2025 Transfer Portal

[bballnut90]

I don't know if others will feel the same, but she just jumped to near the top of the list of best players in the portal in my mind.

Same. She might not be the biggest name but I feel like she could be the missing piece for a title contender that puts them over the edge.

 

[azfan]

Don’t know IU, but sometimes coaches have a bad recruiting year — they get the wrong players or players who are a bad mix. Weren’t Ekmark, Sadie Edward’s, and AEH all in the same UConn class?. And about 5-10 years ago CViv had to clean house because she had a bunch of players who thought they ran the program. It happens.

As for IU, are these good players? The ones I’m seeing averaged 1-2 points. It could be Moren realizing she needs a bit of a roster overhaul

Sooooooo happy she came back to Tempe and she was a force for the Sun Devils.

 

[Bjbod]

Sorry, but I won't be disappointed if she doesn't meet expectations.

 

[JstVisiting]

Sorry, but I won't be disappointed if she doesn't meet expectations.

If OU is paying that, she needs multiple Final Fours for them to break even.

 

[Zarathustra]

Read the thread -- I was already corrected for this and acknowledged it. This is how we end up on endless swerves.

Sorry, my apologies.... I will "cease and desist". Z

 

[southie]

Sorry, but I won't be disappointed if she doesn't meet expectations.

Is that the definition of a "hater" ? I'm sure you have some very valid reasons (which can be substantiated) for why you feel that way . . .

 

[TheFarmFan]

Is that the definition of a "hater" ? I'm sure you have some very valid reasons (which can be substantiated) for why you feel that way . . .

Probably because they, like I, fell for WCBB because it was amateurs representing their universities for four years of college, not to watch an unregulated professional league full of 17-year-old mercenaries demanding $1.5m pay to play for one year, only to jump ship for a higher bidder the year after.

Sooner or later, the Chavez's of the world are going to kill the golden goose. I honestly feel so much more good will towards the W now than I do towards WCBB, which is a pretty stunning reversal from where I was 3 or 4 seasons ago.

 

[Dillon77]

Probably because they, like I, fell for WCBB because it was amateurs representing their universities for four years of college, not to watch an unregulated professional league full of 17-year-old mercenaries demanding $1.5m pay to play for one year, only to jump ship for a higher bidder the year after.

Sooner or later, the Chavez's of the world are going to kill the golden goose. I honestly feel so much more good will towards the W now than I do towards WCBB, which is a pretty stunning reversal from where I was 3 or 4 seasons ago.

I noticed a poster said he/she was looking for something to fill the doldrums of the summer on the BY.

Like you, I noticed that my rooting interest in the W has grown more and more in relation to the bidding wars of off-season in the NCAA's.

Although there will be a blow up/resettling of many players after this season, once the CBA is settled, we'll have a good idea of who plays for whom from one season to next.

BTW, enjoy your initial season in the Bay Area as an initial ticket holder for The Valkyries!

 

[Big Fan]

Penn State women’s basketball players Ariana Williams and Gabby Elliott have entered the transfer portal. They became the sixth and seventh Lady Lions reported to enter the portal after the 2024-25 season. Their coaching situation is a dumpster fire. But 7 players transferring - yikes. They are going to lucky to field a team next year.

 

[FanInNC]

I have a question that maybe is best suited for here …

Does anyone have any idea what the NIL budgets are for say the top 10-20 programs? Rev share starts this coming year, any word on how schools like Tennessee, UConn, LSU, Texas, Notre Dame etc will allocate those dollars? Any idea what those NIL figures were like this past year for top flight programs?

 

[visitingcock]

I have a question that maybe is best suited for here …

Does anyone have any idea what the NIL budgets are for say the top 10-20 programs? Rev share starts this coming year, any word on how schools like Tennessee, UConn, LSU, Texas, Notre Dame etc will allocate those dollars? Any idea what those NIL figures were like this past year for top flight programs?

Nobody knows that info about their own school much less the Top 20.

 

[southie]

Probably because they, like I, fell for WCBB because it was amateurs representing their universities for four years of college, not to watch an unregulated professional league full of 17-year-old mercenaries demanding $1.5m pay to play for one year, only to jump ship for a higher bidder the year after.

Sooner or later, the Chavez's of the world are going to kill the golden goose. I honestly feel so much more good will towards the W now than I do towards WCBB, which is a pretty stunning reversal from where I was 3 or 4 seasons ago.

Well, there are a lot of things that are out of fans' control, and one of them is NIL; it is what is. Whether we like it or not, it's here to stay. I doubt football players of the same age (like the QB who signed with Michigan for a lot more millions) are getting the same amount of bad wishes and hate from anonymous fans on social media.

I think folks need to keep in mind that it's not the 17-year old making demands; it's their family/inner circle. I try to put myself in their place, and if you trust your parents/family, you believe that they are doing what is best for you, and you don't want to disappoint your family by going against their advice. To an extent, same can be said of transfers who are a little older but still relying on their family's advice and guidance.

 

[cancontent]

Well, there are a lot of things that are out of fans' control, and one of them is NIL; it is what is. Whether we like it or not, it's here to stay. I doubt football players of the same age (like the QB who signed with Michigan for a lot more millions) are getting the same amount of bad wishes and hate from anonymous fans on social media.

I think folks need to keep in mind that it's not the 17-year old making demands; it's their family/inner circle. I try to put myself in their place, and if you trust your parents/family, you believe that they are doing what is best for you, and you don't want to disappoint your family by going against their advice. To an extent, same can be said of transfers who are a little older but still relying on their family's advice and guidance.

And they may or may not really know what they're doing. That's why I'm not a fan of valuations or anything NIL being put out because it's made everything messy. Are people getting the right information to make that decision or are they being sold a bag of goods just so someone can make a quick commission? There are so many layers to this we don't take into consideration sometimes.

 

[jumpstart]

These are not "true" evaluations. They are bidding wars. There is a huge difference and if they have to do "true" evaluations then the NIL money is going to be much less. They are working on it. They are trying to make all of it go through the universities. If they can without a court overturning it. There will be drastic changes coming.

 

[southie]

These are not "true" evaluations. They are bidding wars. There is a huge difference and if they have to do "true" evaluations then the NIL money is going to be much less. They are working on it. They are trying to make all of it go through the universities. If they can without a court overturning it. There will be drastic changes coming.

Not sure what you are trying to say. Players are being watched/evaluated in summer ball, as well as actual games.

NIL is like a house-for-sale. All it takes is for one buyer to pay the asking price.

 

[JstVisiting]

…They are trying to make all of it go through the universities. If they can without a court overturning it.

They cannot.

 

[JstVisiting]

Nobody knows that info about their own school much less the Top 20.

If you listen to South Carolina fans, you’ll hear we have less “NIL” than several competitors in and out of the conference, and close the gap with actual NIL (don’t see any national ad campaigns featuring Lady Vols), Staley, and getting girls to the pros.

If you listen to other fans, we’re terrible no good cheats stealing recruits from pure as the driven snow /prior national champion winning coach/

 

[azfan]

? There are so many layers to this we don't take into consideration sometimes.

Absolutely!

Complexity and as in the rest of life with this type of complexity and uncertainty my bias always has been to defer to the participants directly involved. They know their situation much better than an outsider.

 

[cancontent]

Absolutely!

Complexity and as in the rest of life with this type of complexity and uncertainty my bias always has been to defer to the participants directly involved. They know their situation much better than an outsider.

Yes they do, but do they have the right people around them? That's more of my concern.

It reminds me of a news story about this "basketball guru" by the name of Ro Russell in Canada. Families bought into what he was selling and ended up getting defrauded in the end.

Ro Russell leaves coaching job in wake of devastating Fifth Estate report

If there is a moral to the Ro Russell story, it is probably that the higher one climbs, the more he exposes. The 45-minute Fifth Estate report on the Toronto youth basketball coach and the fallout thereof speaks for itself. … <a...

ca.sports.yahoo.com

 

[azfan]

Yes they do, but do they have the right people around them? That's more of my concern.

It reminds me of a news story about this "basketball guru" by the name of Ro Russell in Canada. Families bought into what he was selling and ended up getting defrauded in the end.

Ro Russell leaves coaching job in wake of devastating Fifth Estate report

If there is a moral to the Ro Russell story, it is probably that the higher one climbs, the more he exposes. The 45-minute Fifth Estate report on the Toronto youth basketball coach and the fallout thereof speaks for itself. … <a...

ca.sports.yahoo.com

Totally get your point. I think the foundation of most learning is feedback often coming from mistakes. I know with my own kids I hate to see them learn because sometimes the consequences of mistakes are long-lasting. Frankly I don't know of any other alternative however to allowing the feedback loop.

 

[packwrap]

Probably because they, like I, fell for WCBB because it was amateurs representing their universities for four years of college, not to watch an unregulated professional league full of 17-year-old mercenaries demanding $1.5m pay to play for one year, only to jump ship for a higher bidder the year after.

Sooner or later, the Chavez's of the world are going to kill the golden goose. I honestly feel so much more good will towards the W now than I do towards WCBB, which is a pretty stunning reversal from where I was 3 or 4 seasons ago.

That's cause WNBA mercenaries only demand $79,000 pay to play for 1 year.

 

[cancontent]

That's cause WNBA mercenaries only demand $79,000 pay to play for 1 year.

I think it should be "can only demand" as it's a component of the CBA structure.

 

[packwrap]

I have a question that maybe is best suited for here …

Does anyone have any idea what the NIL budgets are for say the top 10-20 programs? Rev share starts this coming year, any word on how schools like Tennessee, UConn, LSU, Texas, Notre Dame etc will allocate those dollars? Any idea what those NIL figures were like this past year for top flight programs?

The big schools in calendar year 2024 had about $20 million in booster NIL available. (Google Ohio State $20mil football roster)

Ironically, that is the same number used now for the pay to play revenue sharing, $20.5 million. So for 2025, power schools have a war chest of about $40 million. This has been the source for the beyond ridiculous payments of $4 million annually to a couple QBs.

In theory the booster NIL goes away with House settlement, so the budgets could drop again.

The bigger question for WBB and other sports is how much of the revenue/nil money gets shared with other sports. Tenn for example, on a quest to win a directors cup, has shared funds with even sports like track/xc and of course WBB.

Arkansas appeared to support mens bball with Calipari hiring and recruiting, but not WBB. On another thread there was discussion of Wisconsin supporting womens hockey and volleyball, but not WBB.

Interesting times, indeed.

 

[packwrap]

I think it should be "can only demand" as it's a component of the CBA structure.

You know I was sort of joking, but it is amusing that a pro salary is less than the salary of an unproven college freshman???

This problem is actually what led to entry year regulated pay across all sports. Back in the day Joe Namath was highest paid NFL player, while be was still a student at Alabama. Pros hated seeing a kid get millions for potential, while they got peanuts for actual proven performance.

Owners didn't mind paying a few stars well, but couldn't overpay the whole roster.

Compromise in CBA was series of low paid entry years, followed by free market free agency. Players like it, as only players who earn it on the field get paid.

Owners like it, as it gives them cheap young players to keep total payroll down (or under cap).

 

[FanInNC]

The big schools in calendar year 2024 had about $20 million in booster NIL available. (Google Ohio State $20mil football roster)

Ironically, that is the same number used now for the pay to play revenue sharing, $20.5 million. So for 2025, power schools have a war chest of about $40 million. This has been the source for the beyond ridiculous payments of $4 million annually to a couple QBs.

In theory the booster NIL goes away with House settlement, so the budgets could drop again.

The bigger question for WBB and other sports is how much of the revenue/nil money gets shared with other sports. Tenn for example, on a quest to win a directors cup, has shared funds with even sports like track/xc and of course WBB.

Arkansas appeared to support mens bball with Calipari hiring and recruiting, but not WBB. On another thread there was discussion of Wisconsin supporting womens hockey and volleyball, but not WBB.

Interesting times, indeed.

Yeah, some of what I have read concerning NC State has been about the rev share being 20.5 million (which I guess is the max for all power schools next year) and some I have read seem to think most schools will allocated 75-80% to football, 15-20% to MBB and the remaining 5% or so to non revenue sports however they see fit.

Each school can do their own thing obviously, Tennessee may put $1 million to WBB whereas maybe Arkansas puts $100k or something. I have no idea. This is obviously all money from rev share and has nothing to do with fan donations.

To hear Wes Moore tell it, the Pack is fishing in much smaller ponds than a lot of the national powers. He's talked about needing to be able to fish in the P4 ponds but we have been more like mid major ponds in the last 2 years. I just wondered what type of money gets you in the mix for top talent.