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Maybe the issue is that, if I read you correctly, your analysis implies a linear progression in the value of players.

No definitely not!

Roughly the way it works for each rating service:
(401-rank)^(3.5)
These are then summed across the 5 services, and the total is normalized so that a #1 across all the board would earn 1000.

For example,
#1 = 1000, #2 = 991.
#100 = 347, #101 = 343.
 
No definitely not!

Roughly the way it works for each rating service:
(401-rank)^(3.5)
These are then summed across the 5 services, and the total is normalized so that a #1 across all the board would earn 1000.

For example,
#1 = 1000, #2 = 991.
#100 = 347, #101 = 343.

With Duke signing Angela Salvadores, I suspect that will push them into 2nd. Correct ?
The problem being how do you rate a player who only one service has evaluated.
 
With Duke signing Angela Salvadores, I suspect that will push them into 2nd. Correct ?
The problem being how do you rate a player who only one service has evaluated.

Yes and yes.
Though she's been rated by two: #5 by ESPN, #22 by ASGR.
 
Yeah, but there has to be a word you could have used so I wouldn't have to look it up. I bet most posters here couldn't give you the definition of that word.

yeah, but I for one like finding words I don't know when I am reading, and looking them up to find out their meaning. My books at home are marked up with these words, and their definitions are in the margins.
 
yeah, but I for one like finding words I don't know when I am reading, and looking them up to find out their meaning. My books at home are marked up with these words, and their definitions are in the margins.
That's the way I was taught as a boy...write the words on the back fly leaf and add the definitions when you look them up.
 
yeah, but I for one like finding words I don't know when I am reading, and looking them up to find out their meaning. My books at home are marked up with these words, and their definitions are in the margins.
You're like Ione Skye's character in Say Anything. She marked every word she looked up in her dictionary. I tried to find a youtube link of the scene, but was unsuccessful. :(
 
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Yes and yes.
Though she's been rated by two: #5 by ESPN, #22 by ASGR.

Actually, four

#60 - Blue Star
#5 - Dan Olson Collegiate Girls Basketball Report

Technically, however, Dan Olson did the rankings for ESPN/Hoopgurlz.
 
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Aliyah Mazyck '15 NC has committed to Southern Cal
 
Agreed. That was the point of my second sentence.

Still, the weighting is a tricky business. Requires an ongoing heuristic approach.
Oh, heuristic. I thought you said hubristic. Nevermind....
 
Ijeoma Odimgbe '15 GA has committed to Oklahoma. #74 on Prospectsnation #13 Post Player
 
If you do a pure average, then the best possible class would be the #1 player alone.
But surely that's not better than a class with the #2, #3, #4, and #5 players.
I agree however as a Storm fan I would rather have KML then 2-5. I think the drop off is that big.
 
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Ijeoma Odimgbe '15 GA has committed to Oklahoma. #74 on Prospectsnation #13 Post Player

Sooners finally get on the board.
Not in top 100 consensus.
 
Having the top class is great but filling the needs for the team are the most important. UConn did that with this class. Yes UConn could use more top players but with who is on UConns roster and who has verballed UConn is in a great position.
Geno--Love's top players, but he loves TEAM players more. Geno had done wonders making not so top players into All Americans. It took me a long time to believe in Geno, even with all the NC's, however, one cannot go against the record.
 
I agree however as a Storm fan I would rather have KML then 2-5. I think the drop off is that big.
Love your name--it combines two of Uconn's best. Sue Bird and Svetlana Abrasamova (?)---Svet before DT and Griner, played like a guy--she and Shea apparently were good buddies. I was sorry she "retired" but kids grow quickly into ALMOST middle aged women.
 
Hey! Cal is still in the running for Sam Fuehring, too! She took an official to Berkeley last weekend. ;-P

*I'm a Cal fan so I gotta insert them in any WCBB convo when I can, even though TBH I have a feeling Sam Fuehring ends up at L'Ville with Durr :-(

p.s. thanks for your posts!
It would be good if you named The OFFICIAL--I see another VIOLATION coming here.
 
Love your name--it combines two of Uconn's best. Sue Bird and Svetlana Abrasamova (?)---Svet before DT and Griner, played like a guy--she and Shea apparently were good buddies. I was sorry she "retired" but kids grow quickly into ALMOST middle aged women.
Yep my two favorites! I didn't get to see them at UConn but on Seattle. I loved them and they made me a fan. Svet is so sweet. she responds to my (and other fans) tweets a lot.
 
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Geno--Love's top players, but he loves TEAM players more. Geno had done wonders making not so top players into All Americans. It took me a long time to believe in Geno, even with all the NC's, however, one cannot go against the record.

My observation is that Geno recruits very good athletes, shooters but most importantly good and willing passers.
 
lol. Yeah, I know I'm going to hear about that.
It's a point system.
Louisville's players are 994,840,702,637
UConn's are 997,962,899

A school's point total is 60% the sum + 40% the average of the players.

It used to be 100% sum, so this is an attempt to better reward smaller, high-quality classes.

I may need to reconsider this for future years. But it's a difficult balancing act.
and you missed this one... ;^)
 
Breanna Stewart, Moriah Jefferson, Morgan Tuck, Saniya Chong, Natalie Butler, Courtney Eckmark, Kiah Nurse, Gabby Williams, Sadie Edwards, Katie Lou Samuelson, Napheesa Collier and De'Janae Boykin. Connecticut needs more top players. Those are twelve spectacular to solid players. Where are these other top players going to fit in? I agree that when Bre and Mo leave they will need more top players. Having too many can mean transfers because top players don't want to sit on the bench.
 
Breanna Stewart, Moriah Jefferson, Morgan Tuck, Saniya Chong, Natalie Butler, Courtney Eckmark, Kiah Nurse, Gabby Williams, Sadie Edwards, Katie Lou Samuelson, Napheesa Collier and De'Janae Boykin. Connecticut needs more top players. Those are twelve spectacular to solid players. Where are these other top players going to fit in? I agree that when Bre and Mo leave they will need more top players. Having too many can mean transfers because top players don't want to sit on the bench.
Top players, yea I guess. But two have had serious knee injuries and six others have great potential, but unproven at this level and three aren't coming until next year. Lots of uncertainties in life.
 
The recruiting ranking are fun, but they can't take into consideration each team's need. A school might have a great recruiting class on paper, but have too many competing for point guard with no bigs. Or have players that just don't mesh well.
There is Art as well as Science in recruiting - and of course in molding those recruits into a NC Team!
 
The recruiting ranking are fun, but they can't take into consideration each team's need. A school might have a great recruiting class on paper, but have too many competing for point guard with no bigs. Or have players that just don't mesh well.
There is Art as well as Science in recruiting - and of course in molding those recruits into a NC Team!
That's why refining the methodology beyond what VG has done isn't going to improve the tool. There isn't reasonably available data to address all of these issues en masse. Once you have the the foundation work accomplished by VG, then you have to use your refinements to compare teams assembled.
 
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Another Destiny, Destiny Slocum (#4 HG, #5 PN) is down to four schools and one of them is Duke. Are we sure Krzyewski isn't doing the recruiting there?

Don't know what year she is, but it's not 2015.
 
Don't know what year she is, but it's not 2015.

Nope, she's '16. I really wasn't thinking of that when I posted. Just had to express my surprise that half the players seem to want to attend Duke. Guess I shouldn't be surprised anymore.
 
Nope, she's '16. I really wasn't thinking of that when I posted. Just had to express my surprise that half the players seem to want to attend Duke. Guess I shouldn't be surprised anymore.

Yeah. Beautiful campus. Great location. Great education. What ever are they thinking?
 
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