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2025 NBA Draft Thread

freescooter said:
the NBA draft has become more and more about potential than current talent
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So true. Take the top 2 players from the top 2 teams (according to NCAA seeding) this past college season: Flagg and Broome. You compare their stats head to head, and the 2 of them compare very similarly. Flagg has the edge in 3 pt shooting and steals, Broome the edge with rebounds and blocks...everything else is more or less a push. While Broome played the 5 most of the time, both are projected to play the 4 in the NBA.

So what's the big difference? Flagg's 18 while Broome turns 23 in 3 weeks. Flagg is already as good as he is but still had a LOT of room to become an ever better player, while Broome probably doesn't have much run way to improve his game that much more, being almost 23 already.

They may have more or less been equals on the court this past season, but Flagg has so much more potential to grow his game, hence why he was the consensus #1 pick while Broome is a 2nd rounder.
 
Brochacho said:
McNeeley is going to sign for about 5.5 million guaranteed and people think he should’ve come back? Lol.
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Now he can take the Brady chip on the shoulder and turn it into something. I don’t sense he was a kid hurting for money to begin with. Take the chip and turn it into a great NBA career.
 
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it's already bad enough that they're stretching the draft into 2 days, starting the 2nd round at 8pm is ridiculous. last year they started round 2 in the early afternoon.
 
Chinese center the Blazers drafted plays like Sengun. if they're really planning on bringing him over this year they gotta move off of at least 2 of those centers. I don't even think you can get anything for Robert Williams given the condition of his knees.

 
aceboon said:
it's already bad enough that they're stretching the draft into 2 days, starting the 2nd round at 8pm is ridiculous. last year they started round 2 in the early afternoon.
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I don't get the complains about this (you're not alone on it, so I'm not picking on you by any means). Do you have something better to do? If so, do it.

I love the draft, and I love another day of content and something to watch tonight. The afternoon was tough to watch and also media people had to choose between making content talking about the 1st round or covering the 2nd round, now they can do both and I can consume both.
 
auror said:
I don't get the complains about this (you're not alone on it, so I'm not picking on you by any means). Do you have something better to do? If so, do it.

I love the draft, and I love another day of content and something to watch tonight. The afternoon was tough to watch and also media people had to choose between making content talking about the 1st round or covering the 2nd round, now they can do both and I can consume both.
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I think in a general sense, the NBA is trying to capture the magic, the event that is the NFL draft. They are failing completely in that goal. They will go back to the drawing board I am sure. They have nobody who even knows these players on the broadcasts. There's a stable of college guys who could be good at this, but they choose the NBA guys who are often woefully ignorant of the college game (and in Perk's case, woefully ignorant in general). They need the basketball equivalent of a Mel Kiper or something. A guy who studies all these players, including international, builds little highlight videos, who can dissect strengths, weaknesses etc.

Maybe they will get there. Right now, it's style >>>>>>>>substance and that isn't working.
 
The ESPN draft production is trash. The NFL isn’t even that good but is still way ahead of the NBA. Anyone notice Colin Cowherd get drafted last night?
 
UConnTrumbull said:
The ESPN draft production is trash. The NFL isn’t even that good but is still way ahead of the NBA. Anyone notice Colin Cowherd get drafted last night?
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The NFL is impressive. 7 rounds and those guys know details about most players even in the late rounds. They pull up highlights instantly, of hundreds of guys. It's a much harder thing to cover. ESPN NBA coverage can't get the name of a first round pick right.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
I think in a general sense, the NBA is trying to capture the magic, the event that is the NFL draft. They are failing completely in that goal. They will go back to the drawing board I am sure. They have nobody who even knows these players on the broadcasts. There's a stable of college guys who could be good at this, but they choose the NBA guys who are often woefully ignorant of the college game (and in Perk's case, woefully ignorant in general). They need the basketball equivalent of a Mel Kiper or something. A guy who studies all these players, including international, builds little highlight videos, who can dissect strengths, weaknesses etc.

Maybe they will get there. Right now, it's style >>>>>>>>substance and that isn't working.
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they used to have Fran Fraschilla for that, not sure why they dropped him from the draft night coverage team
 
HuskyHawk said:
The NFL is impressive. 7 rounds and those guys know details about most players even in the late rounds. They pull up highlights instantly, of hundreds of guys. It's a much harder thing to cover. ESPN NBA coverage can't get the name of a first round pick right.
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Even the mlb draft and nhl draft coverage is better. It does help when Stephen A isn't on the draft coverage.
 
So moving on to Round 2:

For Boston at 32 my preferences are:
1. Rasheer Flemming. Has the body and athleticism to play the 4 and can shoot.
2. Maxime Raynaud. Better NBA game than Kalk.
3. Noah Penda. Know very little, but he can defend both forward spots and his shooting is decent.
 
HuskyHawk said:
So moving on to Round 2:

For Boston at 32 my preferences are:
1. Rasheer Flemming. Has the body and athleticism to play the 4 and can shoot.
2. Maxime Raynaud. Better NBA game than Kalk.
3. Noah Penda. Know very little, but he can defend both forward spots and his shooting is decent.
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I think Reynoud will be the pick due to his shooting, although I think Kalkbrenner will be an effective backup big in the NBA. Penda is one of the best players left. He just might be redundant after the Hugo pick. Both have some physical tools and reasonable upside, but neither is sure bet to shoot it yet.
 
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Scoe said:
Any shot of Samson getting drafted?
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Not really. I haven't seen him in any mock drafts or on anybody's big boards. I wouldn't be shocked he ends up on a summer league roster. I know that various teams worked him out during the predraft process.
 
auror said:
I don't get the complains about this (you're not alone on it, so I'm not picking on you by any means). Do you have something better to do? If so, do it.

I love the draft, and I love another day of content and something to watch tonight. The afternoon was tough to watch and also media people had to choose between making content talking about the 1st round or covering the 2nd round, now they can do both and I can consume both.
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The thing that people don't really mention is how much better having the second round on another day is for teams, which should be the most important factor. They can take a closer look at the prospects who are still available, assess their team's needs after the first round, and shop around for potential deals. As far as the timing, I'm with you that showing it at night makes it easier for people to watch, even if tonight's picks will only be relevant for hardcore fans. The end of this round will be slim pickings.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
I think in a general sense, the NBA is trying to capture the magic, the event that is the NFL draft. They are failing completely in that goal. They will go back to the drawing board I am sure. They have nobody who even knows these players on the broadcasts. There's a stable of college guys who could be good at this, but they choose the NBA guys who are often woefully ignorant of the college game (and in Perk's case, woefully ignorant in general). They need the basketball equivalent of a Mel Kiper or something. A guy who studies all these players, including international, builds little highlight videos, who can dissect strengths, weaknesses etc.
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ESPN has a guy on staff that fits that bill. No idea how good he is front of a camera but they may want to give it a try. I couldn't listen to Stephen A. Smith, who probably didn't watch more than a hand full of college basketball games all year.

espnpressroom.com

Jonathan Givony

Jonathan Givony is an NBA Draft expert and the founder and co-owner of DraftExpress.com, a private scouting and analytics service utilized by NBA, NCAA and International teams. Givony joined ESPN in July of 2017 to spearhead ESPN’s NBA Draft and international basketball coverage. Prior to ESPN...
espnpressroom.com
 
I really dont understand this Liam vs Kon crap, It wasn't like they were 10 picks apart. Apparently a lot of teams saw there was/is a difference. Most next morning rating systems praised Kon's selection and many saw Liams as B to C+. The lowly Nets passed on him 4 or 5 times and they were drafting scorers
I am not saying that Liam is worse or better than Kon but based on overall performance LAST season, most all thought Kon had a better upside. As I had said last night - Liam's overall performance on the court was less than I expected and it appears that most all pro teams saw it that way also. I hope Liam proves anyone with doubts as wrong and all who have their panties in wad because he wasn't a lottery pick as geniuses.
Both Liam and Dan Hurley/UConn are very fortunate that he was chosen last night. If Liam was the only left in the "privileged area" at close of business - it would have been an embarrassment to some degree.
I wish Liam the best.
 
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HooperScooper said:
ESPN has a guy on staff that fits that bill. No idea how good he is front of a camera but they may want to give it a try. I couldn't listen to Stephen A. Smith, who probably didn't watch more than a hand full of college basketball games all year.

espnpressroom.com

Jonathan Givony

Jonathan Givony is an NBA Draft expert and the founder and co-owner of DraftExpress.com, a private scouting and analytics service utilized by NBA, NCAA and International teams. Givony joined ESPN in July of 2017 to spearhead ESPN’s NBA Draft and international basketball coverage. Prior to ESPN...
espnpressroom.com
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Givony works the draft night for ESPN, he's really not that good on camera though. His former Draft Express partner Mike Schmitz used to work for the ESPN draft night coverage as well and was much better on camera, he got hired by the Blazers a few years ago.
 
ctbro1999 said:
So true. Take the top 2 players from the top 2 teams (according to NCAA seeding) this past college season: Flagg and Broome. You compare their stats head to head, and the 2 of them compare very similarly. Flagg has the edge in 3 pt shooting and steals, Broome the edge with rebounds and blocks...everything else is more or less a push. While Broome played the 5 most of the time, both are projected to play the 4 in the NBA.

So what's the big difference? Flagg's 18 while Broome turns 23 in 3 weeks. Flagg is already as good as he is but still had a LOT of room to become an ever better player, while Broome probably doesn't have much run way to improve his game that much more, being almost 23 already.

They may have more or less been equals on the court this past season, but Flagg has so much more potential to grow his game, hence why he was the consensus #1 pick while Broome is a 2nd rounder.
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Yes and no tbh. There are so few players that
ToolzieFan said:
Not really. I haven't seen him in any mock drafts or on anybody's big boards. I wouldn't be shocked he ends up on a summer league roster. I know that various teams worked him out during the predraft process.
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smason strikes me as we
ToolzieFan said:
The thing that people don't really mention is how much better having the second round on another day is for teams, which should be the most important factor. They can take a closer look at the prospects who are still available, assess their team's needs after the first round, and shop around for potential deals. As far as the timing, I'm with you that showing it at night makes it easier for people to watch, even if tonight's picks will only be relevant for hardcore. The end of this round will be slim pickings.
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Needed to happen. The nba second round is now important and it gives teams time to talk with agents about if players are interested in :

1. Staying overseas
2. Contract length
3. Two-way interest

Teams have to develop their second round and two way players these days considering the salary cap and other rules.
 
I like Derik Queen, but the Pelicans trading an unprotected 2026 first rounder to move up and draft him has the chance to really blow up in their face considering who is expected to be at the top of the 2026 draft. Their 2 best players are Zion and Trey Murphy and neither can stay healthy, if they miss time they'll be right back at the bottom of the standings.
 
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