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[Brochacho]

The Hornets are a playoff team next year. They were a spicy squad this year and finished 3 games out of the playoffs. They added 2 lottery talents, a first round talent, Plumlee, and learned Cody Zeller is moving on.

 

[ThabeetDown]

The Hornets are a playoff team next year. They were a spicy squad this year and finished 3 games out of the playoffs. They added 2 lottery talents, a first round talent, Plumlee, and learned Cody Zeller is moving on.

You mention adding a Plumlee as a reason to make the playoffs and yet talked down on my post? LOL. My dude...

 

[BGesus4]

You guys act like one good pick in 20 years changes everything. Fine Melo is good. Maybe PJ and Bridges are too. This is not a good place for NBA careers. The numbers don't lie. It's a tough spill to swallow especially if you have blinders on as a fan (and as Knicks fan myself I get this). God forbid I want the kid to go somewhere that won't make his career harder than I have to.

I think you mean bad teams are bad for careers. People would’ve said similar stuff about the bucks and the suns not too many years ago. If they end up being good, it’ll be good.

 

[Fatroony5]

You guys act like one good pick in 20 years changes everything. Fine Melo is good. Maybe PJ and Bridges are too. This is not a good place for NBA careers. The numbers don't lie. It's a tough spill to swallow especially if you have blinders on as a fan (and as Knicks fan myself I get this). God forbid I want the kid to go somewhere that won't make his career harder than I have to.

So the new regime that drafts and develops Lamelo, Bridges, Graham, PJ, McDaniels, and gets Rozier to play at a career level get no credit? The Hornets were awful for a long time, but Mitch and Borrego actually have this thing headed in the right direction. They have real player development now and a game that fits the modern NBA. For a team full of “ball hogs” they were top 5 in assists last season. Had Hayward not gotten hurt (and half their team) they would’ve been a top 5 team in the East. This is a good team and he fits right in off the bench. They aren’t keeping Rozier, Graham, and Monk long term. This is a really good spot for Bouknight to get to play with Graham and Bridges in the second unit and Hayward who doesn’t need the ball much. I love the fit.

 

[Brochacho]

You mention adding a Plumlee as a reason to make the playoffs and yet talked down on my post? LOL. My dude...

Good teams need good role players. I really like their roster composition after last night.

 

[navery12]

I watch plenty of NBA. Only one ball and one basket to shoot on pals. Both Melo and Bouk need the ball in their hands to work. Bouk is not a spot up shooter.

You're just so blatantly wrong about the Hornets, it's funny. LaMelo and Bouk will have no problem playing together, this was the perfect spot and where I was hoping he'd up all spring

 

[87Xfer]

He'll start by January. 25+ a game. Unless Gaffney totally changes his mentality Hawkins is a better player once he adjusts to the speed of the game. 2-3 inches taller, way better defender, a little better shooter, more athletic, and much more aggressive. Gaff is a better passer though for sure and has a better handle, of still not great.

Still love Gaff and his role. But they're not the same caliber of player in terms of potential.

Hope you're right!

 

[CL82]

We really doing this again???

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This one cracks me up:

 

[MDHuskFan]

You guys act like one good pick in 20 years changes everything. Fine Melo is good. Maybe PJ and Bridges are too. This is not a good place for NBA careers. The numbers don't lie. It's a tough spill to swallow especially if you have blinders on as a fan (and as Knicks fan myself I get this). God forbid I want the kid to go somewhere that won't make his career harder than I have to.

If numbers don’t lie, consider this. They’ve hit on their past 3 picks. It’s not the same regime drafting that picked most of those “bums” you listed

 

[mauconnfan]

The question was asked about what he was feeling as he got drafted, he said he was sad to slip a bit but his heart sunk after hearing his name. Also, as someone who lives in Charlotte and is actually a Hornets fan, lot of people in this thread clearly don’t watch the team much. They aren’t keeping Rozier, Graham, and Monk. He and Ball are on a much different timeline, it’s going to be a great pairing and getting to run with Graham and Bridges off the bench for now is perfect for him.

"The role I was in at UConn i was unable to show my playmaking abilities...." ok!!

 

[WhereistheDove?]

I watch plenty of NBA. Only one ball and one basket to shoot on pals. Both Melo and Bouk need the ball in their hands to work. Bouk is not a spot up shooter.

This is one of those situations where you made an uninformed bad take (Lamelo somehow being the same type of players as Bouknight) and got called on it. Just move on, there's no need to move the goalposts to another bad take (Lamelo and Bouknight won't be able to coexist).

 

[CL82]

It’s amazing how much poise a lot of these young guys have with the media asking them the same questions over and over

I like his answer to people who asked about his expression when his name was called. Essentially it was that he was so happy he
didn't know whether to laugh or cry, so (he) just played it cool."

 

[auror]

Bouk will not only be fighting for minutes with the likes of Melo Ball, Terry Rozier, Devonate Graham, Malik Monk and Gordon Heyward, how will he get shots up? Especially with notable ball hogs Ball and Rozier.

Monk and Graham are free agents. Both restricted, but neither are starters and as they just drafted Bouk, it would be unlikely for them to retain both, possibly neither as Graham may earn too much.

Rozier is a PG (and on the last year of his deal), so not competing with Bouk. Hayward is more of a wing in this stage of his career and doesn't need the ball (and keeps it moving in general), so it a nice fit with Bouk.

Melo has great size and can play alongside Bouk. There is some overlap in desire to be on ball, but Melo is more of a playmaker and Bouk more of a shot creator, so there is plenty of room for specialization.

 

[Deepelm]

The question was asked about what he was feeling as he got drafted, he said he was sad to slip a bit but his heart sunk after hearing his name. Also, as someone who lives in Charlotte and is actually a Hornets fan, lot of people in this thread clearly don’t watch the team much. They aren’t keeping Rozier, Graham, and Monk. He and Ball are on a much different timeline, it’s going to be a great pairing and getting to run with Graham and Bridges off the bench for now is perfect for him.

Well said. I live here as well and was super pumped up when he fell to us. Two great young guards for Coach to work with is going to be fun to watch. We were closer this year, would love to have seen what we could do fully healthy all year.

 

[Deepelm]

the town that got rid of kamba,….ok

Freaking clueless lmao.

 

[Get a Job]

Freaking clueless lmao.

No, he's right! There was a popular martial arts school in Charlotte that taught the ancient, mystical art of kamba before running afoul of the bigwigs at City Hall. The bastards ran them right out of town!

 

[slepers]

I think it’s a GREAT spot for him. Yes there were better situations out there for him, but this is almost as good as it gets I believe. He will play a lot there and there’s a lot of buzz and optimism around that team now, so he can show off in the spotlight that’s there from last year. It’s really up to him. Jeremy Lamb career or Ray Allen. I think he can go either way.

Are you saying that Jeremy is having a bad career? Not sure but I bet he has done ok with his bank account and life.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Are you saying that Jeremy is having a bad career? Not sure but I bet he has done ok with his bank account and life.

Jeremy was <this close> to being out of the league and found a niche and has become a valuable role player. Career average of about 10.5 points and has averaged about 12-13 over past four seasons. Made over $50m in his career. Nothing to sneeze about at all. If that is Bouk's basement, he's in good shape.

That being said no one is suggesting Lamb's career is anywhere near as accomplished as Ray's.

So, yes, there is plenty of room to be as good or better than Lamb, without denigrating Lamb's career.

 

[HuskyFich]

I feel so bad for James. Came back after the surgery when he didn't have to. Put in the extra work since the season ended (arguably one of those that helped himself the best since the NCAAB season ended). All the hype (an unfortunate machine) had him going easily into the Top 10 at a team that would properly develop him. All of that to end up in an absolutely terrible situation. Terrible luck for the kid.

Absolutely terrible fit for James. We already saw how Charlotte ruined Kemba's prime, not looking forward to seeing James waste away in this miserable organization/city. For how good MJ was as a player is how bad he is as an exec. Bouk will not only be fighting for minutes with the likes of Melo Ball, Terry Rozier, Devonate Graham, Malik Monk and Gordon Heyward, how will he get shots up? Especially with notable ball hogs Ball and Rozier.

Other than ending up in a place like Cleveland or Sacramento, this is the absolutely worst case scenario for James. He would have been better off even going to the Spurs next or even Pacers at 13 or would have struck gold with the Warriors at 14 (who I think will regret passing him up at 7).

Charlotte is where your NBA career dies sadly, and for James it might be over before it even starts. Before you call me dramatic, look at the the Hornets first round draft picks over time and tell me one player you feel like benefited from being in that terrible organization:

• 2004: Okafor -- while he had his back injuries, got to be the first pick for an expansion team which means you're destined for failure right awy
• 2005: Ray Felton -- had his best years in the NBA years later as a Knick of all places
• 2005: Sean May -- out of the NBA after only 119 games
• 2006: Adam Morrison -- one of the best college scorers of all time became an instant bust playing for them
• 2007: Jared Dudley -- left the Hornets after 94 games luckily for him as he was able to carve out a nice NBA career away from them
• 2008: DJ Augustin -- starting point guard on a team that won 7 games
• 2008: Alex Ajinca -- Lasted 34 games in Charlotte. As a first round pick.
• 2009: Gerald Henderson -- The leading scorer on a 7 win team!
• 2011: Kemba -- Wasted his early years on abysmal teams, willed the miserable franchise to the playoffs as he became an All-Star. By the time he made it out of the dump his age sadly caught up to him with injuries
• 2012: MKG -- Mega bust after missing out on AD
• 2013: Cody Zeller -- Has averaged 8.7 ppg over EIGHT seasons as the NUMBER FOUR overall pick
• 2014: Noah Vonleh -- Lasted 25 games in Charlotte before being traded
• 2015: Frank Kaminsky -- Another top-10 pick that has averaged under 10 ppg through his career
• 2017: Malik Monk -- A scoring guard that hasn't scored in four seasons. Averaging 9.1 ppg on 40% shooting
• 2018*: Miles Bridges -- I didn't include him at first b/c he was a trade, but fine I'll include him. 10.8 PPG over his first 3 seasons shooting 46%. There is some hope with him (and PJ/Melo). Only took 14 years other than Kemba to have someone that was halfway decent.
• 2019: PJ Washington -- The #12 overall pick is averaging 12.6 & 6 over his two first seasons. Other than Kemba and Lamelo Ball he's 3rd in ppg among this list...
• 2020: Melo Ball -- Eyyyyy a Rookie of the Year. But essentially the same type of player as Bouk. So the Hornets have arguably two successful draft picks (and saying Melo is a success after ONE season is pushing it) with Melo and Kemba in 15+ years.

So yeah, sorry I'm negative, but this franchise's track record speaks for itself. A terrible spot for Bouk and I hope he gets out ASAP. No offense to any of its residents but Charlotte is the most average city I've ever been too. Sure its not a bad place to live but it ain't special either. Everything about it is average. The food. The buildings. The weather. The people. Just average. Better than being a dump I suppose. If only the Hornets were average back...

When's the last time you were in Charlotte?and where do you reside?

Cause being in Charlotte, I can tell you it's a hell of a lot better than anything CT has to offer lol.

..and I know this is a message board, but clumping an entire city as average people tells me everything I really need to know about ya. Hope your outlook on life improves.

 

[krinklecut]

When's the last time you were in Charlotte?and where do you reside?

Cause being in Charlotte, I can tell you it's a hell of a lot better than anything CT has to offer lol

Seriously. When I was living in Alabama we used to like to drive up to CT instead of fly. Always stopped in Charlotte for a day or two. Really cool city.

 

[NC_Uconn_Fan]

When's the last time you were in Charlotte?and where do you reside?

Cause being in Charlotte, I can tell you it's a hell of a lot better than anything CT has to offer lol.

Don't get sucked into his bitter nonsense rant. I moved to the Charlotte area in 2004 after growing up in CT. Charlotte is a wonderful city and the people are great. I wouldn't live anywhere else.

 

[Fatroony5]

When's the last time you were in Charlotte?and where do you reside?

Cause being in Charlotte, I can tell you it's a hell of a lot better than anything CT has to offer lol.

..and I know this is a message board, but clumping an entire city as average people tells me everything I really need to know about ya. Hope your outlook on life improves.

Don't get sucked into his bitter nonsense rant. I moved to the Charlotte area in 2004 after growing up in CT. Charlotte is a wonderful city and the people are great. I wouldn't live anywhere else.

I think it’s weird how many people feel the need to knock down Charlotte. It’s not a great place compared to what? Charlottes it’s own city, it’s not trying to be Boston or Seattle, of course it’s not those cities lol. As far as live able decent sized cities, it’s a good place to live. And a town like Charlotte rallies behind big players like Melo, Kemba, Cam, Luke Kuechly etc. Kemba loved Charlotte and still has a house here. James is coming into a really good situation and has plenty of time to grow into a good role. He’s going to excel playing along side guys like Ball, Bridges, Graham, and Hayward. He can just be him and play through his mistakes while giving them a potent option off the bench. I’m excited for him.

 

[CTBasketball]

Bad draft class? Are you sure you’re not thinking of the 2020 draft? This is one of the deepest drafts in the last 20 years.

Nah.

 

[aceboon]

I feel so bad for James. Came back after the surgery when he didn't have to. Put in the extra work since the season ended (arguably one of those that helped himself the best since the NCAAB season ended). All the hype (an unfortunate machine) had him going easily into the Top 10 at a team that would properly develop him. All of that to end up in an absolutely terrible situation. Terrible luck for the kid.

Absolutely terrible fit for James. We already saw how Charlotte ruined Kemba's prime, not looking forward to seeing James waste away in this miserable organization/city. For how good MJ was as a player is how bad he is as an exec. Bouk will not only be fighting for minutes with the likes of Melo Ball, Terry Rozier, Devonate Graham, Malik Monk and Gordon Heyward, how will he get shots up? Especially with notable ball hogs Ball and Rozier.

Other than ending up in a place like Cleveland or Sacramento, this is the absolutely worst case scenario for James. He would have been better off even going to the Spurs next or even Pacers at 13 or would have struck gold with the Warriors at 14 (who I think will regret passing him up at 7).

Charlotte is where your NBA career dies sadly, and for James it might be over before it even starts. Before you call me dramatic, look at the the Hornets first round draft picks over time and tell me one player you feel like benefited from being in that terrible organization:

• 2004: Okafor -- while he had his back injuries, got to be the first pick for an expansion team which means you're destined for failure right awy
• 2005: Ray Felton -- had his best years in the NBA years later as a Knick of all places
• 2005: Sean May -- out of the NBA after only 119 games
• 2006: Adam Morrison -- one of the best college scorers of all time became an instant bust playing for them
• 2007: Jared Dudley -- left the Hornets after 94 games luckily for him as he was able to carve out a nice NBA career away from them
• 2008: DJ Augustin -- starting point guard on a team that won 7 games
• 2008: Alex Ajinca -- Lasted 34 games in Charlotte. As a first round pick.
• 2009: Gerald Henderson -- The leading scorer on a 7 win team!
• 2011: Kemba -- Wasted his early years on abysmal teams, willed the miserable franchise to the playoffs as he became an All-Star. By the time he made it out of the dump his age sadly caught up to him with injuries
• 2012: MKG -- Mega bust after missing out on AD
• 2013: Cody Zeller -- Has averaged 8.7 ppg over EIGHT seasons as the NUMBER FOUR overall pick
• 2014: Noah Vonleh -- Lasted 25 games in Charlotte before being traded
• 2015: Frank Kaminsky -- Another top-10 pick that has averaged under 10 ppg through his career
• 2017: Malik Monk -- A scoring guard that hasn't scored in four seasons. Averaging 9.1 ppg on 40% shooting
• 2018*: Miles Bridges -- I didn't include him at first b/c he was a trade, but fine I'll include him. 10.8 PPG over his first 3 seasons shooting 46%. There is some hope with him (and PJ/Melo). Only took 14 years other than Kemba to have someone that was halfway decent.
• 2019: PJ Washington -- The #12 overall pick is averaging 12.6 & 6 over his two first seasons. Other than Kemba and Lamelo Ball he's 3rd in ppg among this list...
• 2020: Melo Ball -- Eyyyyy a Rookie of the Year. But essentially the same type of player as Bouk. So the Hornets have arguably two successful draft picks (and saying Melo is a success after ONE season is pushing it) with Melo and Kemba in 15+ years.

So yeah, sorry I'm negative, but this franchise's track record speaks for itself. A terrible spot for Bouk and I hope he gets out ASAP. No offense to any of its residents but Charlotte is the most average city I've ever been too. Sure its not a bad place to live but it ain't special either. Everything about it is average. The food. The buildings. The weather. The people. Just average. Better than being a dump I suppose. If only the Hornets were average back...

You are so damn clueless it hurts, lol. Its a fact that the Hornets did not do a good job building around Kemba and his best years with his knees were wasted, but Melo already has more help around him than Kemba did, the organization is headed in a much better direction. Monk and Graham are free agents and its unlikely either will be back, let alone both, so there's an opportunity for Bouk to come in and earn minutes right away. Also, saying Bouk and Melo are the same type of player just shows you don't watch basketball because they're nothing alike.

 

[imno1]

The fact that they pulled the trigger on Bouk tells me the organization is heading in the right direction. There are going to be few teams who will regret passing on him.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

the town that got rid of kamba,….ok

Wasn’t it the other way around ?

 

[Mr. Hand]

Being picked 11th in the NBA draft is "falling."

He can now console himself by literally wrapping himself in a blanket made of $100 bills.

#FirstWorldProblems

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Being picked 11th in the NBA draft is "falling."

He can now console himself by literally wrapping himself in a blanket made of $100 bills.

#FirstWorldProblems

Yeah it's worth remembering that at the end of the season some of our resident draft gurus thought Bouknight's ceiling was the late first round, I remember the "LOL still think he's getting drafted in the first round?" post from one of them.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

Nah.

Lol, you’re doubling down on being dead wrong.

 

[Waquoit]

You are so damn clueless it hurts, lol. Its a fact that the Hornets did not do a good job building around Kemba and his best years with his knees were wasted, but Melo already has more help around him than Kemba did, the organization is headed in a much better direction. Monk and Graham are free agents and its unlikely either will be back, let alone both, so there's an opportunity for Bouk to come in and earn minutes right away. Also, saying Bouk and Melo are the same type of player just shows you don't watch basketball because they're nothing alike.

Not just earn minutes. the Ringer said he will lead the team in scoring.