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2025 Inbound Portal Options (December 9th - 28th 2024 & April 16th - 25th 2025 Cycle)

CTBasketball said:
And for those who the issue is G5 limited and that we need a conference, a bunch of high profile P4 starters are in the portal. It’s a systemic problem independent of conference or level.

Boston College - 12 players
Alabama - 16 players
USC - 19 players
Florida St - 20+ players
UConn - 15 players

Something has to change.
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True but many of these P4 kids end up at other P4 schools. The G5 schools are losing their main contributers to the P4 and it's really hurting programs unless they can hit on the portal year in and year out. The P4 schools have a better crop to choose from when replacing kids who leave. Or more likely, the kids leaving are because the school is bringing in a better player to replace them.
 
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UConnDan97 said:
Quite frankly, I expect bigger portal numbers from the SEC and B1G. There is a higher concentration of 4- and 5- star kids sitting the bench. And they aren't used to that. They want theirs...
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Screw it. They knew what program they were going to. It is a totally easy fix. The whole idea was to not “punish” kids by making them sit a year when a coach could leave for more money right away. What they could do is modify the old rule to give a player a free transfer if the coach that recruited leaves for any reason. Maybe hardship exceptions but that used to be administered a bit arbitrarily. If a UConn player doesn’t like the NIL deal. tough. A UConn is now in the situation of losing kids as soon as they think they can do better NIL elsewhere because they had a good.year. So a UConn might get a transfer up from a “lower” program who either does well enough to help for a year then leave and might have to fill in again the next year, or hope that the unhappy kid from P4 is gold. Which hasn’t happened much at skill positions. That might work against a weak schedule.
 
BCU just got the backup 4 star QB from Alabama. He picked them over UNC and Notre Dame. The rich get richer.
 
NE Football said:
BCU just got the backup 4 star QB from Alabama. He picked them over UNC and Notre Dame. The rich get richer.
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Top schools have logjams at QB as they bring in top recruits each year so it makes sense to go after the 3rd/4th string QB at a a school like Alabama and see if you can develop them. Plus, O'Brien recruited him at Alabama so there was a relationship. I think BC should also pursue a proven college QB as they are available like Syracuse did with McCord last year.
 
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cohenzone said:
I agree that if a hs recruited kid is good enough they will get the job. And I get the portal is part of the game - but hs recruiting is too. But I find it borderline hilarious that the same people who are so in love with the portal are many of the same people who are happy when a Wellever commits and complain about all of our previous portal QBs. Obviously every year is different and Zion got a shot. I also know that if Dan’s comment about 20 year olds having edge is more often true than not, the likelihood that our hs recruits will stick around for 3 years or get live game experience before transferring themselves becomes totally dependent on injury or the guy who they couldn't beat out in the first place not cutting it. We haven’t had a single QB transfer in in several years people were so excited about that the portal should seem all that attractive. This year our 1 and 2 QBs were both transfers. McDonald seems not to have been a real contender. So was he a hit or miss? Wellever was being red-shirted so we should get to see if he can win the job.
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You could get a really good HS kid who plays for UConn and becomes the best star QB we ever had, Guess what - he's not sticking around for 3 years! That is just it. We are not a P4 conference. He gets an offer to play with them. He is gone! I agree we need multiple QB's and I am not worried who is the best or the worst. It is not my job to weigh in on how this may or may not look. Pull up the BIG Boy Pants and let the best kid get the job. No one and I mean NO ONE deserves anything in this life. Fight for it - Get the passion for it. keep it! And I am so glad I don't have the coaching job. I prefer being on my PC with my keyboard and thinking - none of what I do here will have any affect on any decision making for UConn Football. That means I can be a fan and put my trust in Coach Mora as I have done since he got here!
 
Stray_Dog said:
You could get a really good HS kid who plays for UConn and becomes the best star QB we ever had, Guess what - he's not sticking around for 3 years! That is just it. We are not a P4 conference. He gets an offer to play with them. He is gone! I agree we need multiple QB's and I am not worried who is the best or the worst. It is not my job to weigh in on how this may or may not look. Pull up the BIG Boy Pants and let the best kid get the job. No one and I mean NO ONE deserves anything in this life. Fight for it - Get the passion for it. keep it! And I am so glad I don't have the coaching job. I prefer being on my PC with my keyboard and thinking - none of what I do here will have any affect on any decision making for UConn Football. That means I can be a fan and put my trust in Coach Mora as I have done since he got here!
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I get it. But at some point the best hs kid we might get will pass on us if the roulette wheel regularly lands on the kid with more experience. It’s great to say let the best man win if we always transfer in experienced guys whose main edge is experience. How do our hs recruits get the same experience? All I ssid is a lot of folks here drool over a Wellever, drool over the 3rd string transfer from LSU and spend all their time saying he’s no great shakes. And if that is so, then logically it says something about the hs talent we get if they can’t beat out the transfer nobody thinks is so great. Obviously you want the best guy to play. We will see what this next season brings.
 
UCFBfan said:
Need to get that man a QB who is accurate and can throw the ball to him. Not sure we currently have that on the roster right now. Land that QB and Bell's potential is limitless
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Bell is not staying, Anyway, I trust in Mora to bring in what needs to be brought in to allow all the kids on this team to live up to their greatest potential. This is his job and thankfully not mine, yours, or anyone else's job on this board!
 
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cohenzone said:
I get it. But at some point the best hs kid we might get will pass on us if the roulette wheel regularly lands on the kid with more experience. It’s great to say let the best man win if we always transfer in experienced guys whose main edge is experience. How do our hs recruits get the same experience? All I ssid is a lot of folks here drool over a Wellever, drool over the 3rd string transfer from LSU and spend all their time saying he’s no great shakes. And if that is so, then logically it says something about the hs talent we get if they can’t beat out the transfer nobody thinks is so great. Obviously you want the best guy to play. We will see what this next season brings.
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They will pass on us! That is my point! so we don't get that kid, we must make a decision and the decision has to be to get kids here with as much talent as possible. Then you let them play for it. At this level we cant look over our shoulder and wonder - as we look back in time if we made the right decision. First of all, we don't make decisions. Second we don't make decisions. I will cheer on whoever wears the uniforms for as long as they do. I wish we could get a talented kid to come here, succeed and stay for 5 years if possible. I wish UConn was the top pillar in football where the pigskin not the big orange ball was the premier sport. I wish I was a billionaire. These are all great wishes! But I trust in our coach because he has the job to drive this program and not to grant wishes! He coaches kids, his players and wants them to succeed as a team and individually. He wants classy kids with drive and talent! The specifics of those metrics are for him to think about. I simply support him any way I can. And I know he doesn't come to these message boards nor do his kids nor should they. So your talk about HS football recruits - well it reminds me of when the CT HS's wanted and loved the Uconn hire Paul P. The fossil who I laughed at up at Syracuse and then when he came here realized Karma just slapped me in the face. SO when it comes to HS and HS talent... keep this in mind. We can develop them we can mentor them. They will leave just like any other kid who does well in our system to a bigger name recognized school. Few kids will stay and that is because they believe the position they are in where they are will give them their best opportunity. Shine here and you may make the NFL. But no klid is staying here because he loves the fans atmosphere! They know when they leave, we will cheer just as loud as the next kid to wear that uniform. This is even more true in the NFL.
 
Stray_Dog said:
They will pass on us! That is my point! so we don't get that kid, we must make a decision and the decision has to be to get kids here with as much talent as possible. Then you let them play for it. At this level we cant look over our shoulder and wonder - as we look back in time if we made the right decision. First of all, we don't make decisions. Second we don't make decisions. I will cheer on whoever wears the uniforms for as long as they do. I wish we could get a talented kid to come here, succeed and stay for 5 years if possible. I wish UConn was the top pillar in football where the pigskin not the big orange ball was the premier sport. I wish I was a billionaire. These are all great wishes! But I trust in our coach because he has the job to drive this program and not to grant wishes! He coaches kids, his players and wants them to succeed as a team and individually. He wants classy kids with drive and talent! The specifics of those metrics are for him to think about. I simply support him any way I can. And I know he doesn't come to these message boards nor do his kids nor should they. So your talk about HS football recruits - well it reminds me of when the CT HS's wanted and loved the Uconn hire Paul P. The fossil who I laughed at up at Syracuse and then when he came here realized Karma just slapped me in the face. SO when it comes to HS and HS talent... keep this in mind. We can develop them we can mentor them. They will leave just like any other kid who does well in our system to a bigger name recognized school. Few kids will stay and that is because they believe the position they are in where they are will give them their best opportunity. Shine here and you may make the NFL. But no klid is staying here because he loves the fans atmosphere! They know when they leave, we will cheer just as loud as the next kid to wear that uniform. This is even more true in the NFL.
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Ok good rant.
 
cohenzone said:
Ok good rant.
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... says the guy that has been ranting about the same thing for 2 weeks.

Bottom line: the coaching staff is going to try to secure the best players they can. If that's the 5-star freshman, then that's great. If it's the transfer senior, that's great too. The best player we can secure for our team is literally what the coaches are paid for.

You need to stop with this idea that we're sending the wrong message to future high school recruits because you're just flat out wrong...
 
Stray_Dog said:
Bell is not staying, Anyway, I trust in Mora to bring in what needs to be brought in to allow all the kids on this team to live up to their greatest potential. This is his job and thankfully not mine, yours, or anyone else's job on this board!
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Do you know that or are you speculating?
 
gioff2323 said:
Do you know that or are you speculating?
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He openly declared for the portal. Yes, there is a chance he pulls a Yates and withdraws to stay, but let's be honest, the track record of players declaring for the portal only to reverse and stay is NOT in our favor. His decision to play in the bowl can be construed as an opportunity to showcase his skills for his next team. So until he clearly says he staying, it's evident he looking to leave.
 
UConnDan97 said:
... says the guy that has been ranting about the same thing for 2 weeks.

Bottom line: the coaching staff is going to try to secure the best players they can. If that's the 5-star freshman, then that's great. If it's the transfer senior, that's great too. The best player we can secure for our team is literally what the coaches are paid for.

You need to stop with this idea that we're sending the wrong message to future high school recruits because you're just flat out wrong...
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Ok. Let’s see who gets the job next year. Turner got the job, nobody loved him. He left. The transfers got the job. Nobody loved them. Arguably the best of those didn’t even come from a power conference and none of our hs recruits beat Fagnano out. I think you are flat out wrong. I agree go for the best guy. But it has to sink in with you at some point that if our hs recruits can’t beat out transfers nobody likes, then either we aren’t getting hs kids with enough talent and/or ditto transfers. Being independent is probably hurting us in the most important position. Show me the facts that say I am wrong. All I see is who is getting to play the position hardly any one has been thrilled with. .
 
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cohenzone said:
Ok. Let’s see who gets the job next year. Turner got the job, nobody loved him. He left. The transfers got the job. Nobody loved them. Arguably the best of those didn’t even come from a power conference and none of our hs recruits beat Fagnano out. I think you are flat out wrong. I agree go for the best guy. But it has to sink in with you at some point that if our hs recruits can’t beat out transfers nobody likes, then either we aren’t getting hs kids with enough talent and/or ditto transfers. Being independent is probably hurting us in the most important position. Show me the facts that say I am wrong. All I see is who is getting to play the position hardly any one has been thrilled with. .
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I love how you state "facts" and then focus on only 1 position on the football field, bringing zero facts.

Please tell me where Zion Turner transferred to and what he accomplished there (I'm not trying to kill the kid, but you brought him up). I'll save you the trouble. He went to Jacksonville State and has had a total of 1 pass attempt this year....1 pass attempt!

Fagnano and Evers are both better than him. Welliver didn't beat either one out this year, by that doesn't mean that he won't be the guy next year.

It would be easier to have these conversations with you if you actually looked up the stuff you have been ranting about...
 
UConnDan97 said:
I love how you state "facts" and then focus on only 1 position on the football field, bringing zero facts.

Please tell me where Zion Turner transferred to and what he accomplished there (I'm not trying to kill the kid, but you brought him up). I'll save you the trouble. He went to Jacksonville State and has had a total of 1 pass attempt this year....1 pass attempt!

Fagnano and Evers are both better than him. Welliver didn't beat either one out this year, by that doesn't mean that he won't be the guy next year.

It would be easier to have these conversations with you if you actually looked up the stuff you have been ranting about...
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So you both want the best guy to play, and just can’t agree that’s what you both want. I love this place.
 
uconnfan68 said:
So you both want the best guy to play, and just can’t agree that’s what you both want. I love this place.
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No, the parts we disagree on are whether or not the coaching staff is recruiting quality incoming freshman, and whether or not Independence is causing a drop in our recruiting.

Try to keep up...
 
UConnDan97 said:
Please tell me where Zion Turner transferred to and what he accomplished there (I'm not trying to kill the kid, but you brought him up). I'll save you the trouble. He went to Jacksonville State and has had a total of 1 pass attempt this year....1 pass attempt!
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The wheels on the bus go round and round…

 
huskymedic said:
The wheels on the bus go round and round…

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Again, I'm not trying to kill the kid. I wish him the best. But... he's not a top-level G5 QB. Both of our starters were undefeated against the G5 this year. It's a simple as that...
 
UConnDan97 said:
I love how you state "facts" and then focus on only 1 position on the football field, bringing zero facts.

Please tell me where Zion Turner transferred to and what he accomplished there (I'm not trying to kill the kid, but you brought him up). I'll save you the trouble. He went to Jacksonville State and has had a total of 1 pass attempt this year....1 pass attempt!

Fagnano and Evers are both better than him. Welliver didn't beat either one out this year, by that doesn't mean that he won't be the guy next year.

It would be easier to have these conversations with you if you actually looked up the stuff you have been ranting about...
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You just proved my point. You seem clueless. I said maybe Wellever will beat them out. Turner could not beat out the transfers everyone craps on, so obviously we didn’t get a hs kid who could beat out mediocre transfers which is what I said, your JState thing isn’t proof of a thing that refutes what I said. it reinforces it. And neither Wellever or McDonald beat anyone out for that matter.

So if none of our QBs who actually see the field light anyone’s fire, it doesn’t mean the coaches aren’t trying, it suggests we have a hard time getting the quality of QB we all want. And what does not getting the kind of player we want at QB have to do with how we recruit other positions? Do you know what a non sequitur is? QBs kind of are important. As I said, maybe Wellever or one of the hs recruits will get the job and do well. Do you think being an Indy has anything to do with the quality of QB we get. We probably only get one really good year from a hs recruit anyway before they jump.
 
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