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2024 Recruiting: Tarris Reed Jr.

It seems apparent by their actions that they are in the portal looking for a starting big. They wouldn’t be having contact with players of that caliber otherwise.

I wrote out what I meant in the first post specifically to avoid a debate over semantics.
 
Good free throw rates tend to indicate potential for improvement from bad to mediocre three point shooters.

I don’t see how we could reasonably use SJ as a 3pt threat in any capacity.
Clingan was by the numbers a bad free throw shooter.

He will be at the very least a mediocre 3 point shooter.

I’m not saying Samson will.

But judging a young bigs shooting potential by his free throw shooting is tricky

Most bigs struggle from the line early in their development

This rule applies more to guards imo
 
Samson needs to live in the weight room the next 6 months.
No, he needs to develop his skills and get reps. His quickness with his size his best quality. He shouldnt be playing the 5.
 
Two things :

1] It may be that the timing of Clingan's very immediate draft declaration is connected to Terris Reed's OV this weekend. I would think that the coaching staff plans most of this stuff.
2] I don't think Samson Johnson has a body type that will accept enough pounds or muscle that will ever turn him into a bruiser down low. Singare either for that matter. We need a starting center with strength and power that can control the post like Adama did, or Clingan.
 
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Samson should gain another 15 pounds, he'll still be the most explosive athlete on the court, but he needs to handle physical bigs better.

And be an offensive threat
 
Two things :

1] It may be that the timing of Clingan's very immediate draft declaration is connected to Terris Reed's OV this weekend
2] I don't think Samson Johnson has a body type that will accept enough pounds or muscle that will ever turn him into a bruiser down low. Singare either for that matter. We need a starting center with strength and power that can control the post like Adama did, or Clingan.

I am sure the staff knew DC was leaving and they have been interested in Reed well before DC announced. I had posted about our interest in Reed on March 26th. Thanks Trilly!
 
And be an offensive threat

He is an incredibly valuable offensive threat. His play style and skill set are not as advertised but he is one of the best rim runners around. Extremely fast and explosive and the defense needs to be 100% aware of him at all times or they get dunked on. I would love for him to develop a consistent jump hook but we don’t need him emulating McHale or launching 3s.
 
Clingan was by the numbers a bad free throw shooter.

He will be at the very least a mediocre 3 point shooter.

I’m not saying Samson will.

But judging a young bigs shooting potential by his free throw shooting is tricky

Most bigs struggle from the line early in their development

This rule applies more to guards imo

Clingan has a nice but inconsistent free throw technique. He can shoot flat which imo accounts for the majority of his misses. I think he will be a decent three point shooter for a guy his size/position.
 
Reed is currently 10th best rated center on 247. Maybe higher transfers are bag shopping. Maybe Reed’s potential is what we want. My take is kid has not played in a complex offense. His learning curve might be steep. Added to his fundamentals his recruitment is a head scratcher as the starter necessary for a 3 peat. We get a visit from Cliff or Ballo I’ll change my position.

It’s not his fault he didn’t play in a complex offense it’s Howards. We all hear about the certain type of players Danny and his staff look for to fit the culture they’ve built. He averaged 9/7 on a crap team my guess is they see something that potentially is a fit. He may take the visit and they may hold off to let others visit who knows. I do know if he visits and they offer they’re sure he’s going to be a better player under their tutelage and an excellent teammate.
 
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This is always a factor to consider.

His play-style does also complement Samson's. He's big and strong and physical. A bit more below the rim and a great rebounder.
Good Eval. He will also have 2-3 years of eligibility to grow in our specific offense.
 
Watching some Michigan for Reed. We're so spoiled. I'm going to have to take a shower.

This is disgusting. (Note Reed is the rebounder, not the shooter).
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There was one possession inbetween these
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Watching some Michigan for Reed. We're so spoiled. I'm going to have to take a shower.

This is disgusting. (Note Reed is the rebounder, not the shooter).
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There was one possession inbetween these
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I did some digging earlier. It's shocking how bad their offense was. Coach just lets them get away with ineffecient, selfish crap.
 
I get the impression theydon’t want to appear to be recruiting over Samson. This seems to be a complementary player who has muscle to play against more physical centers.
Well if they want to win another Championship They will have to recruit over Samson. He is a great backup but to start he is going to need 3 or 4 inches and another 30 lbs.
 
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This kid may well be a talent but I don't believe we can get a clear read on him from film and stats from his play for Michigan. Most of his games were against Big10 schools. It isn't like he was facing top level competition.
 
Just can’t believe people think we’re purposely going after backups rather than starters so we don’t hurt Samson’s feelings.
Yep your right. People on this site make me laugh sometimes with some of their comments. You must recruit the best available if you want to stay on top. I think Samson knows he is not big enough right now to be our starter. He wants to win another championship.
 
Rivals has him as the 19th ranked portal player and 5th ranked center. On3 has him as 35th and 7th.

Whatever the case, we need bigs, even rotational players. Samson is 6-10 and thin, and that’s all we’re returning for size. Singare didn’t play, Jaylen and Jayden are 6-7.

I like portal players from power conferences. Cam worked out well as a player from the worst program in the big 10.
 
No, he needs to develop his skills and get reps. His quickness with his size his best quality. He shouldnt be playing the 5.
Well, he's not going to be playing the 4 unless he can shoot the 3 at a 35% clip.
 
Free throws and 3 point shots are not at all the same. Even with that he’s hasn’t shown a 3 point shot at all
That's just not the offense we run. We run constant movement so that we get as many shot options in the shot clock as imaginable to our 1-4's or a good pick and roll option to our 5 or dump down low. Shooters shoot and our PF/C (5) cleans up down low and keeps their offense to the high FG% options.
 
This one doesn’t make sense to me if we have our pick of the litter. His turnover % is insane, 22%! he does not have the best hands. Maybe Hurley feels we needs some girth/rebounding/toughness inside he takes up a ton of space laterally with his broad shoulders and long arms. This the 3rd 6’9ish broad shouldered 4/5 we’ve been linked to.
Look at the coaching that he probably received in Michigans "Go out and just get it done" Offense. A year under UCOnn tutelage and he could be all-conference. Remember he averaged close to 10/8.
 
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They are clearly recruiting over Samson. Reed Jr. is being recruited as a starting center and that should come as a surprise to no one.

Samson will stay and be a candidate for 6th-man of the year if he keeps his improving. We need a starting big.
You don’t have to respond to every post where Samson is mentioned. We all know your feelings on the young man by now. Maybe sit a couple out just to mix it up.
 
Look at the coaching that he probably received in Michigans "Go out and just get it done" Offense. A year under UCOnn tutelage and he could be all-conference. Remember he averaged close to 10/8.
This is very true. Howard is good at attracting talent but not good at coaching or developing. He’d probably be a stud here.
 
It’s not his fault he didn’t play in a complex offense it’s Howards. We all hear about the certain type of players Danny and his staff look for to fit the culture they’ve built. He averaged 9/7 on a crap team my guess is they see something that potentially is a fit. He may take the visit and they may hold off to let others visit who knows. I do know if he visits and they offer they’re sure he’s going to be a better player under their tutelage and an excellent teammate.
Why wouldn’t they recruit over Samson? We’re trying to win games, not collect friendship bracelets. Samson will get an opportunity to win a starting job. That’s all he can ask for. If he thinks he automatically wins a starting job due to seniority, then I don’t know what team he’s been playing on.
I do not know if the coaches agree with your assessment that we have to recruit over Johnson. I understand your positions and my position is he is not a Samson Dunk for the starting role.

If it was Ballo or Cliff coming for an interview this weekend then that would be overwhelming evidence that Samson is being recruited over. I have no problem with that. I never defended Samson in the manner you posit nomar. I just don't see how we can get a read on Reed from the information we have about him. My take from that information is he's just as likely to be a backup as the starter. I have as much question about him as Samson.
 
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