2018 New York Mets season thread | Page 3 | The Boneyard

2018 New York Mets season thread

Well, after that great start.....

1) deGrom is hurt (hopefully nothing serious)
2) Frazier is hurt (hopefully nothing serious) and we're one little injury from Reyes playing every day
3) The catching position is an even worse mess than it's been in recent years and dragging down the entire staff's performance
4) We just traded Matt Harvey for an oft-injured middle of the road catcher who won't improve that position much, if any.
5) Jason Vargas stinks. Like bad.
 
Deepster said:
Well, after that great start.....

1) deGrom is hurt (hopefully nothing serious)
2) Frazier is hurt (hopefully nothing serious) and we're one little injury from Reyes playing every day
3) The catching position is an even worse mess than it's been in recent years and dragging down the entire staff's performance
4) We just traded Matt Harvey for an oft-injured middle of the road catcher who won't improve that position much, if any.
5) Jason Vargas stinks. Like bad.
Expand ...
6) We just batted out of order and had a double taken away

M-E-T-S, Mets, Mets, Mets!
 
The wheels are coming off. The 12-2 start was Fool’s Gold. This is who we really are.
And you all know how I have ragged on this org for its ignoring the catching. The prize we got for Harvey got the collar yesterday. The position this year has to be .200 overall, and I think it’s what, 8 RBIs?
 
Regardless of what happens this season, I’m a Wheeler fan. I like how he never complains, works hard, has taken his lumps and is a smart pitcher. I feel like (or maybe wishful thinking) that the older he gets, the better he may get from being more cerebral?
 
.-.
I'm not sure what's worse? The actual Mets season or this thread.

Just cut Adrian Gonzalez to bring up Dom Smith. Familia on the DL with a shoulder issue. And a laundry list of other problems.

Cuncel da saeson?
 
Deepster said:
I'm not sure what's worse? The actual Mets season or this thread.

Just cut Adrian Gonzalez to bring up Dom Smith. Familia on the DL with a shoulder issue. And a laundry list of other problems.

Cuncel da saeson?
Expand ...
If you were GM, would you entertain offers for deGrom and Syndergaard--even from the likes of the Yankees--if we could get back multiple top prospects in return?

I don't know how I feel about that, but I am starting to see it mentioned (in the NYT and ESPN this weekend, among other places).

I do know we are mostly constructed as a "win now" team and several keys to that strategy have been plagued with injuries, so I don't think we have a realistic shot at that becoming reality.
 
8893 said:
If you were GM, would you entertain offers for deGrom and Syndergaard--even from the likes of the Yankees--if we could get back multiple top prospects in return?

I don't know how I feel about that, but I am starting to see it mentioned (in the NYT and ESPN this weekend, among other places).

I do know we are mostly constructed as a "win now" team and several keys to that strategy have been plagued with injuries, so I don't think we have a realistic shot at that becoming reality.
Expand ...

Yes, you trade them. The Met offense is so awful, you could lose with a starting 5 of Koufax, Cy Young, Bob Gibson, etc etc etc. Maximize return now, because even these guys can't fix what is broken on this team - hitting and the farm.
 
8893 said:
If you were GM, would you entertain offers for deGrom and Syndergaard--even from the likes of the Yankees--if we could get back multiple top prospects in return?

I don't know how I feel about that, but I am starting to see it mentioned (in the NYT and ESPN this weekend, among other places).

I do know we are mostly constructed as a "win now" team and several keys to that strategy have been plagued with injuries, so I don't think we have a realistic shot at that becoming reality.
Expand ...

Maybe a weird answer to the question, but I'd trade Syndergaard. Why? I don't think he can throw as hard as he does and NOT eventually have Tommy John. My fear with him is, signing him to a huge contract, then popping his elbow. Out for a year, the next year is a slow road back and next thing you know it's 3 years or more before he's our stopper ace (if he's even that now).

deGrom has already had TJ, as has Matz and Wheeler. I'd throw the bank account at deGrom and keep him here.
 
Deepster said:
I'd throw the bank account at deGrom and keep him here.
Expand ...
Yeah, I think he may be the only guy on the entire roster I'd consider untouchable. It would kill me to see him go elsewhere--especially the Yankees.
 
Yeah I'd rather trade Thor than deGrom. The problem is, you're not going to get as much for Syndergaard as you would for deGrom; he's our true ace.
 
.-.
I mean, I'm trying to stay interested. Trying to watch the games and have some hope.

And they just keep ripping my heart out and stomping on it.

Brutal.
 
And I'm now officially confused on this Jose Reyes issue. I get he's a Mets hall of famer and, in his prime, was one of the most electric players to ever put on the uniform. I think he's good in the locker room (maybe moreso with the Latino players). But he's gotten way, way, WAY past the point where anyone would look poorly on the Mets for releasing him.

Best case? He gets hot for a stretch? We're 7 games under .500 right now. What impact is he going to really have on making that any better? And, worst case, we get hit with more injuries and he's forced to play every day.
 
Season’s over, blow it all up. Nobody should be off the table, but agree Jake should stay unless some team is willing to pony up huge.
They can’t hit. At all.
 
Alum86 said:
Season’s over, blow it all up. Nobody should be off the table, but agree Jake should stay unless some team is willing to pony up huge.
They can’t hit. At all.
Expand ...
And the saddest part is that they can't ever hit for Jake.

I almost feel bad for him that he is stuck with us. He deserves better.
 
I want them to blow it up, but the sad thing is I'm not looking forward to that because I don't have any faith that Alderson will be able to get good value for the pieces we trade off. I'm almost hoping we get rid of him after the season and bring in a new GM and that person blows it up. Still, the bottom line is as long as the organization is run by the Wilpons I'm not going to have any confidence in this organization doing anything right.
 
Wait a second.

Omar Minaya is making personnel decisions for the Mets? Stop the train, I want to get off.
 
.-.
I hope they trade off any veterans on expiring deals in the next month, hang onto deGrom and Syndergaard, and hire a new GM in the fall. Don't want this three-headed monster making any big-time decisions for this organization, especially if Jeff Wilpon is insisting on making the final call on all decisions.
 
We are batting .207 at home.

Let that sink in.

deGrom deserves better than us.
 
And now Fred is reportedly interested in hiring an "old-school" GM to take over next year and thinks Sandy focused too much on analytics. Our team has a smaller analytics staff than almost any other in baseball already.

I hate this team.
 
Rico444 said:
And now Fred is reportedly interested in hiring an "old-school" GM to take over next year and thinks Sandy focused too much on analytics. Our team has a smaller analytics staff than almost any other in baseball already.

I hate this team.
Expand ...

Then they should hire Barry Bonds. He was all over the Pirates broadcast last night (had his #25 retired by Giants) and his views of baseball are positively 1980s when it comes to analytics and fundamentals. Bonds is currently in FO for Giants as a "special assistant". Not sure what role he's had in Giants acquiring all the fossils on their current roster.
 
I tip my hat to the Mets for throwing their best pitcher in a make-up game. It knocked the Yanks for a loop. They haven't had a day off since July.
 
.-.
Rico444 said:
And now Fred is reportedly interested in hiring an "old-school" GM to take over next year and thinks Sandy focused too much on analytics. Our team has a smaller analytics staff than almost any other in baseball already.

I hate this team.
Expand ...

I was baffled when I read that.

I’m not against traditional work, but if you go with a traditional guy, you need an impressive team of analytics guys to support him.
 
Looking forward to next year and then they will probably break my heart again.
 
Greathusky said:
Looking forward to next year and then they will probably break my heart again.
Expand ...

Terry Collins getting out-managed by Ned Yost was probably a sign.
 
Jacob deGrom is an absolute stud. It'll be a travesty if he doesn't win the Cy Young.
 
.-.
You must log in or register to reply here.

Forum statistics

Threads
168,640
Messages
4,587,386
Members
10,497
Latest member
Orlando Fos


Top Bottom