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CardiacAndre7 said:
Saquon is a shell of his former self. He literally cannot make a defender miss. Gibson is significantly better.
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If Gettleman's aim was to increase merchandising, Barkley was the correct pick. If it was to improve the product on the field, Gettleman should have been fired that Thursday, 5:00pm. Before the draft.

I said years ago (though I'm sure I heard it from somewhere else. I'm not that clever.) that a "workhorse" running back in the salary cap era is not the banana, nor the ice cream. It's the cherry.
 
Huskygamble19 said:
When Bradberry made that interception, why did they decide to run Barkley up the middle for 2 plays when they knew he wasn't running the ball well instead of passing and taking advantage of the turnover. i am tired of the conservative approach and trying to protect the field goal because it usually ends up the way it did. I blame Judge for sure for that idea. looks so much like RE in these situations.
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It’s Garrett’s offense that sucks
 
Huskygamble19 said:
I would also like to point out on the play when I think it was Bradberry going for the ball and hit the receiver a little early. He was going for the ball you can plainly see and i have seen that play called many times as long as the defender is going for the ball it is legal. Not in this case, they called interference. You can't have it both ways. either it is a penalty or its not. They have to clean up that rule one way or another. It was an important call on that play.
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You can't go through the receiver like he did. You can go for the ball, but if the receiver has position on you, you can't run him over to try to make a catch.
 
Huskygamble19 said:
I would also like to point out on the play when I think it was Bradberry going for the ball and hit the receiver a little early. He was going for the ball you can plainly see and i have seen that play called many times as long as the defender is going for the ball it is legal. Not in this case, they called interference. You can't have it both ways. either it is a penalty or its not. They have to clean up that rule one way or another. It was an important call on that play.
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That's pass interference in the NFL everyday of the week. I think a similar play happened earlier in the game and wasn't called.

On the other hand, the officiating gets worse and worse every year. The play where McKissic tripped over the hash mark, untouched and gaining the first down was reviewed(!!) and they wrongly marked him down a yard and a half shy.
 
Huskygamble19 said:
When Bradberry made that interception, why did they decide to run Barkley up the middle for 2 plays when they knew he wasn't running the ball well instead of passing and taking advantage of the turnover. i am tired of the conservative approach and trying to protect the field goal because it usually ends up the way it did. I blame Judge for sure for that idea. looks so much like RE in these situations.
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On the flipside, why did Scott Turner call for a timing pass pattern, when Antonio Gibson was gaining over 5 yards a clip?
 
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Husky25 said:
That's pass interference in the NFL everyday of the week. I think a similar play happened earlier in the game and wasn't called.

On the other hand, the officiating gets worse and worse every year. The play where McKissic tripped over the hash mark, untouched and gaining the first down was reviewed(!!) and they wrongly marked him down a yard and a half shy.
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I would agree with you in most circumstances except for the fact that it has been called sometimes and then other times not. It is only 2 games this yeae, but last year it was said as long as the player is going for the ball it is not interference. Did they change the rule unbeknownst to me?
 
Huskygamble19 said:
I would agree with you in most circumstances except for the fact that it has been called sometimes and then other times not. It is only 2 games this yeae, but last year it was said as long as the player is going for the ball it is not interference. Did they change the rule unbeknownst to me?
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No. A defensive player could never run through another player to get to the ball.

I will agree that the consistency of officiating has deteriorated over the last dozen years or so.
 
Huskygamble19 said:
I know that they wanted to make Washington use their timeouts, but couldn't some short passes have the same effect? I don't know, I believe that you go for the jugular any chance you get.
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Or a play action boot leg where you have 2 options to get the first, making it harder for the Skins D to defend. I get running it on 1st down play it safe see if you break one, why not PA on 2nd where the D might expect a run. Offense left 2 tds off the board from the downfield block on the Jones run, and the Slayton drop.
 
You can’t play for the FG after the pick. That ultimately is on Judge who has the authority to guide the coordinators during crunch time. Jones was the best player in a Giants jersey last night. Let the final plays run thru him.
Horrible and yet predictable.
 
Oh and I grew up during the 80s when the giants defense brutalized opposing quarterbacks- and not just LT.
How many times have we brought these two average/below average quarterbacks we’ve faced so far down to the ground?
Just once last night in the final drive if we could have gotten a sack the game would have ultimately ended. Just once.
Patrick Graham needs to step up his game and figure it out.
 
When was the last time the Giants kept the Patriots off TV in Connecticut due to TV contracts? Bad form by the NFL schedulers.

How is it that one of them are not playing a 4:25 or 8:30? I literally cannot remember the last time this happened.
 
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Losers losers. I’m not impressed with this upcoming draft class of qbs either Rattler, Howell and Slovis are overrated. I say build the team then go get the qb. 1st and 10 on the 50 , 2 minutes left you run the ball use clock your less then 20 yards from Ganos range.
 
Saquon can’t make anyone miss. This whole team is a mess and it’s very hard to get excited to watch them when the result is always the same
 
The only saving grace is the Bears also suck so there should be 2 top 10 picks along with a new coach and GM
 
I still believe in Judge, he is not above criticism though. Gettleman and Garrett should be out now.
 
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Scoe said:
I still believe in Judge, he is not above criticism though. Gettleman and Garrett should be out now.
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Asking because I'm genuinely curious and would like to have a permanent coach, what exactly does he do well that he should stay?
 
navery12 said:
Asking because I'm genuinely curious and would like to have a permanent coach, what exactly does he do well that he should stay?
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I didnt say he should be a permanent HC just not aboard the fire Judge bandwagon just yet. I like his disciplined approach we saw signs last year of some change, if Engram catches a pass last year Giants win the NFC East (yes I know the division was a joke last year). He has put the team in position to win, the players gotta make plays like not dropping easy passes to clinch a game or game sealing INTS (is that on Judge).

Now he has been idiotic about the use of the timeouts and handicapping the offense, hes 39 I believe he will be a winner now that may or may not be with the Giants. If were 2-1 winning the last 2 were having a
different conversation abut Judge. We wanna get rid of a coach after year 2 only to see that the next coach is not the answer, just saying Judge isnt a retread HC like Mcadoo or Shurmur.

Now I'm all for firing Judge if he won't make adjustments and theres no improvement, and we get a better coach, we all want the same thing. It doesn't matter what we think or who should stay or go, until we actually win none of it matters it feels like being a Lions fan watching this franchise.
 
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I think any mention of the Giants or Jets should not be made in the Pro Sports Forum :rolleyes::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops:
 
8893 said:
I don't necessarily disagree, but I think he has this season to show otherwise.
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I think Danny is playing better than last year. Here is what I see. He throws a pass down to the Giants 15 yard line. Lineman moves. 5 yard penalty. Next play Danny gets sacked for a loss of 15 yards. On one drive last week the same lineman jumped twice!!! A bunch of drive killers this year. If you don't agree you haven't been watching Giants football. It is terrible. Last year you could call out Danny. But this year, not so much. He has the run option in himself. Pick up first down or touchdown. Giants haven't had anybody like him since Fran "The Man" Tarkenton(sp). I think the D-Line is not bad at all. The Giants secondary has been terrible for years against the slant pass. The other team, 3rd and 15. Or more!! How many times has this defense stopped the other team only to get a personal foul or any penalty to give the other team the first down and more. How more times does Garrett need to finally realize you cannot run Barkley up the middle. Too much to air out. Danny isn't the problem. It is basic football fundamental's that kills this team. In my opinion.
 
Scoe said:
I didnt say he should be a permanent HC just not aboard the fire Judge bandwagon just yet. I like his disciplined approach we saw signs last year of some change
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they are easily the least disciplined team in the league. all his tough guy 1950 bs doesn’t do jack squat
 
zls44 said:
they are easily the least disciplined team in the league. all his tough guy 1950 bs doesn’t do jack squat
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Gotta love the discipline he's brought like jumping offsides from the most meaningless spot on a GW FG and getting penalties every time they're in the red zone
 
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zls44 said:
they are easily the least disciplined team in the league. all his tough guy 1950 bs doesn’t do jack squat
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Im not defending Judges coaching this year, nor should his job be safe. I think Gettleman is the main problem on this team he shouldn't last the season. I do think Shurmur got a bad deal with this team btw, look at him now in Denver with Bridgewater.
 
Yeah, that Taysom Hill TD is one of the most impressive TDs I've seen in a while.
 
Joe Judge continues to have no idea how to manage a team. Punting down 11 in Saints territory is beyond stupid
 
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