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Edward Sargent said:
Went to a practice round Monday and we walked the entire course and I am not sure what you mean by not technical.
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From what I read it's more of a target golf type course. Which isn't a criticism. There just isn't much on the creative side of the thinking. If you don't like the term "not technical" that's fine by me.

Doesn't necessarily favor a fade or a draw. Long distance isn't as important as correct distance off the tee. You won't see risk/reward tee shots where the players will bomb it and hack out of the rough up to the green. This won't be Bryson at Winged Foot. Around the greens it's more a traditional US Open course with taller rough. There isn't much decision making as to pitch, chip, bump and run or putt. You have to flop that ball over the tall stuff.
 
Chin Diesel said:
From what I read it's more of a target golf type course. Which isn't a criticism. There just isn't much on the creative side of the thinking. If you don't like the term "not technical" that's fine by me.

Doesn't necessarily favor a fade or a draw. Long distance isn't as important as correct distance off the tee. You won't see risk/reward tee shots where the players will bomb it and hack out of the rough up to the green. This won't be Bryson at Winged Foot. Around the greens it's more a traditional US Open course with taller rough. There isn't much decision making as to pitch, chip, bump and run or putt. You have to flop that ball over the tall stuff.
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Interesting take. I see it as allowing a lot more creativity on how to attack most holes. The small greens do put a premium on positioning, but on most holes a competent scrambler can par, especially one with solid bunker play. You'll still see bombers bombing away on about a third of the holes, imho.
 
storrsroars said:
Interesting take. I see it as allowing a lot more creativity on how to attack most holes. The small greens do put a premium on positioning, but on most holes a competent scrambler can par, especially one with solid bunker play. You'll still see bombers bombing away on about a third of the holes, imho.
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Some of the front of the greens are shaved but left and right is pretty thick stuff
What I meant was due to small greens there isn't the choice of coming in low and hop and a skip up to the hole. Ball needs to come in high and soft and plop in to place.
Controlling spin will be crucial. Most of the iron shots in to the greens require one specific type of golf shot and either you hit it or you are in bad shape
 
I have a GolfNow VIP membership and was suddenly rewarded with 12 free months of Peacock.

Watching the featureds in the morning.
 
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Chin Diesel said:
Some of the front of the greens are shaved but left and right is pretty thick stuff
What I meant was due to small greens there isn't the choice of coming in low and hop and a skip up to the hole. Ball needs to come in high and soft and plop in to place.
Controlling spin will be crucial. Most of the iron shots in to the greens require one specific type of golf shot and either you hit it or you are in bad shape
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When I think of 'target golf', I think of Widow's Walk in MA, some of the Fazio layouts, and more specifically Ko'olau in Oahu (now closed, a pity since it was like playing in Jurassic Park). Positioning off the tee is crucial, lots of "designated" landing spots (as opposed to "preferred" for your type of game). Difficult water or hazard carries forcing layups, etc.
 
Dang, Ancer withdrew due to illness. Patton Kizzire took his place.

Fowler must've been rooting for Speith to drop out as Rickie was next man up.
 
I'm pulling for my mechanic in Texas - Austin Greaser
 
HuskyHawk said:
Just don't try to fly in or out of Logan. What a catastrophe. Can't believe they closed a tunnel while hosting the U.S. Open and NBA finals.
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So the consensus picks in this thread are:
3 votes: Rory, Homa, Zalatoris, JT
2 votes: Fitzpatrick, Xander
1 vote each: Scheffler, Burns, Greaser, Sung-jae, Conners, Lowry, Varner, Hovland, LFinau, List, Smith, Ancer (WD), Davis (DNQ)

By typical BY golf prediction standards, this is amazing.
 
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storrsroars said:
So the consensus picks in this thread are:
3 votes: Rory, Homa, Zalatoris, JT
2 votes: Fitzpatrick, Xander
1 vote each: Scheffler, Burns, Greaser, Sung-jae, Conners, Lowry, Varner, Hovland, LFinau, List, Smith, Ancer (WD), Davis (DNQ)

By typical BY golf prediction standards, this is amazing.
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Well, a little less amazing that I originally stated. Sungjae, Conners, Lowry and Varner all dropped below the cut line with the leaders going to -5. But all the multiple vote getters are safely in and contending.

Four amateurs made the field of 64, including Greaser.
 
Do they set tougher pins tomorrow? 23 guys under par is a lot for this tournament
 
NJHusky said:
Do they set tougher pins tomorrow? 23 guys under par is a lot for this tournament
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But not totally uncommon in past decade or so. Pebble Beach, Congressional, Pinehurst, and Erin Hills all has similar #s of players under par (or more) at this point.
 
storrsroars said:
But not totally uncommon in past decade or so. Pebble Beach, Congressional, Pinehurst, and Erin Hills all has similar #s of players under par (or more) at this point.
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Thx. My memory not that good
 
NJHusky said:
Do they set tougher pins tomorrow? 23 guys under par is a lot for this tournament
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Actually, quite similar to the last few years after two rounds:
2021 -5 lead, 13 players under par, cut was also +4.
2020 -4 lead, 11 players under par, cut was +6
2019 was significantly lower, -9 lead, cut +2
2018 was the last US Open that was really tough - winner was +1.
2017 winner was -16

I think the days of fighting for par in the US Open may be a thing of the past. These guys are just too long and good.
 
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jleves said:
Actually, quite similar to the last few years after two rounds:
2021 -5 lead, 13 players under par, cut was also +4.
2020 -4 lead, 11 players under par, cut was +6
2019 was significantly lower, -9 lead, cut +2
2018 was the last US Open that was really tough - winner was +1.
2017 winner was -16

I think the days of fighting for par in the US Open may be a thing of the past. These guys are just too long and good.
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Not to be a jerk but 13 and 11 players under par is nearly 2x and more than 2x compared to 23
 
NJHusky said:
Not to be a jerk but 13 and 11 players under par is nearly 2x and more than 2x compared to 23
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No doubt. I was just surprised that the low score and cuts have been similar. I do like that there are a lot more players packed in contention for sure. I'd much rather have 30 guys within 5 shots than 15 or so.

The weekends for the last two have been tougher - scores not going down much.

Hopefully a good challenge for the weekend.

I think your original thought is what I like: Make it a challenge to shoot par golf. If the weekend shapes up that way, I'll be happy.
 
NJHusky said:
Do they set tougher pins tomorrow? 23 guys under par is a lot for this tournament
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Yes. Rahm said they were benign placements so far. USGA could have made it so much tougher.
 
NJHusky said:
Didn’t hear that comment. Maybe some carnage today?
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Well, temps are so supposed to max out at maybe 70 degrees today. Winds will be 10-20 mph. Some rain overnight tonight and then temps in the high 50's tomorrow. They can shave those greens as slick as they want today and not have to worry about burning them out.

Going to look more like a British Open for parts of this weekend.

So, carnage today? I think that is in order.

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Pin placements and weather will determine the scores. We were on 6 for about 10 groups yesterday in the morning. Par 3, 165. You would have thought the pros would eat it up, but the wind was blowing and the green is tough. We saw 1 birdie (by Phil) and many bogies. In the later afternoon, I saw there was a hole in one and birdies as the wind died down. Hole was ranked 11th on Thursday and 5th on Friday.

I have played The Country Club 3 times and I was there for the last US Open and Ryder Cup. The course this year is a different layout and TCC has really removed trees from the course and it was very noticeable on 6 which probably meant the wind will be more of a factor if it is windy.

Funny story. The first time I played TCC was before the Ryder Cup and the rough was playing up. On 1 on the regular course, I hit my drive into the rough and clubbed up on my second shot and I hit a miserable shot. The caddie came over to me and discreetly said this is US Open rough and even the pros can’t hit it well out of it. The goal is to get the ball back into the fairway and he was right.
 
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storrsroars said:
If the future of televised sports is Peacock, I'm giving up watching sports.
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I watched on USA Network early in the day and switched over to NBC for the afternoon. I read some stuff online that Peacock's coverage was atrocious.

Most common comments was "why can't everyone just copy what the Master's does with their steaming?" At times it seems like trying to innovate is more important than being good.

Regardless, I don't generally use advanced capabilities like feature groups, watching a specific hole or whatever. I'm fine with the broadcast and I haven't had issues with either USA Network or NBC.
 
Guy I'm rooting for made the cut by 1 stroke, is +2 today, and has climbed a bunch of spots on the standings. Was quite windy in the Boston area today, definitely going to make it challenging.

Of the 16 guys who are through 9 holes so far, only 1 under par for the day. (Of course, it's the lower standings guys through 9 so far).
 
Chin Diesel said:
Matt Fitzpatrick won 2013 US Amateur at this course and is ranked #18 in the world. Don' see him listed but he's worth a look.
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Excellent call here. I never could find him listed on the Vegas Odd's page....
 
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