If it works, I’m all in. I haven’t put any deep thought into an actual process…just going on a feeling. My one beer during this time period isn’t as satisfying anymore. Now I’m up to two. lolI know what you mean. Maybe the way to tame it is to move the window back, not forward. Require players to commit earlier in the season, before the tournaments, not later. Maybe make the month of January the portal window, or February.
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Team culture is the most important thing a coach has to attend to if she wants to create a program and not just a team. This is one of the things that drew us to admire Geno and UConn. Even we appreciate the culture he’s built, and we’re just observing from a distance. Imagine the impact it has on the young people who sign on for it. Even in the lean years, they come to love their team and
That sounds like the old system binding players to their current teams for a year, and a class action suit waiting to happen.I know what you mean. Maybe the way to tame it is to move the window back, not forward. Require players to commit earlier in the season, before the tournaments, not later. Maybe make the month of January the portal window, or February.
Like you, I am concerned about what's happening in Womens College BB, but it's just a logical consequence of what has been happening in Mens, and other college sports as we experience the demise of the true student athlete and go to the era of the mercenary for hire. Fortunately, UConn, under Geno, will always be old school and continue with the emphasis on education and the college experience. I believe we can hang with him and enjoy the new competitive challenges. If, however, the NCAA decides that Women can be one and done like the Men, we are doomed.I think this current year may be the last fun year for me watching women's basketball. Best coaching will not matter. Who has the most bucks to throw around. I am getting really scared waiting to see if anyone on our team announces after the season that they got an offer for $2,000,000 and could not afford to turn it down. Just holding my breath. But even if we keep everyone, I see a lot of schools with big bucks who will grab all the best players from all the other teams. No mid major will keep their best players. Even the schools in the SEC or Big10, if you are not a top school with big bucks say good bye. See Vanderbilt. The only good news seems to be a lot of players are fed up with the stars who insist the game is about them. See what is happening at USC and Notre Dame. I think that is what Paige has been fighting against her whole time at UConn. It can't be about me, it has to be about the team. That is how you build lasting friendships and happy teammates who all work together. We get players like Diana who is great, but averages around 17 points, or Breanna who averages under 20 and Paige who is under 20. When you have 5 really good players on the floor, no one should average over 20 for the season. Only in crunch time does Paige now realize she has to take over, especially if Azzi is having an off night shooting. I really think Paige would love it if Azzi shot 10 for 12 from long range in our upcoming game and Paige scored 12, as long as we win. That is what most makes her great. Hopefully everyone on our team loves their teammates, loves the atmosphere, and of course most all they love the Boneyard and our support and outstandingly helpful criticism and other comments and no amount of money could lure them away.
That there's a portal window at all is a class action suit waiting to happen. Why should there be any restrictions? If the argument the NCAA would make is that it's "in the interest of the sport and the athletes" any particular date could be argued for under such reasoning. Eventually, this sort of argument will lose its credibility.That sounds like the old system binding players to their current teams for a year, and a class action suit waiting to happen.
I, for one, don't "mind" what I read.... I sometimes enjoy chess...Lots of posters refuse to add emojis to their supposed sarcastic comments. The rest of us are supposed to be mind-readers.![]()
I hear you. And it used to be that you had the chance to watch players develop over four years. Now, with one-third of the players in the portal (and counting!), a player staying all four years is the exception rather than the rule. A player on a pro contract is likely to stay with a team longer than a college athlete—is that really possible?The way things are going, why bother watching/following college athletics? You might as well go watch professional sports. They also get paid, but at least they are more skilled.
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It's really an interesting and fascinating discussion. I thought that as well regarding Heckel and Howell even throughout the season. I mean I think Heckel legit could be better right now than TVO. And Howell was probably the best shooter on the team once she got in campus. On top of that it must be hard to play with superstars who get the majority of the attention and credit. It has to be a bit humbling. The storylines and even the questions the players receive are often times not even about them. I guess it's the idea of being in a team you have to buy into but often times individual stars are lifted up instead of the team. And as a teammate you are working just as hard and ultimately want the best things for you as well. And it's not just on the college level. Frankly it's not really even about sports. Theres this tension between am I doing something where I'm fulfilling my potential or am I doing something that even if rewarding is limiting the person/player I perceive myself to be. Like is a ring worth it, if I'm not allowed to reach my potential. Like was it worth it for Saniyah Rivers? I get deciding to leave. But on the flip side ultimately there can only be so many stars.I think you’re probably right but what’s puzzling is they got decent minutes. There have been cases of highly ranked freshmen riding the bench (see Betts, Lauren) but it seemed to me that Howell and Heckel were both major contributors.
If the rumors are true and Heckel enters as well I think USC is in trouble next season. With this year’s freshman trio and Jazzy Davidson I thought they’d still be elite even without Juju but I don’t think they can afford to lose half that quartet.
This is what I was afraid of. That the big east would lose some of their best players. Villanova and Marquette in particular were teams I was hoping would stay together.
... Hopefully everyone on our team loves their teammates, loves the atmosphere, and of course most all they love the Boneyard and our support and outstandingly helpful criticism and other comments and no amount of money could lure them away.
Still can.I hear you. And it used to be that you had the chance to watch players develop over four years. Now, with one-third of the players in the portal (and counting!), a player staying all four years is the exception rather than the rule. A player on a pro contract is likely to stay with a team longer than a college athlete—is that really possible?
As a UConn fan, I'm crossing all my fingers that we buck this trend and don't lose anyone to the portal after the season.
Geno Auriemma, UConn Named a Top Landing Spot For Notre Dame Star Olivia Miles
Yeah, the theory is a head scratcher but not surprised people are putting it out there. Was confused by the way the post framed the question.
Great point, and you're absolutely right. Here in Connecticut, we have a bunch of colleges, and, given that we're a small state, none of them are that far from where I live. While UConn is the big draw, we also have DI Central CT State University, Fairfield, Quinnipiac, Sacred Heart, and Yale (my alma mater). Then we've got four DII schools, ten DIII schools, and two NJCAA schools with women's basketball programs. This is a good reminder that if I don't like the direction that big-time DI sports are heading, I can vote with my dollars, feet, and eyeballs and support some of these other programs in my backyard.Still can.
I've watched unbelievable player development at McClintock High School, Mesa Community College, Arizona Eastern, and Northern Arizona University. And in the old days with CCT and I think those days are going to return with Molly Miller at ASU.
And you're absolutely correct this is one of the most enjoyable things about watching Athletics is the development from the point when they come in as freshmen to the point that they leave five years later.
I remember when Reagan Schenk came to NAU as a freshman point guard. 5 years later she had a triple-double and had made a lasting impact on the program. I was crossed falling after her graduation because the freshman had been sitting behind her in her fifth year was Taylor Feldman who I was convinced would never be able to play Big sky level basketball.
Flash Forward Taylor was the second leading scorer in the Big sky tremendous leader as well as a constant point guard.
I know all of the dedicated fans on the BY have had this experience both in the distance past recent past and we'll have in the future
So yeah it's still possible to watch this perhaps not at the elite power 4 level but I suspect that you're local high school, community college, or state school or smaller private school you will be able to see this. I know I hvw
I have nothing to comment on Dillon, but with the glaring inequities between MBB and WBB and the deplorable FloSports deal (and the two are linked phenomena), is it any wonder the more skilled players are leaving for greener pastures?I work with someone who knows L. Olsen. I asked about the reasons for her transferring:
NIL $$ (NovaMBB gets whatever $ available)
Games on FloSports (big issue)
Vague reference to Denise Dillon. No specifics.
Four biggest clickbait programs available and the widely rumored leader. Grape job. Editor probably asked why Notre Dame wasn't in there.Talk about a weasel statement: “UConn named a top landing spot...” Okay great, but named by whom?
The article links back to a USA Today piece by some no-name writer that simply throws out a list of 5 potential “landing spots” for Miles (UConn, USC, S. Car., Texas, TCU), but with absolutely zero attribution to any sources whatsoever, anonymous or otherwise.
Reminds me of all the hype regarding Paige refusing to go to Dallas or skip the draft altogether despite zero credible sourcesThese clickbait articles are an unflattering testament to the state of media culture.
Talk about a weasel statement: “UConn named a top landing spot...” Okay great, but named by whom?
The article links back to a USA Today piece by some no-name writer that simply throws out a list of 5 potential “landing spots” for Miles (UConn, USC, S. Car., Texas, TCU), but with absolutely zero attribution to any sources whatsoever, anonymous or otherwise.
No that was just on the boneyardReminds me of all the hype regarding Paige refusing to go to Dallas or skip the draft altogether despite zero credible sources
I was thinking something along the same lines. Maybe Howell has pro aspirations and doesn't think Gottlieb is the right coach to develop her for the next three years. Off the top of my head, the only player I can think of that Gottlieb sent to the W for any significant career is Clarendon.Yes - and no. Gottlieb's theory of game plan was, and I quote, "let JuJu be Juju." That would not have flown with Tara at Stanford, Geno at UConn, or Dawn at SCAR. You earn your playing time at those schools, or you transfer (see Betts, Lauren; Rivers, Saniya; and half of UConn's late 2010s classes).
I personally thought Iriafen regressed this season as she stagnated offensively and did not get appreciably better on defense. . . .
Howard Megdal has written about it as well. It's not solely a BY conspiracyNo that was just on the boneyard