly full of the best of the best.

But either way, K. State has one loss to Iowa's two. They are 1-1 against Iowa. They also have wins against Texas and UNC. Sure #4 might be too high (especially now that they don't have Lee), but it's not like it's so absurd.
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Well, K-State was headed for loss #2, but Baylor managed only 16 points in the entire second half.
 
bbsamjj said:
Iowa's non conference schedule was not exactly full of the best of the best.

But either way, K. State has one loss to Iowa's two. They are 1-1 against Iowa. They also have wins against Texas and UNC. Sure #4 might be too high (especially now that they don't have Lee), but it's not like it's so absurd.
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You did read my post? SOS to date is number two, behind only UConn.
 
ctkaiser said:
The Kansas St non conference schedule is incredibly weak.
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Maybe not the greatest but far from the worst. They played Iowa twice; how many other teams played two OOC games against top 10 teams? And their win at Iowa was by far the best true road nonconference win by any team in the country.
 
FanInNC said:
Well down goes #2 UCLA. 2 impressive wins here lately for Utah. UCLA has 2 more games surprisingly before the next poll comes out. (Weird to have a Friday and Sunday game!) But anyhow, those two are very winnable and hard to see them dropping too far assuming they don’t slip up Friday or Sunday.
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Friday and Sunday games have been the norm in the Pac-12 for the past umpteen years. Just because it's not what happens in your neck of the woods doesn't make it “weird.”
 
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FanInNC said:
Well down goes #2 UCLA. 2 impressive wins here lately for Utah. UCLA has 2 more games surprisingly before the next poll comes out. (Weird to have a Friday and Sunday game!) But anyhow, those two are very winnable and hard to see them dropping too far assuming they don’t slip up Friday or Sunday.
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PAC-12 women's basketball changed from mostly Thur/Sat schedule to a Fri/Sun schedule the 2012-2013 season. At ESPN's request, some of the games ESPN wants to televise are moved to Mondays. The last regular season weekend of games before the conference tournament is usually Thur/Sat.
 
Plebe said:
Friday and Sunday games have been the norm in the Pac-12 for the past umpteen years. Just because it's not what happens in your neck of the woods doesn't make it “weird.”
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Thanks for the info. Glad it’s not the norm in my neck of the woods. That doesn’t seem to be ideal IMO.
 
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