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Yes. Trading Castle and the #2 pick as a part of their package to get Giannis would be a mistake for the Spurs.
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I think it would benefit Castle too, he’d be coming off the bench if they were to draft Harper 2. His PT last year was situational. He’s a young player, he can be Milwaukee’s Cade Cunningham.
Question is does Giannis want to play for San Antonio or does he want to go to a bigger market. Leaks from his camp indicate he prefers large markets with more international coverage.
All depends on if it gets them a ring. But they do have a bevy of future picks and swaps also. Some of those swaps could convince a third team to join the trade to lighten the actual players the Spurs send out.
The Spurs own the #2/#14//#38 this year.
They also own a first round swap with ATL next year, their second, Utah's second, NOP/POR (worst of) second, and two other seconds.
In 2027 they own ATL's pick (unprotected) plus swap rights for their second with a few teams.
In 2028 they have swap rights with Boston, and own three seconds.
In 2029 they have their own First and three seconds.
In 2030 first round swap rights with the better of Dal/Min
In 2031 first round swap rights with SAC
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That is a lot of draft capital to get an established start to go with Wemby. I mean you can grow like OKC but even with the best record they are having issues with a one man generational star. Funny thing is if Denver wins I expect Minnesota to beat them easily. It is all about matchups sometimes as well as having enough stars on your team to score big buckets.
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Castle ain’t coming off the bench- you can mark that down…..
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Because we have seen, two stars, with not much around them (Lakers) isn't going anywhere in today's NBA. Getting Giannis would hollow out the team. They'd have no depth.
The smart move is to keep adding. Celtics fans are thrilled they didn't trade Brown and a lot more for KD, because they wouldn't have won last year. Spurs have a nice young team. The goal now should be to take some assets you don't need and work on ideal roster construction. That #2 pick gives them a great chance to do that.
I think there’s a little bit of a difference between 6th year Jaylen brown and 2nd year castle. And I also think the lakers definitely have the ability to retool the roster around 2 stars
Guess I’m just arguing semantics here. The idea that it would be a grave mistake or insane. I’ve said it totally fine to keep #2, or trade down with jazz or nets for their star. But the thought of pairing Giannis and wemby being a “mistake” is insane to me - and it’s solely because you guys have a little crush on castle, which is fine.
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You seem to be the only one saying it's insane.
I'm saying it would be a mistake to trade Castle and the #2 pick as a part of their package to get Giannis for a number of reasons which I already stated. It has nothing to do with having a crush on Castle. I would actually prefer him with the Bucks because he would be their go to guy right away, he would average close to 25 ppg, and I would get to see him play in person several times.
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That's a really good showing for Liam in terms of measurables. I maintain he will be a very good pro and his injury and what UConn asked him to do this past season didn't showcase how good he is.
Dauster was talking Kon Knueppel up as his #3 pick. I just don't see it with him. Both Liam and Kon have good floors with somewhat limited ceilings but I think Liam has a higher ceiling.
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Just going to post this. He looks terrific!
Stroke is looking automatic. Know he would prefer to play pro ball in Texas. Looks like his best shot if draft positions were to remain the same-which probably won't happen-Is Houston at #10 or Spurs at #14
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2.75 seconds in the shuttle run isn't a record, and there are 2 players this year who beat that, but 2.75 seconds is excellent.
One thing McNeeley never truly revealed while a Husky was a dynamic athleticism. But he sure made up for that at the NBA Draft combine this past week in Chicago.
McNeeley set a combine record in the shuttle run with a time of 2.75 seconds, while also posting an impressive, 36 1/2-inch vertical leap. Heck, he even grew a little bit: listed at 6-foot-7 on UConn's roster, McNeeley, he measured at 6-foot-6 3/4 barefoot and 6-8 with shoes, with a 6-8 1/2 wingspan and 8-4 standing reach.
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Yeah, was surprised by that vertical.
Also, not that I know much, but that shuttle run as an important drill seems slightly dumb.
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Large markets like Milwaukee? More international coverage? ever heard of Tony Parker and Manu Ginobli? I would not trade for Giannis but that is only because he is 30. The spurs have a chance to be good for 10 years, not 5. But SA is perfect for him.
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Has a superstar ever delivered a title after changing teams after the age of 30? (not including covid bubble) I cant think of a single case. All recent title winners have drafted and developed their own talent. Chemistry and continuity are what matter most, along with talent.
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Well LeBron also 2016 for starters
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Am I the only one that thinks if the Spurs keep the pick and decide between benching Castle or Harper, they'd pick Harper?
A 6'6 PG that is best known for getting downhill and finishing at the rim, while also being a good passer to set up teammates? Steph Castle literally just won ROY doing that while averaging 15/5/5. Why would you replace the reigning ROY with another rookie and hope he does the same thing? You could just keep playing the guy that already did it
A 6'6 PG that is best known for getting downhill and finishing at the rim, while also being a good passer to set up teammates? Steph Castle literally just won ROY doing that while averaging 15/5/5. Why would you replace the reigning ROY with another rookie and hope he does the same thing? You could just keep playing the guy that already did it
The "problem" is that Harper is by far the second best prospect in the draft according to pretty much everyone. Not taking him would be a disservice to the organization (at the minimum as an asset).
Harper and Castle have some similar qualities but I think Harper (at least) would benefit immensely playing next to Castle, or Fox. He was a much better shooter off the catch, rather than off the dribble (IIRC).
The plus for Castle is that he is a great secondary playmaker and doesn't necessarily need to be the PG, and he is already one of the best perimeter defenders in the NBA without being a complete zero on offense. Even if one of the two comes off the bench while Fox is there, there is a ton of minutes to get them all thirty plus, but the coach will have to be on point with rotations.
I think the Spurs are hoping they end up with their Cade AND their SGA in about 2-4 years.
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Yep, they pretty much HAVE to take Harper. It’s risky to pick for fit at #2 instead of getting the best guy available
Not sure what the Chris Paul situation is going to be, but I assume they start all 3 of Fox/Harper/Castle with Castle flexing to SF
But if they were forced to bench one or the other, not sure why they’d bench Castle
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Can't imagine any decisions are going to give much weight to a 41-year-old Chris Paul.
I watched a ton of Harper this week--he'd be a #1 pick in most drafts realistically.
If you pair Fox, Harper, Steph, and Wemby with a 4 who can screen/shoot and little else they could be a championship-level team in a few years.
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Chris Paul is a FA, I'm sure he's not factoring into any of their decisions. I doubt he's being re-signed, they'll need that money for wings
Agreed.
Liam's measured vertical and shuttle were surprising.
I honestly don't recall any plays during the season where McNeeley displayed athleticism correlating to those combine numbers.
Goes to show you combine numbers aren't the best gauge.