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huskymedic said:
Missed this yesterday…

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He conveniently leaves out Matt Ruhle.

Also I dont know if the problem is the AAC so much as hiring these guys after 1 good season.

Frost and Herman were in the AAC for two years.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
See...you can do it! No drama caps!
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it - USC today - is all about Pete Carroll. It is like being a Raiders fan - 30 years later. Unique to southern California.

Helton - Sarkisian - Kiffin. None have proven worldbeaters OR USC fanbase/stakeholders wouldn't allow any variance from the exalted position in their head.

Brooks or Chip Kelly - imho - were at higher levels at times than any of the Kiffin or Sarkisian teams. It is interesting to watch from afar. Except Carroll at his peak, NONE of these programs has been dominant for an era = like a Saban or a Stoops or a Meyer.
 
Vowelguy said:
He conveniently leaves out Matt Ruhle.

Also I dont know if the problem is the AAC so much as hiring these guys after 1 good season.

Frost and Herman were in the AAC for two years.
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I think the story is all the same. These are good coaches. But the P5 programs won't allow any down period or development of a team over classes. WIN now. Some were simply poor fits. Maybe Willie at FSU. But I cannot specifically say Herman or Jones or Norvell or Collins are mediocre HCs. You have more time to develop and put a roster in place at the AAC level
 
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freescooter said:
There is something to what he says, but the flip side is many of these guys get taken based on really limited results. Herman was the head coach at Houston for 2 seasons. Frost was at UCF for 2 seasons. The guy from SMU was there for 2 as well, I think. They did what they did with guys who were recruited by their predecessors. They never faced one of those tough years where you lose your quarterback and a couple of star linemen. Who knows how they recruit or how they deal with problems. The guy who left Cincinatti for Tennessee was the same thing. Guys get hot in the media but have minimal experience. But bigger name schools feel obliged to hire them. As the AAA league the AAC coaches were most open to poaching.
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Nah, Bruce Jones left Cincinnati because he didn't know how to spell it correctly. Probably a graduate of the University of Conneticut. ;)
 
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The more I look at his record, Jones would be a pretty nice get I think. Got Central Michigan into the Top 25. Got Cincinatti into the Top 25. Actually had 2 9 win seasons at Tennessee In addition to a7-6 year. 1-3 at Arkansas State this year but the losses have been to bigger programs. At Washington, at Tulsa and in ot to Memphis. Kind of guy I think would be a nice get. Won at Tennessee just not enough to satisfy the fans who actually think they can beat Alabama and Georgia.
 
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huskymedic said:
Followup on Joe Moorhead:

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I just watched a recent video of Moorhead vs one from a year ago. Maybe it's the full gray beard, but he looks like he has aged in the last year. Maybe it's his medical condition.
 
UConnJim said:
I just watched a recent video of Moorhead vs one from a year ago. Maybe it's the full gray beard, but he looks like he has aged in the last year. Maybe it's his medical condition.
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I'm roughly the same age. When he was at UConn he looked a lot older than me. I've caught him in the gray beard department.
 
Butch Davis is retiring from FAU at season's end... HC search starting there as well (hoping we don't lose out on our guy to them):

 
why would you want to be the number 7 coach in Florida (maybe even lower than some FCS) ... or the number 1 coach in New England State U?

Maybe I am delusional
 


-> UConn: Randy Edsall​

Original grades
  • ESPN: C+
  • CBS: D
  • SI: B-
  • Fox Sports: N/A
  • SB Nation: C+
Regrade: F

UConn returned to the man who took the program to the FBS level and a Fiesta Bowl, trying to re-create previous magic. But Edsall’s second stint was a disaster. He went 6-32 and stepped down two games into the 2021 season. Half of those six wins came against FCS teams, and the 2018 defense was statistically the worst in college football history. The Huskies also left the AAC and the football program became an independent. Their long-term future faces a lot of questions. <-
 
huskymedic said:


-> UConn: Randy Edsall​

Original grades
  • ESPN: C+
  • CBS: D
  • SI: B-
  • Fox Sports: N/A
  • SB Nation: C+
Regrade: F

UConn returned to the man who took the program to the FBS level and a Fiesta Bowl, trying to re-create previous magic. But Edsall’s second stint was a disaster. He went 6-32 and stepped down two games into the 2021 season. Half of those six wins came against FCS teams, and the 2018 defense was statistically the worst in college football history. The Huskies also left the AAC and the football program became an independent. Their long-term future faces a lot of questions. <-
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Guess there is nothing lower than an F.
 
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In summary, do whatever Cincinnati does. Stay close to home, and get a guy who has been a part of winning programs.
 
Yes, it’s Wolken but interesting commentary nonetheless:

-> North Texas: Coach Seth Littrell’s career arc should be a cautionary tale for any Group of Five coach who has some success but doesn’t get the heck out at the first opportunity. After winning nine games in his second and third seasons, including a trip to the Conference USA championship game, Littrell looked like the next hot coaching prospect from the Air Raid family. But after the 2018 season, Littrell never quite got to the finish line after serious discussions with Kansas State. At that point, he was the highest-paid coach in C-USA and North Texas continued to invest in his contract and his staff. But the returns are diminishing — quickly. The Mean Green probably isn’t C-USA’s worst team, but at 1-5 (with the lone win coming against Northwestern State) and coming off a 49-21 home loss to Marshall, it’d be hard to tell the difference. North Texas is 6-12 in the league since 2019 and headed for its third straight losing season, and now he’s far more likely to be fired than to get promoted to the Power Five. <-
 
don356 said:
In summary, do whatever Cincinnati does. Stay close to home, and get a guy who has been a part of winning programs.
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Cincinnati's home is a bit more fertile that UConn's. That said, I like HC's coach. Heck, even Yales's.
 
RSTuthill said:
Cincinnati's home is a bit more fertile that UConn's. That said, I like HC's coach. Heck, even Yales's.
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I would expect Cheney to at least get an interview. Is Mangini off the market?
 
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