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2025 WCBB Coaches Hot Seat edition (merged)

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Perhaps a dumb question: The table legend indicates that "school buyout" is the amount a school would owe coach if it fired coach without cause. Is that the same thing as what another school would have to pay to hire the coach away?

(Extra dumbness points for asking this in a thread about coaches who are on the hot seat and therefore extremely unlikely to be poached...)
 
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cancontent said:
Is this the coach from Washington? And why is this not coming from @nwhoopfan ???
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Didn't see it. Yeah, I don't think her seat is officially hot. She's not struggling like the other coaches being listed. But I'm still disappointed with the trajectory of the program. Seems like she's already plateaued at producing WNIT teams who are a bit south of the middle of the pack in conference. I expect more for UW. At least this year the offense is better, but it's come with a corresponding down trend in defense.
 
Dillon77 said:
Thanks for doing this, as per usual. In mondo agreement on most of these, but will add a comment here or there:

- Wake Forest: Megan Gabbia had a good first year, but then Jewell Spears took her act to Knoxville. Gabbia has basically tried to make do with the remaining supporting cast and her recruits sometimes show promise and most of the time, don't. You can tell she knows what she's doing but the talent level simply isn't there to compete. I still think she'll get another year in Winston-Salem. (Wake moved from the Triad a long time ago! ;))

- Northwestern: We've been discussing Joe McKeown's imminent departure for so long I remember thinking Niele Ivey or Megan Duffy could be possible successors! Maybe Northwestern has a strong sense of loyalty to Joe (he seems like a good guy) and/or a long contract, but his performance since Veronica Burton has left is making the Wildcats irrelevant.

- Purdue: Katie Gearlds is a former Purdue player who was expected to step in and make things happen. But I've been underwhelmed by her performance. ND has played them the last two years and mid-majors have played smarter and better. While one or two recruits have done ok, another -- Mary Alice Stevenson -- left for Stanford. I don't think they'll chop her yet: the youngest and best of the Reynolds sisters is enrolling next year. The other two Reynolds girls have not performed as Gearlds probably hoped. They'll have to because all of the Purdue upperclassmen are gone after this year.

- Penn State: As noted in another post, the PSU athletic department and Board of whomever approved this "historic extension" should be examined/investigated for misuse of state funds. The best way to use state funds would've been to finance her exit package. Well, this will keep them mediocre for a long time.

- Rutgers: This was an ill-conceived match and hire from the get go. Kiyomi Miller will probably bolt after this year and Destiny Adams is out of eligibility, so there will be an empty locker room of top-rate talent -- just like she found it. And that's the issue: NJ has too many good hoopsters and she hasn't found any to come to the banks of the Raritan River.
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I see you and Triad already pointed out Wake does not exist in Raleigh. Not even the same county.

But, Raleigh isn’t in the triad. In fact wake moved TO the triad.

Raleigh is part of the triangle. Raleigh, Durham and chapel hill make up the triangle. (Homes of State, Duke and that other school).

The triad is made up of Winston Salem, Greensboro and High Point. Home of the aforementioned Deacs, unc G and of course high point university.

To make matters more confusing, Raleigh is in wake county. Wake forest is a town in wake county - but wake forest university is in Forsyth county - previously they were in wake county, thus the name, but moved away a long long time ago and didn’t change names.

So our friend triadbluedevil must live in the triad while rooting for a school located in the triangle. Clear as mud?
 
FanInNC said:
I see you and Triad already pointed out Wake does not exist in Raleigh. Not even the same county.

But, Raleigh isn’t in the triad. In fact wake moved TO the triad.

Raleigh is part of the triangle. Raleigh, Durham and chapel hill make up the triangle. (Homes of State, Duke and that other school).

The triad is made up of Winston Salem, Greensboro and High Point. Home of the aforementioned Deacs, unc G and of course high point university.

To make matters more confusing, Raleigh is in wake county. Wake forest is a town in wake county - but wake forest university is in Forsyth county - previously they were in wake county, thus the name, but moved away a long long time ago and didn’t change names.

So our friend triadbluedevil must live in the triad while rooting for a school located in the triangle. Clear as mud?
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Just when I thought I had this straight, you make these points. Dang it, back to my notes and a remedial US geography class.
 
FanInNC said:
I see you and Triad already pointed out Wake does not exist in Raleigh. Not even the same county.

But, Raleigh isn’t in the triad. In fact wake moved TO the triad.

Raleigh is part of the triangle. Raleigh, Durham and chapel hill make up the triangle. (Homes of State, Duke and that other school).

The triad is made up of Winston Salem, Greensboro and High Point. Home of the aforementioned Deacs, unc G and of course high point university.

To make matters more confusing, Raleigh is in wake county. Wake forest is a town in wake county - but wake forest university is in Forsyth county - previously they were in wake county, thus the name, but moved away a long long time ago and didn’t change names.

So our friend triadbluedevil must live in the triad while rooting for a school located in the triangle. Clear as mud?
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My medium-term memory is getting hazy since my younger son graduated from Wake almost 10 years ago.
(I did know the campus was uprooted and moved to the triad.

I do know this: ND has got to fly to either the Triad or The Triangle to play up to permutations of various ACC opponents and then back to the Triad for the ACC Championships. And you can drive to all of them by using Rte. 40. (I think that's right....;))
 
Flying into the triangle is just as confusing. Always ruffles my feathers to hear people claim they were in “Raleigh Durham” over the weekend. Raleigh and Durham are 2 separate cities - 20ish miles apart! Yet because the airport is “RDU” the two get lumped together and people make the mistake of claiming to be in two separate cities at the same time.

Greensboro also has an airport - but I can’t lay claim to ever having flown into or out of Greensboro (the triad). Though Jim Boeheim has made it clear he has no love for Greensboro or the Triad.
 
FanInNC said:
Flying into the triangle is just as confusing. Always ruffles my feathers to hear people claim they were in “Raleigh Durham” over the weekend. Raleigh and Durham are 2 separate cities - 20ish miles apart! Yet because the airport is “RDU” the two get lumped together and people make the mistake of claiming to be in two separate cities at the same time.

Greensboro also has an airport - but I can’t lay claim to ever having flown into or out of Greensboro (the triad). Though Jim Boeheim has made it clear he has no love for Greensboro or the Triad.
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I've flown into Greensboro a few times to head west to Winston-Salem. My brother's daughters were avid swimmers and major meets are hosted in a Greensboro facility, so he's gone there...a lot.
 
FanInNC said:
Flying into the triangle is just as confusing. Always ruffles my feathers to hear people claim they were in “Raleigh Durham” over the weekend. Raleigh and Durham are 2 separate cities - 20ish miles apart! Yet because the airport is “RDU” the two get lumped together and people make the mistake of claiming to be in two separate cities at the same time.

Greensboro also has an airport - but I can’t lay claim to ever having flown into or out of Greensboro (the triad). Though Jim Boeheim has made it clear he has no love for Greensboro or the Triad.
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Similar to Dallas-Ft Worth. They’re also 20 or so miles apart and served by DFW.
 
FanInNC said:
Flying into the triangle is just as confusing. Always ruffles my feathers to hear people claim they were in “Raleigh Durham” over the weekend. Raleigh and Durham are 2 separate cities - 20ish miles apart! Yet because the airport is “RDU” the two get lumped together and people make the mistake of claiming to be in two separate cities at the same time.

Greensboro also has an airport - but I can’t lay claim to ever having flown into or out of Greensboro (the triad). Though Jim Boeheim has made it clear he has no love for Greensboro or the Triad.
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And to add to it...Winston-Salem, the home of Wake Forest, is one city with two names joined together when the towns of Winston and Salem merged a long, long time ago.
 
Don't forget about Fuquay-Varina...that's always a fun one to hear the northern transplants try and pronounce.
 
FanInNC said:
Don't forget about Fuquay-Varina...that's always a fun one to hear the northern transplants try and pronounce.
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How far north are we talking? ;).

At first glance, my brain has a couple interprations in mind. This reminds me of the confusion tourists have saying Queen's Quay when in Toronto. :D
 
If BC were smart, they'd be using backchannels to talk with Carly Thibault-Dubonis, to go from one New England Catholic to another.
 
What do folks think about Kelly Rae Finley's job security at UF? She' looking 3 straight 5-11 seasons in the SEC dead in the eyes, and there are only 6 underclass players on her roster this season.
 
dws3665 said:
What do folks think about Kelly Rae Finley's job security at UF? She' looking 3 straight 5-11 seasons in the SEC dead in the eyes, and there are only 6 underclass players on her roster this season.
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To me, it will depend when her contract expires as she is still living off the NCAA bid she earned 4 years ago, which for Florida may be enough…it shouldn’t be but as we’ve seen with so many schools, they have completely different priorities.
 
dws3665 said:
What do folks think about Kelly Rae Finley's job security at UF? She' looking 3 straight 5-11 seasons in the SEC dead in the eyes, and there are only 6 underclass players on her roster this season.
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She should be on tenuous ground given the success of Todd Golden (men's basketball coach) and Billy Napier's rise from the football "dead", but we'll see. I think she gets one more season to try to turn it around. It's not like women's team sports can't do well there (see the softball and volleyball teams, for example).
 
dws3665 said:
What do folks think about Kelly Rae Finley's job security at UF? She' looking 3 straight 5-11 seasons in the SEC dead in the eyes, and there are only 6 underclass players on her roster this season.
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I think Coach is safe for a few more years. She has the players support, which is always a plus especially when the season is tough. Her 2026 potential target list of talented players look real, just a matter of reeling those potential players, especially the right ones, in but I think she should be good for a few years.
 
dws3665 said:
What do folks think about Kelly Rae Finley's job security at UF? She' looking 3 straight 5-11 seasons in the SEC dead in the eyes, and there are only 6 underclass players on her roster this season.
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She's pregnant and due in April. So no way you can fire her before the end of next season, in good conscience
 
Firing season is almost upon us.

Some teams won’t even make their conference tourneys which 3/2 will be their last game .
 
LETTERL said:
And to add to it...Winston-Salem, the home of Wake Forest, is one city with two names joined together when the towns of Winston and Salem merged a long, long time ago.
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And isn't Wake Forest (the city) over in the RTD?
I'm easily confused...:rolleyes:
 
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