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You just proved my point. You seem clueless. I said maybe Wellever will beat them out. Turner could not beat out the transfers everyone craps on, so obviously we didn’t get a hs kid who could beat out mediocre transfers which is what I said, your JState thing isn’t proof of a thing that refutes what I said. it reinforces it. And neither Wellever or McDonald beat anyone out for that matter.

So if none of our QBs who actually see the field light anyone’s fire, it doesn’t mean the coaches aren’t trying, it suggests we have a hard time getting the quality of QB we all want. And what does not getting the kind of player we want at QB have to do with how we recruit other positions? Do you know what a non sequitur is? QBs kind of are important. As I said, maybe Wellever or one of the hs recruits will get the job and do well. Do you think being an Indy has anything to do with the quality of QB we get. We probably only get one really good year from a hs recruit anyway before they jump.
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Turner - not a quality G5 QB
Fagnano, Evers - top G5 QBs (Evers has a chance for higher)
Welliver - not able to beat out top G5 QBs as a freshman, but that does not mean he isn't a very good prospect.

So show me the drop that we've suffered in recruiting since being an Independent (you know... actual data). The rest is just nonsense you've been spewing for 2 weeks...
 
He openly declared for the portal. Yes, there is a chance he pulls a Yates and withdraws to stay, but let's be honest, the track record of players declaring for the portal only to reverse and stay is NOT in our favor. His decision to play in the bowl can be construed as an opportunity to showcase his skills for his next team. So until he clearly says he staying, it's evident he looking to leave.
Some kids declare for the portal because they want out. Almost always true for a walk on looking for a lower level schollie and chance to play somewhere else. Some kids declare for the portal not because they want to leave, but because they are willing to leave for a better offer. Better may mean playing time, or money, or bigger time program. But in the latter case, it just means they are open to a better offer. Doesn’t mean they will get one.

The rules on all this are being developed day by day. You may end up being right that he’s gone, but I wouldn’t put too much faith in prior year’s precedents for a game with rules changing this rapidly.
 
Iowa is ranked 35 and Auburn is ranked 66, and UConn is 60, according to CBS Sports. Iowa is 44, Auburn is 70, and UConn is 59, according to Fox Sports. From what I understand Michigan spent a lot of money on another QB. UConn may have a chance with Moss. I totally agree with CJasmer the biggest weakness on UConn's team is a good throwing QB.
Those are both single person opinions as is Hero. We could do better getting a composite ranking from the opinions of the folks in this forum.
 
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Turner - not a quality G5 QB
Fagnano, Evers - top G5 QBs (Evers has a chance for higher)
Welliver - not able to beat out top G5 QBs as a freshman, but that does not mean he isn't a very good prospect.

So show me the drop that we've suffered in recruiting since being an Independent (you know... actual data). The rest is just nonsense you've been spewing for 2 weeks...
See, I agree Evers has a chance, but you must also agree that he has nobody raving about him including you and yet neither McDonald nor Wellever and the couple of other hs QBs on the bench beat him out. Your arguments totally ignore your illogic. And i said maybe Wellever or some other hs QB can become the starter, didn’t I. And I also said Turner got his chance and flopped lost the job to a transfer nobody loved. So show me where that is inaccurate or spewing nonsense. I am waiting. Show me the QB on the roster out of hs or the portal everyone has been thrilled by and claimed the job. You can’t because it hasn’t happened. I have not said once that it will never happen. Show me where I said that. I did say being Indy might be making it hard to attract that QB. I guess you disagree. I also said that in today’s world if we get that QB, there is every chance they split after a year or two. I guess you disagree. I know you think I am spewing garbage and I think you have blinders on. It’s what makes for discussion. You seem to be unable to be civil about it. Too bad because it just isn’t that important.
 
They will pass on us! That is my point! so we don't get that kid, we must make a decision and the decision has to be to get kids here with as much talent as possible. Then you let them play for it. At this level we cant look over our shoulder and wonder - as we look back in time if we made the right decision. First of all, we don't make decisions. Second we don't make decisions. I will cheer on whoever wears the uniforms for as long as they do. I wish we could get a talented kid to come here, succeed and stay for 5 years if possible. I wish UConn was the top pillar in football where the pigskin not the big orange ball was the premier sport. I wish I was a billionaire. These are all great wishes! But I trust in our coach because he has the job to drive this program and not to grant wishes! He coaches kids, his players and wants them to succeed as a team and individually. He wants classy kids with drive and talent! The specifics of those metrics are for him to think about. I simply support him any way I can. And I know he doesn't come to these message boards nor do his kids nor should they. So your talk about HS football recruits - well it reminds me of when the CT HS's wanted and loved the Uconn hire Paul P. The fossil who I laughed at up at Syracuse and then when he came here realized Karma just slapped me in the face. SO when it comes to HS and HS talent... keep this in mind. We can develop them we can mentor them. They will leave just like any other kid who does well in our system to a bigger name recognized school. Few kids will stay and that is because they believe the position they are in where they are will give them their best opportunity. Shine here and you may make the NFL. But no klid is staying here because he loves the fans atmosphere! They know when they leave, we will cheer just as loud as the next kid to wear that uniform. This is even more true in the NFL.
On your last point, as Seinfeld obseved, we root
for whomever is wearing our laundry. My point really isn’t that complicated. We don’t be seeming to attract hs kids capable of beating out the transfers the board criticize. And I said maybe - how the hell would i know for sure - it’s because we are an Indy not named Notre Dame. And then people throw utter nonsense at me about how the coaches try hard. Utter nonsense because anyone who thinks they aren’t trying hard is an idiot. Of course they are. The last thing I think is that anyone in any job, and for certain D1 coaching where tenure is so dependent on winning, is so suicidal that they fail on purpose. That obviously goes for Mora, but it also goes for Diaco.RE2, Pasqualoni, too. Failure doesn’t mean they were not trying their best to succeed.
 
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Some kids declare for the portal because they want out. Almost always true for a walk on looking for a lower level schollie and chance to play somewhere else. Some kids declare for the portal not because they want to leave, but because they are willing to leave for a better offer. Better may mean playing time, or money, or bigger time program. But in the latter case, it just means they are open to a better offer. Doesn’t mean they will get one.

The rules on all this are being developed day by day. You may end up being right that he’s gone, but I wouldn’t put too much faith in prior year’s precedents for a game with rules changing this rapidly.
And, there are kids who enter the portal because they are told to for a variety of reasons. You almost never see a kid dismissed for academic or disciplinary reasons anymore. They enter the portal.
 
They will pass on us! That is my point! so we don't get that kid, we must make a decision and the decision has to be to get kids here with as much talent as possible. Then you let them play for it. At this level we cant look over our shoulder and wonder - as we look back in time if we made the right decision. First of all, we don't make decisions. Second we don't make decisions. I will cheer on whoever wears the uniforms for as long as they do. I wish we could get a talented kid to come here, succeed and stay for 5 years if possible. I wish UConn was the top pillar in football where the pigskin not the big orange ball was the premier sport. I wish I was a billionaire. These are all great wishes! But I trust in our coach because he has the job to drive this program and not to grant wishes! He coaches kids, his players and wants them to succeed as a team and individually. He wants classy kids with drive and talent! The specifics of those metrics are for him to think about. I simply support him any way I can. And I know he doesn't come to these message boards nor do his kids nor should they. So your talk about HS football recruits - well it reminds me of when the CT HS's wanted and loved the Uconn hire Paul P. The fossil who I laughed at up at Syracuse and then when he came here realized Karma just slapped me in the face. SO when it comes to HS and HS talent... keep this in mind. We can develop them we can mentor them. They will leave just like any other kid who does well in our system to a bigger name recognized school. Few kids will stay and that is because they believe the position they are in where they are will give them their best opportunity. Shine here and you may make the NFL. But no klid is staying here because he loves the fans atmosphere! They know when they leave, we will cheer just as loud as the next kid to wear that uniform. This is even more true in the NFL.
I think I recall Coach P losing to Michigan by 3pts. He was an outstanding coach, not only for X and Oś, but for making his players better human beings. Was coaching in the NFL until recently...
 
Do we know that Welliver was even in the mix for this season or if he & coaches decided to retain redshirt and only throw him in a few meaningless spots. Mora might, just might, have a plan for the kid. We definitely didn't need "deer in the headlights" from the QB position this year, even though it did happen to the other guys on occasion...
 
And, there are kids who enter the portal because they are told to for a variety of reasons. You almost never see a kid dismissed for academic or disciplinary reasons anymore. They enter the portal.
Not a great analogy, but it’s a bit like MBB kids getting opinions on draft stock before declaring. It’s a free look at your worth
 
You could get a really good HS kid who plays for UConn and becomes the best star QB we ever had, Guess what - he's not sticking around for 3 years! That is just it. We are not a P4 conference. He gets an offer to play with them. He is gone! I agree we need multiple QB's and I am not worried who is the best or the worst. It is not my job to weigh in on how this may or may not look. Pull up the BIG Boy Pants and let the best kid get the job. No one and I mean NO ONE deserves anything in this life. Fight for it - Get the passion for it. keep it! And I am so glad I don't have the coaching job. I prefer being on my PC with my keyboard and thinking - none of what I do here will have any affect on any decision making for UConn Football. That means I can be a fan and put my trust in Coach Mora as I have done since he got here!

 
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You need players that are committed to UConn as a program. The school and team ethos is a thing of past generations when kids were raised on the idea that loyalty and pride in a program mattered. All about money.
 
Do we know that Welliver was even in the mix for this season or if he & coaches decided to retain redshirt and only throw him in a few meaningless spots. Mora might, just might, have a plan for the kid. We definitely didn't need "deer in the headlights" from the QB position this year, even though it did happen to the other guys on occasion...
Frankly, I think he was just red shirted. McDonald I think was ahead of him but obviously not ahead of the transfers.
 
I know he probably won’t do it, but I would love to hear Mora honestly answer what kind of QB he is looking for in the portal. I know that’s tricky because he doesn’t want to throw Roberson or Evers under the bus, but I tend to agree with other sentiments in this thread that some sort of starting experience matters.

You can keep signing ex-4 stars and ‘hope’ they finally get it…or get a 2 or 3 star who has had reps who has shown they can play. Yes the upside may not be as great, but as we saw with Fagnano…you don’t need a star…you just need competence at QB. But..i do think that Fagnano was at the low end of competence. I don’t think he is the model of what they want….but he showed reps are better than stars.

Also…regarding Welliver…he may be the answer..but as we know…the team needs multiple qbs who can start.
Yeah, that Fagnano threw too many TD passes. He won games by leading the offense into the endzone a few too many times. This was so NOT UConn where they grind a boring offense into the face of an 8-9 man box. Stop bitching about that kid. He saved the season.
 
I think I recall Coach P losing to Michigan by 3pts. He was an outstanding coach, not only for X and Oś, but for making his players better human beings. Was coaching in the NFL until recently...

Is that the game in Ann Arbor when Shoemate fumbled inside the 10-15?
 
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Is that the game in Ann Arbor when Shoemate fumbled inside the 10-15?
It was at UConn in 2013. Packed stadium. On 4th and 29, they came up 1 yard short for a first down deep in Michigan territory. Great game. P was a great coach, even though he gets beat up on the boneyard...
 
Describe what makes him a great coach?
I was familiar with him, with my son playing 4 years under his coaching guidance. There are a number of things that make a coach special. Society makes winning number 1. Of course, that is most important. But, But there are a number of other things that are equally as important as winning for those who play the game. When an athlete leaves an athletic program, any sport, they should be better prepared to take on the blows that will occur during their lifetime. The old saying, ¨not how many times you get knocked down, how many times you get up¨! Coach P made his athletes better in the game of life. I doubt if that is important in today´s world, but as we see athletes leave a team after 1 year for the portal to make $$$$, anyone who grew up in the days when loyalty to the team, be it college or pro, long for the old days.
Coach Mora is a throw back to the days when being a better human being for having played the sport means allot. While money rules, trying make that the most important thing in life when ¨the going gets tough¨. This will make little sense to most on the boneyard, but it sure makes sense to my son and those who played for Coach P.
 
... says the guy that has been ranting about the same thing for 2 weeks.

Bottom line: the coaching staff is going to try to secure the best players they can. If that's the 5-star freshman, then that's great. If it's the transfer senior, that's great too. The best player we can secure for our team is literally what the coaches are paid for.

You need to stop with this idea that we're sending the wrong message to future high school recruits because you're just flat out wrong...
Got EEM
 
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Ah, I was confused and replying to the fumble comment. I was at the Michigan game in east Hartford and while I knew P, he was not a great HC.
Respect your opinion, but you could ask head coaches in the NFL what kind of coach he was. Anyway, JM is doing a great job. Go Huskies.....Beat NC
 
Respect your opinion, but you could ask head coaches in the NFL what kind of coach he was. Anyway, JM is doing a great job. Go Huskies.....Beat NC
There is a difference between being a good and decent man who loves sharing his knowledge of the game w/ players of all ages and skill sets and being a great head coach. Respect the man’s defensive knowledge and passion for game but he was stale when he got to UConn as head coach.
 
It was at UConn in 2013. Packed stadium. On 4th and 29, they came up 1 yard short for a first down deep in Michigan territory. Great game. P was a great coach, even though he gets beat up on the boneyard...
CW also threw a couple back breaking INTs and it was still winnable… iirc
 
I was familiar with him, with my son playing 4 years under his coaching guidance. There are a number of things that make a coach special. Society makes winning number 1. Of course, that is most important. But, But there are a number of other things that are equally as important as winning for those who play the game. When an athlete leaves an athletic program, any sport, they should be better prepared to take on the blows that will occur during their lifetime. The old saying, ¨not how many times you get knocked down, how many times you get up¨! Coach P made his athletes better in the game of life. I doubt if that is important in today´s world, but as we see athletes leave a team after 1 year for the portal to make $$$$, anyone who grew up in the days when loyalty to the team, be it college or pro, long for the old days.
Coach Mora is a throw back to the days when being a better human being for having played the sport means allot. While money rules, trying make that the most important thing in life when ¨the going gets tough¨. This will make little sense to most on the boneyard, but it sure makes sense to my son and those who played for Coach P.
I understand your point, and others say it, but I don’t agree. A college football coach is paid to win games. It’s great if he’s also a good person and role model, but that‘s not what he’s paid for. Look, as ridiculous as it sounds 45 years later I have a varsity letter from an NCAA institution. I wanted my coach to make me better in my sport. Was he a good man? Sure, but so what? I didn’t need a mentor. I had a father. I had older relatives. I had teachers and professors. It’s always great if you can learn life lessons from an older person put in a role where mentorship can evolve, but it’s not necessary that person be a football coach. A coach needs to teach his players their sport and make them better at it.

Did P have a good career with some huge highlights at Syracuse? Yes. Is he a good teacher of footbal? He must be. Is he a good human being? I’m sure he is. But he took a program that had won something like 8, 7, 7 and 9 wins the four years before he got here and went 5-7, 5-7 and 0-4 when here. No matter how many players look up to him as a mentor, he didn’t get it done.
 
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