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Bump. All Nebraska did by firing Frost early in the season was piss away the season and $7.5 million in return for nothing.

ASU hired a coordinator who would have been available at year end, and Georgia Tech still doesn’t have a coach.

All three hair trigger, early season firings were proven to be stupid.
Early season firings are normally not about making the team better during the year, or even about getting a jump on who is going to come in at the end of the year. They rarely do and an AD can make phone calls to an agent, directly or indirectly, while a coach is focusing on the season somewhere else. They are about getting the boosters/fans off the AD's back.
 
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Interesting to follow all the coaches being fired. Old rule applies, ¨can´t fire the team, so fire the coach¨! Alum paying out huge sums to those coaches who signed $$$$$$$$$ contracts.
Looking to UConn......What a great staff the University of Connecticut has leading it´s sports program. Just bringing home the hardware, {wood I believe} from the PK tourney against some of the best teams {men and women} in the country. Hockey on a roll like never before, and FB about to go to a bowl game. Baseball always competitive as is soccer and girls field hockey. Track and Field strong as well. Great time to be a fan of UConn.
Letś get behind the whole UConn sports program and a big shout out to AD Benedict. Great reading all of the positive comments on the Boneyard...
 
Most coaches do well at Cincinnati. At some point, maybe it is not the coaches, but the job.

Wisconsin is a good job, but Fickell should have waited for something better. How long before Day leaves for the NFL or Florida fires its coach again? Chryst had Wisconsin about as good as Wisconsin is capable of being, and he is looking for a job now. It is close to impossible to go from where Wisconsin is now and break into the next level of success.
My guess if he wants to move up to a head coach gig it's Brian Hartline Osu's top recruiter to lose. He knows the guys for the most part Cincy has and also has recruited, and is much more charismatic than Fickell. That would be a gutt punch to Osu to lose him this week. He also would likely be able to garner a veteran staff from all the ex Osu guys out there including possibly keeping Tressel the dc. I'm not sold on Fickell's overall game day coaching, but he gets players and Hartline has an even higher ceiling in that regard. It will also be curious if they look at Garret Riley(Lincoln's brother) who is OC at Tcu. Very young, but the Bengals have Zac Taylor who isn't much older. Deion Sanders may be a long shot as well, but he did spend several years in baseball there and was popular. He'll be a hit anywhere he goes. As for Wisky and Fickell, they are getting a very good coach, but when the B10 goes to no divisions they will be butting heads with everyone so who knows how it works out. No more weak western division or whatever goofy name they call it now.
 
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Let's call it like it is. Cincinnati was in the AAC which is a pretty weak conference relative to the Big 12. First, let's compare the schedule strength of Cincinnati (AAC going to Big 12) vs. West Virginia (Big 12) during the Fickell years:


2017: Cincy: 75, WVU: 29
2018: Cincy: 90, WVU: 36
2019: Cincy: 67, WVU: 8
2020: Cincy: 91, WVU: 55
2021: Cincy: 71, WVU: 13
2022: Cincy: 75, WVU: 7

Clearly, Cincinnati is going to begin playing a much harder schedule with the move to the Big 12.

Fickell was 57-18 at Cincinnati, but his record against ranked opponents? 5-11. Cincinnati will face more ranked teams in the Big 12 than they did in the AAC which will mean more losses.

As for resources, Cincinnati will be below average in the Big 12. Currently, Cincinnati does not have an indoor football practice facility although one is planned. And, the current head football coach salary is at the top of the AAC, but it will be middle of the pack or lower in the Big 12.

Bottom line is that Cincinnati is going to be a much harder job in the Big 12 and there will be more losses similar to what happened when WVU moved to the Big 12 from the Big East, even though the Big East (based on conference ratings) was a stronger conference than the AAC.

Cincinnati will also have more revenue to invest in the program, more access to top bowl games and a clearer path to the CFP than it did in the American, which is a big benefit in recruiting. USF, Cincinnati and Louisville all catapulted up competitively when they jumped from CUSA to the Big East.

The schools that have struggled in conference moves were ones that were not looking to invest in their programs, like Miami, Boston College, Rutgers, Colorado and Nebraska. Or programs that weren't that good to begin with, like Missouri and Maryland, but even those programs haven't done that bad. WVU under Holgerson was a bit of a drop from where it was in the Big East, but not a huge drop. Neal Brown is just a bad coach. Pitt and Syracuse were pretty similar in their new conferences to what they were in their old. Utah and TCU have done fine upgrading conferences.

The Big 12 doesn't have an established pecking order, which means it is open for recruiting. I believe city based colleges will have an advantage in an NIL world, so Cincinnati, with its large business community, is well positioned to compete for players. Practice facilities? Is it 1995? Players want cash in their pocket more than they want fancy practice facilities.
 
Don't see this as an upgrade. More like a wash.
A wash? Who'd you rather have as the face of your program?
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Cincinnati will also have more revenue to invest in the program, more access to top bowl games and a clearer path to the CFP than it did in the American, which is a big benefit in recruiting. USF, Cincinnati and Louisville all catapulted up competitively when they jumped from CUSA to the Big East.
Louisville, USF, and Cincinnati were playing schedules that were comparable to a Big East schedule when they joined the Big East. In the year before they joined, Louisville played Kentucky, North Carolina, Miami, USF, Cincinnati, East Carolina, TCU, Boise St.,... and finished 11-1 and ranked #6. Louisville was ready to compete. The Brian Kelly hire is what catapulted Cincinnati. USF's Big East record was 22-34 so they never really got it going.

The change from the AAC to the Big 12 is much greater than CUSA to the Big East in 2005.
 
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A wash? Who'd you rather have as the face of your program?
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What is this, a Chippendale audition? The guy who wins. Bob Diaco was a "face". I stand by what I said, he got Wisconsin in the B1G championship game 3 times. B1G is moving away from Divisions supposedly. That will make it harder for Wisconsin, not easier to get there.

Fickell may do great there, but you guys act like Chryst was Randy Edsall.
 
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What is this, a Chippendale audition? The guy who wins. Bob Diaco was a "face". I stand by what I said, he got Wisconsin in the B1G championship game 3 times. B1G is moving away from Divisions supposedly. That will make it harder for Wisconsin, not easier to get there.

Fickell may do great there, but you guys act like Chryst was Randy Edsall.
I do think Fickell will do better than Chryst...but Chryst did do a pretty good job. I don't think he should have been fired. Chryst won division titles on the very weak side of the B1G. His teams weren't national title contenders...but they were good. I think Fickell will have Wiscy in the national title hunt.

What's weird is the timing of the firing. Everyone said it was because they wanted a chance to ensure Leonard would be the guy and they didn't want to lose him. Did they lose confidence in Leonard's ability to lead? They didn't need to fire Chryst early to get Fickell.

Or was that the plan all along.... early in the season they somehow knew Fickell was interested and they fired Chryst when the team was struggling in the beginning of the year because if the team turned it around it would be harder to convince the fans that firing Chryst makes sense?

Who knows...but I do think it's an upgrade. Not a huge upgrade....but an upgrade nonetheless.
 
I do think Fickell will do better than Chryst...but Chryst did do a pretty good job. I don't think he should have been fired. Chryst won division titles on the very weak side of the B1G. His teams weren't national title contenders...but they were good. I think Fickell will have Wiscy in the national title hunt.

What's weird is the timing of the firing. Everyone said it was because they wanted a chance to ensure Leonard would be the guy and they didn't want to lose him. Did they lose confidence in Leonard's ability to lead? They didn't need to fire Chryst early to get Fickell.

Or was that the plan all along.... early in the season they somehow knew Fickell was interested and they fired Chryst when the team was struggling in the beginning of the year because if the team turned it around it would be harder to convince the fans that firing Chryst makes sense?

Who knows...but I do think it's an upgrade. Not a huge upgrade....but an upgrade nonetheless.
My cousin's ex is a Badger involved in the booster program, such as it is. She claims Leonard had a 'mandate' of bowl eligibility due to his extensive time already with the program in a position of influence. The administration was not satisfied with his performance, point blank period and views Fickel a a superior option. Time will tell.
 
Louisville, USF, and Cincinnati were playing schedules that were comparable to a Big East schedule when they joined the Big East. In the year before they joined, Louisville played Kentucky, North Carolina, Miami, USF, Cincinnati, East Carolina, TCU, Boise St.,... and finished 11-1 and ranked #6. Louisville was ready to compete. The Brian Kelly hire is what catapulted Cincinnati. USF's Big East record was 22-34 so they never really got it going.

The change from the AAC to the Big 12 is much greater than CUSA to the Big East in 2005.

I don't talk college sports with people who think CUSA was equal to the Big East. Moving on.
 
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I don't talk college sports with people who think CUSA was equal to the Big East. Moving on.
CUSA is equal to trash. UCONN will probably never be a football power, should stay with a schedule similar to this year until expansion somewhere takes football only. Leaving Big East hoops would be a mistake unless Big 10 calls. By then it might be the Big 25.
 
Ask the fan base at Pitt or Wisc and they’ll tell you he was just like edsall - who btw won 2 BE titles in his time here. I don’t get your fixation on chryst - he beat out iowa, mn, Ill, neb., nw, and Purdue 37.5% of the time. They expect more there in a post-Alvarez world. I believe fickell can deliver on that while upgrading the style of play.
Time will tell. Guy had 71% win percentage there. Lol at Edsall being anywhere near his level. Gonna talk about winning the BE with 8-4, records while knocking the B1G Western division? It's not a fixation it's an observation that winning 70 percent of your games in that league is damn good. Good for them for aspiring to be better but what is Fickell gonna do win 75% of his games there?
 
I don't talk college sports with people who think CUSA was equal to the Big East. Moving on.
I think you forget what the Big East looked like in 2005:

Louisville (from CUSA)
USF (from CUSA)
Cincinnati (from CUSA)
UConn (upgrade to FBS in 1999)
Rutgers (perennial doormat)
West Virginia
Pitt
Syracuse (Greg Robinson era and Cuse went 1-11)

CUSA in 2004 had some bad teams, but they had TCU, Houston, Memphis, Louisville, Cincinnati, and USF so there wasn't much of a change in competition going from CUSA to Big East. Here's another stat. UConn strength of schedule in 2004 = 98. Louisville's strength of schedule in 2004 = 82.
 
CUSA is equal to trash. UCONN will probably never be a football power, should stay with a schedule similar to this year until expansion somewhere takes football only. Leaving Big East hoops would be a mistake unless Big 10 calls. By then it might be the Big 25.
Right now CUSA is trash as teams have moved on and I would totally be opposed to UConn moving to CUSA for football. But in the 2004/2005 time period, there were 5 schools that are either in or moving to the P5: TCU, Louisville, UCF, Cincinnati, and Houston.
 
Yup… the currency printing press is hidden next to the fax machine in the AD office supply closet.
And it's just starting to crank up!

It was an easy call to make but 2 B1G schools and an SEC school just flexed their muscles and significantly raised the bar on coaching salaries right before their new TV deals kick in.

With the going rate being established at $7-8+MM/yr for coaches it becomes very difficult for schools outside that circle to keep up.
 
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