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Does Tulsa really think they can do better than this with some retread or green assistant?

 

[nelsonmuntz]

These early season firings show how stupid many of these athletic directors really are. Alberts canned Frost and ate $7.5 million of a buyout so he could lose 49-14 to Oklahoma. Money well spent. Alberts should be fired if Nebraska does not beat Indiana on 10/1, because then Alberts will have just pissed away $7.5 million in three weeks for no return.

I also don't get the point of firing Herm Edwards now. He isn't the greatest coach ever, but he is OK and Arizona State is just an OK program.

People who think it is OK to fire a coach off one bad loss have likely never been in a position of authority or leadership, nor do they understand economics. If coaches think that you are a hair trigger AD, then two things will happen: 1) some coaches won't come play for you, and 2) those that are willing to come will demand more money and bigger buyouts. Coaches at more stable programs will use the fact that coaches at Nebraska/ASU/(name your wannabe program that chews through coaches) are always on the hot seat against those programs in recruiting, so some of the top prospects won't come. It becomes a self-reinforcing cycle of competitive and financial failure for the program.

Bump. All Nebraska did by firing Frost early in the season was piss away the season and $7.5 million in return for nothing.

ASU hired a coordinator who would have been available at year end, and Georgia Tech still doesn’t have a coach.

All three hair trigger, early season firings were proven to be stupid.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Cincinnati is about to become a much harder job moving to the Big 12 compared to playing in the AAC. Don't forget, Texas and Oklahoma will probably be there for 2 more years making it even more difficult. Fickell is moving on while he is still a hot coach as he may not be in a year or 2.

Most coaches do well at Cincinnati. At some point, maybe it is not the coaches, but the job.

Wisconsin is a good job, but Fickell should have waited for something better. How long before Day leaves for the NFL or Florida fires its coach again? Chryst had Wisconsin about as good as Wisconsin is capable of being, and he is looking for a job now. It is close to impossible to go from where Wisconsin is now and break into the next level of success.

 

[uconndogs]

Does Tulsa really think they can do better than this with some retread or green assistant?

College football is insanity and this is just a scant piece of evidence.

 

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[Skiblets]

Is there a bigger shizz show than Auburn?

 

[UConnJim]

Most coaches do well at Cincinnati. At some point, maybe it is not the coaches, but the job.

Let's call it like it is. Cincinnati was in the AAC which is a pretty weak conference relative to the Big 12. First, let's compare the schedule strength of Cincinnati (AAC going to Big 12) vs. West Virginia (Big 12) during the Fickell years:


2017: Cincy: 75, WVU: 29
2018: Cincy: 90, WVU: 36
2019: Cincy: 67, WVU: 8
2020: Cincy: 91, WVU: 55
2021: Cincy: 71, WVU: 13
2022: Cincy: 75, WVU: 7

Clearly, Cincinnati is going to begin playing a much harder schedule with the move to the Big 12.

Fickell was 57-18 at Cincinnati, but his record against ranked opponents? 5-11. Cincinnati will face more ranked teams in the Big 12 than they did in the AAC which will mean more losses.

As for resources, Cincinnati will be below average in the Big 12. Currently, Cincinnati does not have an indoor football practice facility although one is planned. And, the current head football coach salary is at the top of the AAC, but it will be middle of the pack or lower in the Big 12.

Bottom line is that Cincinnati is going to be a much harder job in the Big 12 and there will be more losses similar to what happened when WVU moved to the Big 12 from the Big East, even though the Big East (based on conference ratings) was a stronger conference than the AAC.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

Let's call it like it is. Cincinnati was in the AAC which is a pretty weak conference relative to the Big 12. First, let's compare the schedule strength of Cincinnati (AAC going to Big 12) vs. West Virginia (Big 12) during the Fickell years:


2017: Cincy: 75, WVU: 29
2018: Cincy: 90, WVU: 36
2019: Cincy: 67, WVU: 8
2020: Cincy: 91, WVU: 55
2021: Cincy: 71, WVU: 13
2022: Cincy: 75, WVU: 7

Clearly, Cincinnati is going to begin playing a much harder schedule with the move to the Big 12.

Fickell was 57-18 at Cincinnati, but his record against ranked opponents? 5-11. Cincinnati will face more ranked teams in the Big 12 than they did in the AAC which will mean more losses.

As for resources, Cincinnati will be below average in the Big 12. Currently, Cincinnati does not have an indoor football practice facility although one is planned. And, the current head football coach salary is at the top of the AAC, but it will be middle of the pack or lower in the Big 12.

Bottom line is that Cincinnati is going to be a much harder job in the Big 12 and there will be more losses similar to what happened when WVU moved to the Big 12 from the Big East, even though the Big East (based on conference ratings) was a stronger conference than the AAC.

Fair....but don't forget the Big 12 will be without Texas and Oklahoma. And....who knows what other changes.

 

[UConnJim]

Fair....but don't forget the Big 12 will be without Texas and Oklahoma. And....who knows what other changes.

As of now, Texas and Oklahoma will be in the conference the next 2 seasons.

Also, if you use the Sagarin ratings, Cincinnati was ranked 2nd in the AAC and they would have been ranked 9th in the Big 12. It's a much tougher job going forward.

 

[businesslawyer]

Bump. All Nebraska did by firing Frost early in the season was piss away the season and $7.5 million in return for nothing.

ASU hired a coordinator who would have been available at year end, and Georgia Tech still doesn’t have a coach.

All three hair trigger, early season firings were proven to be stupid.

Early season firings are normally not about making the team better during the year, or even about getting a jump on who is going to come in at the end of the year. They rarely do and an AD can make phone calls to an agent, directly or indirectly, while a coach is focusing on the season somewhere else. They are about getting the boosters/fans off the AD's back.

 

[fleaflicker]

Interesting to follow all the coaches being fired. Old rule applies, ¨can´t fire the team, so fire the coach¨! Alum paying out huge sums to those coaches who signed $$$$$$$$$ contracts.
Looking to UConn......What a great staff the University of Connecticut has leading it´s sports program. Just bringing home the hardware, {wood I believe} from the PK tourney against some of the best teams {men and women} in the country. Hockey on a roll like never before, and FB about to go to a bowl game. Baseball always competitive as is soccer and girls field hockey. Track and Field strong as well. Great time to be a fan of UConn.
Letś get behind the whole UConn sports program and a big shout out to AD Benedict. Great reading all of the positive comments on the Boneyard...

 

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[don356]

Most coaches do well at Cincinnati. At some point, maybe it is not the coaches, but the job.

Wisconsin is a good job, but Fickell should have waited for something better. How long before Day leaves for the NFL or Florida fires its coach again? Chryst had Wisconsin about as good as Wisconsin is capable of being, and he is looking for a job now. It is close to impossible to go from where Wisconsin is now and break into the next level of success.

My guess if he wants to move up to a head coach gig it's Brian Hartline Osu's top recruiter to lose. He knows the guys for the most part Cincy has and also has recruited, and is much more charismatic than Fickell. That would be a gutt punch to Osu to lose him this week. He also would likely be able to garner a veteran staff from all the ex Osu guys out there including possibly keeping Tressel the dc. I'm not sold on Fickell's overall game day coaching, but he gets players and Hartline has an even higher ceiling in that regard. It will also be curious if they look at Garret Riley(Lincoln's brother) who is OC at Tcu. Very young, but the Bengals have Zac Taylor who isn't much older. Deion Sanders may be a long shot as well, but he did spend several years in baseball there and was popular. He'll be a hit anywhere he goes. As for Wisky and Fickell, they are getting a very good coach, but when the B10 goes to no divisions they will be butting heads with everyone so who knows how it works out. No more weak western division or whatever goofy name they call it now.

 

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[huskymedic]

Deion Sanders says Colorado has offered him its head coaching job; "They're not the only ones"

Coach Prime has resurrected Jackson State football in two full seasons, playing again for the SWAC title this weekend

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[nelsonmuntz]

Let's call it like it is. Cincinnati was in the AAC which is a pretty weak conference relative to the Big 12. First, let's compare the schedule strength of Cincinnati (AAC going to Big 12) vs. West Virginia (Big 12) during the Fickell years:


2017: Cincy: 75, WVU: 29
2018: Cincy: 90, WVU: 36
2019: Cincy: 67, WVU: 8
2020: Cincy: 91, WVU: 55
2021: Cincy: 71, WVU: 13
2022: Cincy: 75, WVU: 7

Clearly, Cincinnati is going to begin playing a much harder schedule with the move to the Big 12.

Fickell was 57-18 at Cincinnati, but his record against ranked opponents? 5-11. Cincinnati will face more ranked teams in the Big 12 than they did in the AAC which will mean more losses.

As for resources, Cincinnati will be below average in the Big 12. Currently, Cincinnati does not have an indoor football practice facility although one is planned. And, the current head football coach salary is at the top of the AAC, but it will be middle of the pack or lower in the Big 12.

Bottom line is that Cincinnati is going to be a much harder job in the Big 12 and there will be more losses similar to what happened when WVU moved to the Big 12 from the Big East, even though the Big East (based on conference ratings) was a stronger conference than the AAC.

Cincinnati will also have more revenue to invest in the program, more access to top bowl games and a clearer path to the CFP than it did in the American, which is a big benefit in recruiting. USF, Cincinnati and Louisville all catapulted up competitively when they jumped from CUSA to the Big East.

The schools that have struggled in conference moves were ones that were not looking to invest in their programs, like Miami, Boston College, Rutgers, Colorado and Nebraska. Or programs that weren't that good to begin with, like Missouri and Maryland, but even those programs haven't done that bad. WVU under Holgerson was a bit of a drop from where it was in the Big East, but not a huge drop. Neal Brown is just a bad coach. Pitt and Syracuse were pretty similar in their new conferences to what they were in their old. Utah and TCU have done fine upgrading conferences.

The Big 12 doesn't have an established pecking order, which means it is open for recruiting. I believe city based colleges will have an advantage in an NIL world, so Cincinnati, with its large business community, is well positioned to compete for players. Practice facilities? Is it 1995? Players want cash in their pocket more than they want fancy practice facilities.

 

[Nostical]

The students in Boulder are hyped up for Prime Time!!

 

[Nostical]

Don't see this as an upgrade. More like a wash.

A wash? Who'd you rather have as the face of your program?

 

[UConnJim]

Cincinnati will also have more revenue to invest in the program, more access to top bowl games and a clearer path to the CFP than it did in the American, which is a big benefit in recruiting. USF, Cincinnati and Louisville all catapulted up competitively when they jumped from CUSA to the Big East.

Louisville, USF, and Cincinnati were playing schedules that were comparable to a Big East schedule when they joined the Big East. In the year before they joined, Louisville played Kentucky, North Carolina, Miami, USF, Cincinnati, East Carolina, TCU, Boise St.,... and finished 11-1 and ranked #6. Louisville was ready to compete. The Brian Kelly hire is what catapulted Cincinnati. USF's Big East record was 22-34 so they never really got it going.

The change from the AAC to the Big 12 is much greater than CUSA to the Big East in 2005.

 

[huskymedic]

Is there a bigger shizz show than Auburn?

Guess a bigger booster won?

 

[noeynox]

A wash? Who'd you rather have as the face of your program?
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What is this, a Chippendale audition? The guy who wins. Bob Diaco was a "face". I stand by what I said, he got Wisconsin in the B1G championship game 3 times. B1G is moving away from Divisions supposedly. That will make it harder for Wisconsin, not easier to get there.

Fickell may do great there, but you guys act like Chryst was Randy Edsall.

 

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The recap:

 

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