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2004 Most Talented Roster Ever

superjohn said:
I've posted all the reasons why already but no sense in going through it again. You already said you were an infant when UConn was first winning championships. Leave it to us older folks.
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Wanna leave it to us young folks to quote posts correctly?
 
Rocktheworld said:
LOL you mean like how the 09 team was in the top 5 every week from week 3 on and spent the vast majority of that time ranked 1-2?

Y'all are letting your hate for Puke cloud your judgment.
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They weren't clearly one of the top 2 teams start to finish, junior. I mean, they didn't finish in the top 2. But they just weren't as good. Pretty obvious.

The 2004 team would've kicked the living crap out of the 2009 team.

And it's funny you're using Basketball Reference to argue against people who watched games. "LOL."
 
Rocktheworld said:
LOL you mean like how the 09 team was in the top 5 every week from week 3 on and spent the vast majority of that time ranked 1-2?

Y'all are letting your hate for Puke cloud your judgment.
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Can't believe you are still arguing this, without being dinged up for a couple games UConn had a great chance of going undefeated in '99 and beat what many considered one of the best all-time college teams. Rip was so much better than anyone on '09 and El-Amin was also better than anyone on that squad. Same goes for Okafor and Gordon.
 
nomar said:
They weren't clearly one of the top 2 teams start to finish, junior.

The 2004 team would've kicked the living crap out of the 2009 team.

You're using Basketball Reference to argue against people who watched games. "LOL."
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No need to get upset with the "junior" talk, tweetums

I used sports reference to talk about the 90 team and no other. I don't buy any of these team kicking the living crap out of each other and you demonstrate further bias by claiming such. Thanks for bringing this back to head-to-head match-ups though which is where my point really starts
 
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Rocktheworld said:
No need to get upset with the "junior" talk, tweetums

I used sports reference to talk about the 90 team and no other. I don't buy any of these team kicking the living crap out of each other and you demonstrate further bias by claiming such. Thanks for bringing this back to head-to-head match-ups though which is where my point really starts
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I’d like to see 04 play 09 just to watch Okafor tool on Thabeet.
 
Rocktheworld said:
No need to get upset, bud

I used sports reference to talk about the 90 team and no other. I don't buy either team kicking the crap out of other. Thanks for bringing this back to head-to-head match-ups though which is where my point really starts
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Nothing gets under my skin more on boards like this than when an adult male starts a post with "LOL" -- and it's particularly annoying when the person is mocking what, for good reason, is the general consensus.

The 2004 team, once it was healthy, destroyed every team that didn't start Redick, Deng, Shelden Williams, Ewing and Duhon.

And the 1999 team beat an even better Duke team. I hate Duke but if that clouded my judgment I wouldn't admit how good those teams were.

Edit: Unbelievable that you edited your post to make your insult harsher. Very mature. I had to look at Urban Dictionary to see what you were trying to say.
 
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Rocktheworld said:
Sticks is fine on Green
AJ is fine on Lawson
Dyson is fine on Ellington
Hansborough has absolutely nothing for Hash
Adrien bullies anyone on that roster
JC vs Roy on the sidelines? lol
Deeper with Kemba coming off the bench
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Lawson would have blown by AJ with ease and Hansbrough would have had Thabeet in foul trouble before the under 12 in the 1st half (Hansbrough has the most FTA in college history by over 100 and averaged like 9 FTA a game for his college career). And it's not like Dyson would be swatting Ellington corner 3s...
 
nomar said:
Nothing gets under my skin more on boards like this than when an adult male starts a post with "LOL" -- and it's particularly annoying when the person is mocking what, for good reason, is the general consensus.
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I was implying that, if this were happening in real life, I would immediately start laughing at this notion that the 09 team is allegedly not included in the group of prior UConn teams who were clearly in the top 1-2 all year. Not sure why it gets under your skin. Lighten up, big guy.

Good job not needing urban dictionary to decipher that acronym.
The 2004 team, once it was healthy, destroyed every team that didn't start Redick, Deng, Shelden Williams, Ewing and Duhon.
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And if healthy, the 09 team wins a NC and there's next to no debate.

And the 1999 team beat an even better Duke team. I hate Duke but if that clouded my judgment I wouldn't admit how good those teams were.
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Hating a team hardly disables one from acknowledging how good they were.

Edit: Unbelievable that you edited your post to make your insult harsher. Very mature. I had to look at Urban Dictionary to see what you were trying to say.
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INCONCEIVABLE. ASTONISHING. PREPOSTERIOUS. OUTLANDISH. COCKAMAMIE.

I'm not great with taking the high road. And it only became an insult after the edit; there was no prior insult that was heightened by said edit.

Go to bed, Ramon
 
Rocktheworld said:
I was implying that, if this were happening in real life, I would immediately start laughing at this notion that the 09 team is allegedly not included in the group of prior UConn teams who were clearly in the top 1-2 all year. Not sure why it gets under your skin. Lighten up, big guy.

Good job not needing urban dictionary to decipher that acronym.

And if healthy, the 09 team wins a NC and there's next to no debate.


Hating a team hardly disables one from acknowledging how good they were.


INCONCEIVABLE. ASTONISHING. PREPOSTERIOUS. OUTLANDISH. COCKAMAMIE.

I'm not great with taking the high road. And it only became an insult after the edit; there was no prior insult that was heightened by said edit.

Go to bed, Ramon
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Can you get mercury poisioning from kale?
 
Rocktheworld said:
I was implying that, if this were happening in real life, I would immediately start laughing at this notion that the 09 team is allegedly not included in the group of prior UConn teams who were clearly in the top 1-2 all year. Not sure why it gets under your skin. Lighten up, big guy.

Good job not needing urban dictionary to decipher that acronym.

And if healthy, the 09 team wins a NC and there's next to no debate.


Hating a team hardly disables one from acknowledging how good they were.


INCONCEIVABLE. ASTONISHING. PREPOSTERIOUS. OUTLANDISH. COCKAMAMIE.

I'm not great with taking the high road. And it only became an insult after the edit; there was no prior insult that was heightened by said edit.

Go to bed, Ramon
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I don't believe the 2009 was much, if at all better, with Dyson. And with or without him, they don't sniff the 2004 team's jock.

Still not sure why you're laughing at something that's a fact. They didn't make the Championship game for . Hence, not in top 2.

I think here's where millennials say "Take the L."
 
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whaler11 said:
And miss the last 5 minutes of this barnburner?

UNLV’s best team might have beaten this Michigan team by 60.
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Came out of nowhere. I said in the actual thread that I can't root for anything assocaited with Philadelphia but few enough people care about Nova basketball there. I think I'm gonna be more pleased seeing disappointed Michigan fans.

Where's @nelsonmuntz who told us all to stay far away from this game? Must've been feeling extra smart lately by apparently learning a new term "backdoor cover"
 
Rocktheworld said:
I was implying that, if this were happening in real life, I would immediately start laughing at this notion that the 09 team is allegedly not included in the group of prior UConn teams who were clearly in the top 1-2 all year. Not sure why it gets under your skin. Lighten up, big guy.

Good job not needing urban dictionary to decipher that acronym.

And if healthy, the 09 team wins a NC and there's next to no debate.


Hating a team hardly disables one from acknowledging how good they were.


INCONCEIVABLE. ASTONISHING. PREPOSTERIOUS. OUTLANDISH. COCKAMAMIE.

I'm not great with taking the high road. And it only became an insult after the edit; there was no prior insult that was heightened by said edit.

Go to bed, Ramon
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You simply don't know how to take the L. I love how there is no debate the '09 team wins the championship if Dyson doesn't go down. This has become comical, '09 UConn probably would have beaten the Lakers with a healthy Dyson as well.
 
nomar said:
I don't believe the 2009 was much, if at all better, with Dyson. And with or without him, they don't sniff the 2004 team's jock.

Still not sure why you're laughing at something that's a fact. They didn't make the Championship game for .
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"That's just, like, your opinion, man". Not fact.

Am I bridging generations adequately enough there for you?

I think here's where millennials say "Take the L."
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We also verbalize when things make us cringe, which, yeah, right here. Cringe .
 
nomar said:
I don't believe the 2009 was much, if at all better, with Dyson. And with or without him, they don't sniff the 2004 team's jock.

Still not sure why you're laughing at something that's a fact. They didn't make the Championship game for .

I think here's where millennials say "Take the L."
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Certainly getting Dyson back didn’t save them in the future.

I sat right behind the bench at that St John’s debacle in the BET.

Until this year that was the gold standard for UConn team that wanted to be put out of their misery.
 
Nobody has even brought up how much that '09 Michigan State team sucked.
 
Rocktheworld said:
"That's just, like, your opinion, man". Not fact.

Am I bridging generations adequately enough there for you?


We also verbalize when things make us cringe, which, yeah, right here. Cringe .
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Dude just said "Cringe " to try to look cool.

You do realize that it's a "fact" that you're not in the top 2 if you lose in the Final Four, right? I do like Lebo, though. Great movie, great quote.
 
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Rocktheworld said:
"That's just, like, your opinion, man". Not fact.

Am I bridging generations adequately enough there for you?


We also verbalize when things make us cringe, which, yeah, right here. Cringe .
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But 09 UConn winning the title with Dyson is a fact?
 
nomar said:
Your lack of self awareness is pretty hilarious. Dude just said "Cringe " to try to look cool, folks.
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Grasp harder. I just knew you'd react to that because you can't help your miserable self.

Do you not know how to count to 2? You do realize that it's a "fact" that you're not in the top 2 if you lose in the Final Four, right?
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The only thing I'm not getting here is why you're getting so upset. The internet may not be for you if you get this triggered over an "LOL".
 
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Rocktheworld said:
Grasp harder


The only thing I'm not getting here is why you're getting so upset. The internet may not be for you if you get this triggered over an "LOL".
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Calmer than you are, dude.

You're getting beaten in this thread like a redheaded stepchild.
 
nomar said:
Calmer than you are, dude.

You're getting beaten in this thread like a redheaded stepchild.
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Nothing you've said or could say has or will get "under my skin", speaking of taking an L...
 
I feel like the 09 is the only team we ever had beat Louisville in the regular season
 
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I skipped the last two pages because it went all boneyard... So hopefully not repeating anyone here.

94: KO, Doron, Donny, Donyell, Travis, Big E, Ray, Fair, Kirk, King (5 NBA draft picks plus KO)
95: KO, Doron, Ray, Donny, Travis, Big E, Fair, Kirk King (4 NBA draft picks plus KO)
96: Doron, Ray, Rudy, Kirk King, Travis, Rash, Ricky, Big E (3 NBA draft picks)
99: KEA, Ricky, Rip, KFree, Jake, Mouring, Edmund, Souley, Rashad (3 NBA draft picks)
04: Taliek, Ben, Rashad, Boone, Emeka, Charlie, Denham, Marcus Williams for 1/2 the season (6 NBA draft picks)
06: Marcus, Rashad, Rudy Gay, Boone, Hilton, Denham, Austrie, Ed Nelson (5 NBA draft picks)
09: AJ, Dyson, Sticks, Adrien, Hash, Austrie, Gavin, Kemba (4 NBA draft picks)

I think 99 is far and away the best team. 04 is the most talented but did not always play that way. 06 was at times the most dominant, but that was few and far between and they coasted more often than not. I think 09 was an outstanding team, but I never thought we were going to win a title even with Dyson.

The 94-96 teams are underrated. They were our highest scoring teams and probably most explosive. They are also the only ones where the entire starting five (at least 94 and 95) were NBA players or draft picks. Of course, we know that they were also a bit soft and that led to our chokes to Florida and Miss. St. and just being outgunned by farking Toby Bailey in 95.
 
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nomar said:
Nothing gets under my skin more on boards like this than when an adult male starts a post with "LOL" -- and it's particularly annoying when the person is mocking what, for good reason, is the general consensus.

The 2004 team, once it was healthy, destroyed every team that didn't start Redick, Deng, Shelden Williams, Ewing and Duhon.

And the 1999 team beat an even better Duke team. I hate Duke but if that clouded my judgment I wouldn't admit how good those teams were.

Edit: Unbelievable that you edited your post to make your insult harsher. Very mature. I had to look at Urban Dictionary to see what you were trying to say.
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But if it’s a teenage female it’s okay?
 
TheChamps990411 said:
09` had a more dominant regular season for sure but by the time that `04 team as clicking on all cylinders it was a whole different ballgame. They were the better team.
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My recollection of 2004 was that they were so talented, that they got lazy at times during the year. That lead to a few upset losses.

Contrast to 1999, which had a spectacular regular season, but which had to work a little harder.
 
boog204 said:
I skipped the last two pages because it went all boneyard... So hopefully not repeating anyone here.

94: KO, Doron, Donny, Donyell, Travis, Big E, Ray, Fair, Kirk, King (5 NBA draft picks plus KO)
95: KO, Doron, Ray, Donny, Travis, Big E, Fair, Kirk King (4 NBA draft picks plus KO)
96: Doron, Ray, Rudy, Kirk King, Travis, Rash, Ricky, Big E (3 NBA draft picks)
99: KEA, Ricky, Rip, KFree, Jake, Mouring, Edmund, Souley, Rashad (3 NBA draft picks)
04: Taliek, Ben, Rashad, Boone, Emeka, Charlie, Denham, Marcus Williams for 1/2 the season (6 NBA draft picks)
06: Marcus, Rashad, Rudy Gay, Boone, Hilton, Denham, Austrie, Ed Nelson (5 NBA draft picks)
09: AJ, Dyson, Sticks, Adrien, Hash, Austrie, Gavin, Kemba (4 NBA draft picks)

I think 99 is far and away the best team. 04 is the most talented but did not always play that way. 06 was at times the most dominant, but that was few and far between and they coasted more often than not. I think 09 was an outstanding team, but I never thought we were going to win a title even with Dyson.

The 94-96 teams are underrated. They were our highest scoring teams and probably most explosive. They are also the only ones where the entire starting five (at least 94 and 95) were NBA players or draft picks. Of course, we know that they were also a bit soft and that led to our chokes to Florida and Miss. St. and just being outgunned by farking Toby Bailey in 95.
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94 is my favorite team. Just loved their style of play.

There are so many great UConn teams someone could make a video game pitting those teams against each other and provide me with hours of gaming entertainment.
 
HuskyHawk said:
My recollection of 2004 was that they were so talented, that they got lazy at times during the year. That lead to a few upset losses.

Contrast to 1999, which had a spectacular regular season, but which had to work a little harder.
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Ben broke his nose and had to wear a mask for about a 10 game stretch. His play suffered during that stretch and the team sputtered a bit. As he got his confidence and shooting back the team took off and asserted its dominance again. It was really as simple as that.
 
boog204 said:
I skipped the last two pages because it went all boneyard... So hopefully not repeating anyone here.

94: KO, Doron, Donny, Donyell, Travis, Big E, Ray, Fair, Kirk, King (5 NBA draft picks plus KO)
95: KO, Doron, Ray, Donny, Travis, Big E, Fair, Kirk King (4 NBA draft picks plus KO)
96: Doron, Ray, Rudy, Kirk King, Travis, Rash, Ricky, Big E (3 NBA draft picks)
99: KEA, Ricky, Rip, KFree, Jake, Mouring, Edmund, Souley, Rashad (3 NBA draft picks)
04: Taliek, Ben, Rashad, Boone, Emeka, Charlie, Denham, Marcus Williams for 1/2 the season (6 NBA draft picks)
06: Marcus, Rashad, Rudy Gay, Boone, Hilton, Denham, Austrie, Ed Nelson (5 NBA draft picks)
09: AJ, Dyson, Sticks, Adrien, Hash, Austrie, Gavin, Kemba (4 NBA draft picks)

I think 99 is far and away the best team. 04 is the most talented but did not always play that way. 06 was at times the most dominant, but that was few and far between and they coasted more often than not. I think 09 was an outstanding team, but I never thought we were going to win a title even with Dyson.

The 94-96 teams are underrated. They were our highest scoring teams and probably most explosive. They are also the only ones where the entire starting five (at least 94 and 95) were NBA players or draft picks. Of course, we know that they were also a bit soft and that led to our chokes to Florida and Miss. St. and just being outgunned by farking Toby Bailey in 95.
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I rank them:

1) 2004 - That team did look like 1990 UNLV at times. They could destroy teams when they were hitting on all cylinders.

2) 1999 - really good team with quality at every position and a couple of stars.

3) 1995 - Ray, Doron, Donny, and Travis were tough to stop. Ollie was excellent at the point and Fair was effective off the bench when he wasn't in the doghouse. This should have been Calhoun's first championship.

4) 2011 - This team was young, but Kemba was the best player in the Tournament and there was enough complementary talent to make UConn one of the contenders going in.

5) 2006 - Everyone hates on this team, but the talent was amazing. Marcus Williams was the best point guard we had prior to Kemba, and the front court was very good. This team had some chemistry issues, but I think the biggest problem was lack of a second ballhandler.

6) 2014 - no future NBA stars, but this team was strong at every position and had a solid bench. Napier was dominant when he needed to be.

7) 1994 - Donyell was excellent, but the supporting cast was not nearly as good as they would all be a year later.

8) 2009 - Good team. Price and Thabeet were good, not dominant. This was one of those supreme chemistry teams, especially after Dyson got hurt.

9) 1990 - Smith was an amazing college guard even if his game didn't translate to the next level, and this team played as well together as any UConn team, ever.

10) 1998 - very young team. Everyone could tell at the time that this team was a year away.

11) 1996 - This team was really good on paper and played well together, but when you boiled it down it was a 2 man offense that was susceptible to Allen having an off game.

12) 2003 - this team wasn't quite ready for prime time, but I will always believe that UConn would have made the Final Four if it had a better officiating crew for the game against Texas.

13) 2002 - As one-man-show as any UConn team in history, and we were still only a couple of bad calls against Okafor from making the Final Four.

14) 2000 - This team was pretty good, and definitely would have made the Sweet 16 if KEA hadn't sprained his ankle against Utah State.

15) 1991 - how did this team beat Shaq and Tyrone Hill in back to back games?
 
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