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2025 Transfer Portal, part 2




Fills our quota of a at least one California native on the roster. :cool:

Now she can enjoy BBQ sandwiches, chili cheese fries and peanut butter fudge cheesecake milkshakes at 2:30am.... Bet you can't get that in Malibu.
 
Back awhile WBBTakeover said :

Overpaying for players is not "making a big splash". Miami and UVA are bottom half of the ACC teams for a reason (poor coaching, first and foremost)--the players they bought don't move the needle (aren't demonstrably better than the talent they lost, if they are better). Most people here can't name Miami's major acquisitions--because they're not coming from major programs (SMU, UF, and Quinnipiac are not major programs).

Sorry I've been out of commission for a bit so I'm playing catch up. Some things I'd like to point out:

1)There's no evidence to my knowledge that any of these players were "bought".

2)The coaching at Miami wasn't great - I felt they should have won another 5 or 6 games last season which would have made them about a 20-win team and put them on the bubble. Having said that, Z. Spearman, K. Oldacre, Lattimore all hit the portal along with several experienced valuable guards. Additionally, very few coaches have done "great" their first year coaching a P4/P5 program coming from a smaller conference.

3) I'm sure many on here could name several of Miami's acquisitions without any trouble. Stating UF and SMU are not major programs is not a strong argument. I'm sure the people on here could cite many of examples of great players who played for mediocre programs. That's the good side of the portal as it gives those players a chance to showcase their talents at a better program. I'm not saying Miami is a "great" program at the moment but certainly better than those two who accounted for two of their wins last season.
More to the point if a player is a starter on a P4/P5 conference team and plays against other starters at the same level and performs better than most I would consider them a good/better player even if their team is not so good. Isn't that what happened with UCONN picking up Serah Williams from a lousy Wisconsin team through the portal? I might agree with that argument regarding their guard/wing transfers since although they were very good players for their respective teams they are from smaller conferences and don't have much experience going against top tier P4/P5 guards.

4) The Miami coach has learned a lot from season one coaching at the P4/P5 level. That's why she went out and signed 4 Top-100 ranked players in the 2025 class. It's also why she didn't make the same mistake from last year of getting transfers from top flight programs (Michigan and Notre Dame) who weren't starters. Her portal pickups this year were nearly all starters for their previous school and her post player duo is possibly the best post tandem they've ever had.
 
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Rooster C. said:
Back awhile WBBTakeover said :

Overpaying for players is not "making a big splash". Miami and UVA are bottom half of the ACC teams for a reason (poor coaching, first and foremost)--the players they bought don't move the needle (aren't demonstrably better than the talent they lost, if they are better). Most people here can't name Miami's major acquisitions--because they're not coming from major programs (SMU, UF, and Quinnipiac are not major programs).

Sorry I've been out of commission for a bit so I'm playing catch up. Some things I'd like to point out:

1)There's no evidence to my knowledge that any of these players were "bought".

2)The coaching at Miami wasn't great - I felt they should have won another 5 or 6 games last season which would have made them about a 20-win team and put them on the bubble. Having said that, Z. Spearman, K. Oldacre, Lattimore all hit the portal along with several experienced valuable guards. Additionally, very few coaches have done "great" their first year coaching a P4/P5 program coming from a smaller conference.

3) I'm sure many on here could name several of Miami's acquisitions without any trouble. Stating UF and SMU are not major programs is not a strong argument. I'm sure the people on here could cite many of examples of great players who played for mediocre programs. That's the good side of the portal as it gives those players a chance to showcase their talents at a better program. I'm not saying Miami is a "great" program at the moment but certainly better than those two who accounted for two of their wins last season.
More to the point if a player is a starter on a P4/P5 conference team and plays against other starters at the same level and performs better than most I would consider them a good/better player even if their team is not so good. Isn't that what happened with UCONN picking up Serah Williams from a lousy Wisconsin team through the portal? I might agree with that argument regarding their guard/wing transfers since although they were very good players for their respective teams they are from smaller conferences and don't have much experience going against top tier P4/P5 guards.

4) The Miami coach has learned a lot from season one coaching at the P4/P5 level. That's why she went out and signed 4 Top-100 ranked players in the 2025 class. It's also why she didn't make the same mistake from last year of getting transfers from top flight programs (Michigan and Notre Dame) who weren't starters. Her portal pickups this year were nearly all starters for their previous school and her post player duo is possibly the best post tandem they've ever had.
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Good post. Don't know why you've been out of commission, but hope all is better or at least trending that way. Good to have you back.
 
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Okay, now I need to do some research on USport transfer rules because this one is a doozy. Christina Morra is now playing for Guelph University, after playing pro for 3 years after graduating from Wake Forest.

Sharing this only to show that even in Canada, years of eligibility and transfer rules are just as confusing. If memory serves correct, USports provides 5 years of eligibility, so Morra taking advantage of her fifth is possible. Playing pro overseas not disqualifying her for financial aid, is the question mark, unless she's paying for school, similar to a walk-on.

 
The Pierre situation is kind of a shocker, I know she was considering the portal but ultimately said she wanted to stay. She would have been one of the top 15 players in NCAA basketball next season if she continued her trajectory. For them to dismiss her per the article above is really surprising.
 
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Jumper33 said:
The Pierre situation is kind of a shocker, I know she was considering the portal but ultimately said she wanted to stay. She would have been one of the top 15 players in NCAA basketball next season if she continued her trajectory. For them to dismiss her per the article above is really surprising.
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I don't think she was considering the portal. Pretty sure someone on Twitter started the rumor. Her and Vandy came out saying it wasn't true.
 
Geew1992 said:
I don't think she was considering the portal. Pretty sure someone on Twitter started the rumor. Her and Vandy came out saying it wasn't true.
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There was a time where it was being considered. She never said it wasn't true, but that she decided not to enter the portal.

"I want to leave a legacy that lasts. And I believe, with Coach Ralph and this team, we have a real chance to do that together. With that being said I will not be entering the transfer portal. Here's to another year."

www.tennessean.com

Khamil Pierre staying with Vanderbilt women's basketball, will not enter transfer portal

Khamil Pierre, a star for Vanderbilt women's basketball, said that she was staying with the Commodores and would not enter the transfer portal.
www.tennessean.com www.tennessean.com
 
Shea said in a recent interview that Vanderbilt has a ‘unicorn’ in Blakes. Perhaps she should have said they have two unicorns. Khamil was the horse who carried that team to a lot of their wins. But somehow Mikayla got all the attention.

I don’t know if dynamics internal to the team produced this result. But it’s hard not to wonder.
 
Baller29 said:
She can transfer I imagine but won’t be eligible to play
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I was surprised to read in this article by Mitchell Northam on SB Nation that there may be a couple of ways in which Khamil Pierre could play this coming season.

However, multiple sources — including player agents and coaches around the SEC — told SB Nation that there are loopholes Pierre could potentially exploit to play this upcoming season. One way is to simply transfer to a new school, like any typical student, without having any contact with the basketball staff there. Then, once Pierre is accepted to and enrolled in that new school, she could be added to the roster as a walk-on and — hypothetically — be compensated with funds from revenue sharing made possible by the House Settlement.
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Sources also said that the NCAA may be more willing to give Pierre a waiver to transfer and immediately play if Vanderbilt removed her from the team. On the flipside, if it was Pierre’s decision to leave the program, the NCAA is less likely to be empathetic when considering a waiver. The statement from Ralph ambiguously frames which party made the decision, or if it was mutual. However, Vandy247 reported that Pierre was “dismissed” from the team.

If Pierre can find a way to play immediately, a list of potential suitors for her won’t be short.
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Then again, I don't know why anything connected to college athletics should surprise me anymore.
 
Jonathan14 said:
I was surprised to read in this article by Mitchell Northam on SB Nation that there may be a couple of ways in which Khamil Pierre could play this coming season.




Then again, I don't know why anything connected to college athletics should surprise me anymore.
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I suspect someone has been in Khamil's ear. I smell agent.
 
YoDore said:
I suspect someone has been in Khamil's ear. I smell agent.
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Honestly, I hope that’s what it is. Otherwise it could indicate a serious problem for Shea’s program building — to lose a player of that caliber just when things are looking up.
 
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Bone Dog said:
Honestly, I hope that’s what it is. Otherwise it could indicate a serious problem for Shea’s program building — to lose a player of that caliber just when things are looking up.
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Or it could turn out to be a blessing to her program building, depending on the details that we are not privy to.
 
The SB Nation story said sources indicate a problem with compensation.
 
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Geew1992 said:
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full quotation:

"Coach Wes has built a great, rich culture at NC State. It’s become one of the monetary powerhouses in the ACC, and I’m excited to be part of such a financially strong program. Oh and there is a coaching staff, too."
 
So did Vandy just not come up with whatever NIL they were supposed to? What’s the story?

Massive coup for the Pack! Went from a majorly disappointing portal season for the Pack to addressing the team’s concerns.
 
FanInNC said:
So did Vandy just not come up with whatever NIL they were supposed to? What’s the story?
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Report was that she wanted more $ and Vandy didn't have it (or didnt want to give it to her).
 
Vowelguy said:
Report was that she wanted more $ and Vandy didn't have it (or didnt want to give it to her).
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Honestly makes it more shocking that she wound up in Raleigh considering how the portal has gone for State. Maybe Rev share kicked in and State came through. It’s been pretty well known that State struck out on several players this portal season because they were outbid, didn’t want to overpay or didn’t have the funds (however you want to frame it). And the players they missed out on were not on the same level as Pierre.

So did she come at a discount? Did some donor pony up the funds for a big time talent? Did State put more emphasis on WBB with Rev share that kicked in July 1?

Interesting development and out of left field. State is still a very young team (no seniors) but now this team has a real shot to compete for the ACC again.
 
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