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DefenseBB said:
My inside source says no as they had been performing well for the last 2 years and have a good recruiting class coming in next year. I am of the sentiment, he's been there a while and has not really achieved anything but each school has different "success" definitions.
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Yeah, I was surprised Schneider signed two Top 20 recruits from Oklahoma and Kansas City over schools like OU, Texas, South Carolina, Baylor, etc. for the class of 2025. Made me think that their NIL support might have spilled over a bit from their men's hoops which is huge.

Kansas had made the NCAA tourney 2 out of the last 3 seasons, but this season's 16-14 record is a big step backwards, IMO.
 
cancontent said:
While I'm happy she's thrived regardless, I agree. Not a fan of seeing comments on social media hoping that she transfers, but I understand why they do.
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I live in Madison and go to a fair amount of games and to be honest, I hope she does transfer. The Wisconsin program isn't going anywhere and will not contend for an NCAA tournament spot next season. The talent around her is below average at best and she gets very little help. UW has done a terrible job of keeping top recruits in the state. Lexi Donarski, KK Arnold, Ali Ziebell, Teagan Mallegni, Taylor Stremlow, Leailani Kapinus, and Grace Grocholski are currently playing for other teams. Next year the best players in the state are going to Minnesota, Michigan State and Maryland. If you go back further, you have players like Arike Ogunbowale and Misty Bass that chose to hit the road and play for other programs. I like Mosely and I was hoping she would succeed but I think it's time for a change.
 
HuskyFan1125 said:
Auburn is open!!

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Here's the ESPN article on the dismissal. Didn't remember that Auburn's current AD had been with Harris at Mississippi State, so this has got to be a double disappointment.

When coaches depart, you can almost guarantee some team members will hit the portal. Two names jump out at me:

- Taliah Scott had been a break-out frosh at Arkansas and transferred to Auburn to play for Harris. She only got to play three games for the Tigers. The 5'9" combo guard could very well make it three schools in three years....but she could have three years of elibiility.

The other interesting player is Yuting Deng, a 6'0" freshman from Hunan Province in China, who averaged just under 12 per game in 12 games for the Tigers. Will be interesting if she decides/advised to look for another U.S. school to matriculate at.

www.espn.com

Auburn fires head coach Johnnie Harris after four seasons

Auburn fired women's basketball coach Johnnie Harris on Thursday after posting a 58-63 record in four seasons.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
 
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Dillon77 said:
Here's the ESPN article on the dismissal. Didn't remember that Auburn's current AD had been with Harris at Mississippi State, so this has got to me a double disappointment.
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I suspect there isn't disappointment or love lost. Cohen was AD when Vic left for TX and Harris was his top assistant. She wanted the MSU job and Vic wanted her to get it. There was some bad blood between Cohen and Vic and I'd say it possibly played a factor in her not getting hired and the job went to McCray-Penson, who took a team ranked 6 in the preseason with many key players back and missed the tournament. To be fair it was the 20-21 COVID season, there was clearly a lot of internal issues, and I know her McCray's health wasn't the best. She "resigned" before the season started the following year due to health reasons but it was a very muted, brief explanation and her name never came up again at MSU. Sadly she lost her battle with cancer and while I know health was a factor I'm sure it wasn't the only thing and possibly not even the biggest.

Harris spent one year with Vic at TX before migrating to Auburn, only for Cohen to get hired in 2022. I suspected then she would have to really step things up or she would not last and after a small step forward last year, this season things went poorly so no shock she wasn't retained. I have no idea if Harris would have performed any better than McCray at MSU. It's possible it would have been the same or even worse but I loathe Cohen and his failures as MSU AD. The Auburn job could go to Purcell, who is an alum along with his wife who is Joe Ciampi's daughter who was the long time coach. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if that happened.
 
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Dillon77 said:
Here's the ESPN article on the dismissal. Didn't remember that Auburn's current AD had been with Harris at Mississippi State, so this has got to be a double disappointment.

When coaches depart, you can almost guarantee some team members will hit the portal. Two names jump out at me:

- Taliah Scott had been a break-out frosh at Arkansas and transferred to Auburn to play for Harris. She only got to play three games for the Tigers. The 5'9" combo guard could very well make it three schools in three years....but she could have three years of elibiility.

The other interesting player is Yuting Deng, a 6'0" freshman from Hunan Province in China, who averaged just under 12 per game in 12 games for the Tigers. Will be interesting if she decides/advised to look for another U.S. school to matriculate at.

www.espn.com

Auburn fires head coach Johnnie Harris after four seasons

Auburn fired women's basketball coach Johnnie Harris on Thursday after posting a 58-63 record in four seasons.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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This saddens me. Johnnie Harris is one of the classiest people in the SEC or any other league. I won't argue that the results on the court were entirely satisfactory, but she seems to be plagued with bad luck when it comes to injuries. I'm sure she has a coaching future if she wants it, whether that be as a head coach or as an assistant. I hope so, anyway.
 
In terms of P4 we’ve got
  • Mizzou
  • Auburn
  • Houston

That’s it so far right?
 
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Hiring someone with no collegiate head coaching experience is a huge risk. While I like Johnnie Harris just fine, I think Auburn could have made a better hire.

Conversely, Georgia hired the head coach from Central Florida and she isn't doing all that much better.

Miss. State seems to be progressing nicely with Purcell who I don't believe had any previous head coaching experience.
 
Arkansas would have been pretty good this season had they not lost so many transfers the last couple of years.
 
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southie said:
Arkansas would have been pretty good this season had they not lost so many transfers the last couple of years.
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There's a reason why they had so many transfers, and "the reason" is still coaching there.
 
YoDore said:
This saddens me. Johnnie Harris is one of the classiest people in the SEC or any other league. I won't argue that the results on the court were entirely satisfactory, but she seems to be plagued with bad luck when it comes to injuries. I'm sure she has a coaching future if she wants it, whether that be as a head coach or as an assistant. I hope so, anyway.
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Losing Scott was just a disaster. How do you make up a projected 20+ per game. Not a lot of patience there, particularly given she got Auburn into the NCAA;'s the year before that. So much for grace periods. Well, as noted, the top remaining players might bolt for other areas, if they don't move fast for the new coach to get to know the players.

BTW, I think Harris will do just fine. Will probably have to do an assistant gig next, but she's young enough to get a second shot.
 
southie said:
Miss. State seems to be progressing nicely with Purcell who I don't believe had any previous head coaching experience.
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Mississippi State is at or below 0.500 in the conference for the second straight season. Progression WHERE? Nine SEC wins his first season, eight last season, seven this season.

He may get the Auburn job, but my goodness--failing upwards.

Coach Yo > him
 
southie said:
Hiring someone with no collegiate head coaching experience is a huge risk. While I like Johnnie Harris just fine, I think Auburn could have made a better hire.

Conversely, Georgia hired the head coach from Central Florida and she isn't doing all that much better.

Miss. State seems to be progressing nicely with Purcell who I don't believe had any previous head coaching experience.
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Considering Auburn isn’t exactly a top flight destination job she was possibly the best overall candidate.

Purcell hadn’t been a head coach until MSU and has been fine. Vic hadn’t been one either until he came to MSU and I think he turned out okay :).
 
YoDore said:
This saddens me. Johnnie Harris is one of the classiest people in the SEC or any other league. I won't argue that the results on the court were entirely satisfactory, but she seems to be plagued with bad luck when it comes to injuries. I'm sure she has a coaching future if she wants it, whether that be as a head coach or as an assistant. I hope so, anyway.
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She will land on her feet somewhere I’m sure. I wanted her to get the MSU job but not sure things would have turned out any better for us.

Now I watch to see if Purcell goes to Auburn.
 
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And P4 changes that could still happen?
  • ACC: UVa, SMU
  • SEC: Arkansas
  • BiG: NWern, Wisconsin, PennSt, Rutgers?
  • B12: ASU, TxT, UCF, BYU, Ariz?
 
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MSSportsGuy said:
Considering Auburn isn’t exactly a top flight destination job she was possibly the best overall candidate.

Purcell hadn’t been a head coach until MSU and has been fine. Vic hadn’t been one either until he came to MSU and I think he turned out okay :).
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Actually, Vic had been the head coach at Sam Houston State for 7 years or so



VIC SCHAEFER'S COACHING EXPERIENCE

YEARSSCHOOLPOSITION
2020-presentTexasHead Coach
2011-20Mississippi StateHead Coach
2003-11Texas A&MAssociate Head Coach
1997-03ArkansasAssociate Head Coach
1990-97Sam Houston StateHead Coach
1989-90Milby H.S. [Houston]Assistant Boys Coach
1987-89Sam Houston StateAssistant Men's Coach
1985-87Milby H.S. [Houston]Assistant Boys Coach
 
Vowelguy said:
And P4 changes that could still happen?
  • ACC: UVa, SMU
  • SEC: Arkansas
  • BiG: NWern, Wisconsin, PennSt, Rutgers?
  • B12: ASU, TxT, UCF, BYU, Ariz?
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Why is Arkansas on this list?
 
WBBTakeover said:
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Mississippi State is at or below 0.500 in the conference for the second straight season. Progression WHERE? Nine SEC wins his first season, eight last season, seven this season.

He may get the Auburn job, but my goodness--failing upwards.

Coach Yo > him
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Well, according to the analysts on SEC Network, this is the first season that Charlie Creme had Miss. State safely in the NCAA tournament at the end of the regular season. Last couple of years they were on the bubble. And, Purcell got his first win ever in the SEC tourney yesterday. That seems like progress to me.
 
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WBBTakeover said:
There's a reason why they had so many transfers, and "the reason" is still coaching there.
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That's just not it. Not saying that Neighbors is blameless (he definitely isn't), but the players who left did so for a variety of reasons. Most didn't hate playing for Neighbors - one did. Most of them like him.

Scott left because of locker room issues. Didn't like the fact that the upper classmen - especially Spencer, who was a very polarizing figure in the locker room -- treated her. A bit immature, a bit prima donna/me first, but didn't need to stand for some of the jealous, mean girl treatment she got.

Poffenbarger left for a few reasons, I think. She wanted to be nearer home, she didn't like getting yelled at consistently by her position coach, and she didn't want to play another year with Spencer. It wasn't just Scott who didn't like her.

Spencer left for money, plain and simple. She said so.

Dauda left because she didn't want to be the only good player left on the roster, and for better money (anything, literally, was better than what Arkansas was able to offer players last year). She barely gets scrub minutes at SC, which is really unfortunate.

Wolfenbarger - that's a different story. Lots of blame to go around here. She (and her family) did have beef with Neighbors, who they thought wasn't developing her to be a guard well enough. She also had some outside basketball things going on that interfered with her focus. A change of scene was probably what she needed. Though ... playing for Mulkey doesn't seem to have really upped her game all that much. At least she has accepted that she's better suited to play closer to the basket, which she would never have done at Arkansas.

Neighbors is responsible for the culture in the program, and he put too much faith in his seniors to keep things under control, imo. It blew up last year. And the crap recruiting the past two years just left the squad a shell of an SEC team.

Neighbors hasn't had any money to recruit since Scott's class signed. Which is why this year you had foreign kids and JUCOs mostly, and next year is two foreign kids and one pretty decent US player - and why he missed out on the top US kids he was going after (esp Snead). He claims that the Rev Share plan will allow them to be "uber aggressive" in the portal this offseason. We'll see.
 
faninwisc said:
I live in Madison and go to a fair amount of games and to be honest, I hope she does transfer. The Wisconsin program isn't going anywhere and will not contend for an NCAA tournament spot next season. The talent around her is below average at best and she gets very little help. UW has done a terrible job of keeping top recruits in the state. Lexi Donarski, KK Arnold, Ali Ziebell, Teagan Mallegni, Taylor Stremlow, Leailani Kapinus, and Grace Grocholski are currently playing for other teams. Next year the best players in the state are going to Minnesota, Michigan State and Maryland. If you go back further, you have players like Arike Ogunbowale and Misty Bass that chose to hit the road and play for other programs. I like Mosely and I was hoping she would succeed but I think it's time for a change.
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I hear you but it sucks that it's happening. She's got big decisions to make during the off-season. I'll be a fan regardless where she ends up.
 
southie said:
Actually, Vic had been the head coach at Sam Houston State for 7 years or so



VIC SCHAEFER'S COACHING EXPERIENCE

YEARSSCHOOLPOSITION
2020-presentTexasHead Coach
2011-20Mississippi StateHead Coach
2003-11Texas A&MAssociate Head Coach
1997-03ArkansasAssociate Head Coach
1990-97Sam Houston StateHead Coach
1989-90Milby H.S. [Houston]Assistant Boys Coach
1987-89Sam Houston StateAssistant Men's Coach
1985-87Milby H.S. [Houston]Assistant Boys Coach
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I didn’t realize that! My mistake.

Thank you for the information.
 
southie said:
Well, according to the analysts on SEC Network, this is the first season that Charlie Creme had Miss. State safely in the NCAA tournament at the end of the regular season. Last couple of years they were on the bubble. And, Purcell got his first win ever in the SEC tourney yesterday. That seems like progress to me.
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First, Creme does not determine who makes the NCAA Tournament. I don't care what that man says.

Second, finishing in the bottom half of the conference in your third season is not an achievement--especially when the number of conference wins keeps going in the opposite direction. This man has 24 SEC regular season wins in THREE seasons. Coach Yo, who many here believe can't coach in the SEC and is supposedly on the hot seat, has 22 SEC regular season wins the last TWO seasons.

Third, with how many transfers this man brings in year in and year out, I would certainly hope that they'd be able to compete with at least the bottom of the SEC.
 
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