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Yes....a bidding war for his talent. You are still not getting it. It's not based on what money he can bring in to support the amount they are giving him. There is no way to gauge that. That is the problem with this whole mess. This is not a 'market value" game. It's just a 'we could win so offer him the ceiling'. The money he could bring in is not measurable.

That's life!

I think you want to make your perspective everyone else's perspective. Michigan "gauged" how much he can impact their program, and the NIL investors did so, as well. They determined a price and based on their research and projections, they will hope (just like in any other investment anyone makes) the return on their investment comes to fruition in the way of wins.

Every player drafted in any draft (MLB, NFL, NBA, etc.) is a gamble to the investors. How many first round QB's have we seen be busts over the decades despite years of success in college?
 
The bigger question for WBB and other sports is how much of the revenue/nil money gets shared with other sports. womens hockey and volleyball, but not WBB.

Interesting times, indeed.
On point observation.

It's important too I think to remember that college sports is a form of entertainment at its foundation. There are associated factors with the audience engagement in this entertainment but first and foremost it is a significant entertainment industry. "American college sport is big business. It is exponentially bigger, louder, and shinier than anything comparable in Europe. Yet, despite its omnipresence in the US, the sheer scale of its vast commercial and cultural footprint doesn’t always penetrate the public consciousness on this side of the Atlantic."

In aggregate collegiate athletes will now have an opportunity to receive some proportion of the revenue generated by their sports. From my point of view this is unambiguously positive.

In particular however it will be interesting how those funds are allocated . The vast majority I would suspect well over 90% of the funds will be at the P4 level. Therefore the vast majority of athletes will not be affected. There will be individual cases like Chavez and in the case of the NAU Lumberjacks Sophie Glancy who is reportedly received $500 over the past year lol I think as we consider and react to this changing landscape we need to keep this clear reality in mind the vast majority of athletes will not be affected. Lacrosse players at Carlton college in Minnesota will not be affected baseball players at Drake will not be affected. Swimmers at Oberlin college will not be affected. Rugby players at East Tallahassee State will not be affected. This point is clear.

In an earlier post I indicated that the rich get richer. A more accurate depiction would be there will be reallocation among these P4 schools as far as all sports are concerned particularly women's basketball. Thinking back over the various posts on the by on this topic over the past year we can see clear evidence of the churn.

As these turbulent times work out toward an equilibrium I'll be surprised if women's basketball athletes receive much more than 10% of aggregate additional payment with only a tiny tiny unpacked non-p4 schools. Obviously football will be the prime beneficiary followed by men's basketball and then I think we haven't yet seen this happen yet but there will be singular cases reported in sports like women's softball I'm looking at you Oklahoma and swimming. But again it will be insignificant to the total.

There are a number of extremely well-known and very competent sports economists who I'm confident will be studying this over the next 10 to 15 years to provide some clarity.

The last source below explores the impact of this NIL increase in college revenue to sports gambling a topic I had never really considered but which may have really significant future impacts. I just watched a PBS special on the black socs and have regularly thought about Pete Rose. My private view you cannot call your museum a Hall of Fame without Pete Rose the all-time hits leader.

I have an overarching view that transparency and openness is preferable to clandestine and hidden. I also have a bias for individual decision making over collectivism. Regardless of those two points of view the accelerating changes in the labor market and payment methodology in the college entertainment industry will accelerate and in my view be very positive.



Show me the money

Note: interesting result): We conclude that while NIL is certainly a new aspect of recruiting to which universities must devote resources, the existence of NIL is unlikely to cause a dramatic shift in the distribution of talent in college football.

Bard College technical analysis applying the theory of market structure to the labor market.

UofM


Brown College Course

General analysis

The NIL revolution: the transformative impact of the NIL rights ruling in US college sport and the rise of the ‘student-athlete-influencer’​

August 28, 2024

The Effect of Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) Policies on Sports Gambling
Jacksonville State Univ
Note: if the above doesn't open you can always Google search through the title of the article
 
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It wasn't Aaliyah Chavez herself. It was her Dad/family asking for that amount.

Does anyone believe that a high school recruit would be able to negotiate a deal like that on their own? SMH
Absolutely the role of a parent/family in supporting a offspring transition to adulthood. This is exactly what a family should be doing.

Imagine your non athlete child considering colleges - one college welcomes the child for enrollment with no scholarship, another offers a scholarship and a third offers a scholarship full room and board, and a fourth . . . .

One would hope a loving, involved, thoughtful, caring family parent would assist.
 
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Okay...what's happening at Ole Miss? Not sure if any of these were more than role players, but 5 is a bit eye opening. I thought the coach was very well liked.
 
Okay...what's happening at Ole Miss? Not sure if any of these were more than role players, but 5 is a bit eye opening. I thought the coach was very well liked.
No clue. There are rumours the program are close to landing two big prospects out of the portal, but this kind of exodus seems odd considering their season.
 
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Here's a quick take - programs that don't over recruit freshmen from the portal will become (hopefully) the destination for players that want stability and a coaching staff that supports and develops them. Yeah, a bit idealistic, I know. I might be a homer, wait, I am a homer, however IMHO, Geno tells players exactly what their role will be in the following year, and it's up to them to prove him wrong, accept it, or in few cases, make a change themselves. Coaches cannot prevent players from looking for greener pastures, especially those that have numerous folks whispering in their ears.
 
I’ve seen somewhere that Ole Miss is linked to some players currently in the portal. If those names commit, that pretty much erases any opportunities for those leaving.
 
Ole Miss had 6 transfers on their roster which includes l4 5th year seniors and 1 Senior that was the majority of their playing roster. Coach Yo’s sole focus seems to be bringing in transfers so she has done that pretty consistently starting a few years ago with Shakira Austin. Madison Scott is one of the few if not only player she recruited out of HS who played for 4/5 years for her.
While I am bemused by the Q comments, I don’t think that’s the reason. Coach Yo will regularly bring in talent and the current roster will ride the bench.
 
Oh dear, Muffet was grumpy because one of her players might not win an award?

I
AM
SHOCKED
I remember Muffett in about 2014 claiming that ND had the best point guard in the country (whose name I can’t recall) and the best player in the country (Brianna Turner), even though ND’s big rival at the time had Moriah Jefferson and Breanna Stewart. She may have been trolling Geno who to my knowledge failed to take the bait and respond.
 
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I remember Muffett in about 2014 claiming that ND had the best point guard in the country (whose name I can’t recall) and the best player in the country (Brianna Turner), even though ND’s big rival at the time had Moriah Jefferson and Breanna Stewart. She may have been trolling Geno who to my knowledge failed to take the bait and respond.
She was probably referring to Jewell Loyd. As I recall, Jewell Loyd did not play her senior year at ND. Instead she entered the WNBA draft. Additionally, as memory serves me Muffet was furious regarding Jewell’s decision and didn’t even have the common decency to attend the WNBA draft like any other coach to support the player she considered the best guard in the NCAA.
 
I remember Muffett in about 2014 claiming that ND had the best point guard in the country (whose name I can’t recall) and the best player in the country (Brianna Turner), even though ND’s big rival at the time had Moriah Jefferson and Breanna Stewart. She may have been trolling Geno who to my knowledge failed to take the bait and respond.

She thought Lloyd was the best player in the country and should’ve won player of the year instead of Stewie
 
Indiana is just imploding wow. They've already had 5 players transfer out, most benchers, but Meister and Garzon...
 

Yardini, say it ain't so. These are the type of transfers that kinda hurt my soul but I also get. She plays for a great coach and great program. She's been given a lot of responsibility from the start and had a lot of success. As a team Indiana was pretty great and then the environment for a couple years was one of kind. But they obviously lost their two cornerstones and it may be hard to get back to that level her senior year. Additionally she probably wants to have a shot at playing in the W. It would probably benefit her to play on a top 15 team and put up similar stats, than be on a 8-9 seed type team and up her average to 16 or 17 ppg. It's very similar to a Laila Phelia situation last year. She'd really be good almost anywhere, although her shot selection can be a bit off. A team like Oklahoma would be amazing imo
 
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