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#1 South Carolina vs #1 Stanford - 4/02/21

Who will win this game?

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I haaaaaaate losing. But we lost to the best team. I’m slowly coming to terms. Next years SC team will be a force.
 
JDuro said:
I agree. There’s no feeling of a lost opportunity like it might have felt 3+ years ago Awhen UConn used to be the big juggernaut. That’s not been the case of late. They’re wasn’t a huge gap between U of A and UConn and that bore out tonight. The best team on that half of the bracket was Baylor.

Tonight, SC played the best team in the tourney that we would have preferred had been opposite us when the bracket was released. I’ve come to terms with the loss - relatively quickly actually, and now I’m ready for next season as there is much to be excited.
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On paper there is a huge gap between UConn and Arizona. A large part of it was just simply Arizona had nothing to lose while UConn players each and every game have to bear the weight of this program. Honestly I think that's what kills them. You hear the players talk about it all the time. Arizona has no history. If they get blown out tonight by 30 who cares? UConn doesn't win tonight and you have some crazy folks calling to replace Geno. That kind of says it all. Now imagine what the players feel.
 
willtalk said:
The sort of # 1 ranking does not mean as much as it appeared. It was based purely on won lost records and who should logically be ranked # 1a t that point in time. No one expected it to be the final ranking. Had it been I doubt they would have been ranked #1. When you expect the tournament to settle the issue not that much emphasis is placed on who is number one at that point in time. I believe most people favored Oregon to win the National Championship and thought they were the better team, but didn't think it was out of line for the GemeCocks to be voted number one.

Being voted number one in the poles before all the cames have been completed does not mean that you are the unchallenged best team in WCBB. Staley has a distroted sense of logic. But them people in athletics have an inflated sense of their own evaluatory opinions in just about any area outside of athletics.
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Tell it to the people who vote in those polls. For them, they were LITERALLY their final rankings - they were the final poll rankings that they published. Of course, typically there is an invitational tournament for the top teams to play against each other in, to determine who the best of the best are. Often the tournament committee may go their own way in seeding teams for it, but very most often the top seeds generally turn out very much so like the rankings of those final polls.

Again, this group of people you designate as "most people" obviously didn't involve those people who vote in those polls, as only 10 total people in them - both polls, mind you - actually voted Oregon as #1 over South Carolina.

As to Staley, how's about this for distorted logic: interpreting a banner to say "unchallenged" where the word "unchallenged" is nowhere on said banner, and then using that interpretation as the basis for a debate that Staley's "logic" is distorted, and coming to a declarative conclusion about Staley's "evaluatory opinion" somehow, regarding a word that doesn't even exist on the banner, and has not been spoken by Staley.

Yep, that logic is about as distorted as it gets....like a man made out of straw......
 
SCGamecock said:
This was one of the most competitive years for WCBB and I think next year could be even better. I know for a fact SC and UConn will be out to make heads roll all season..
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I suspect there be at least 7-8 very dangerous teams next season with 3/4 of the Final Four probably improving.

of course you can never tell what newcomers will do for chemistry.
 
Gamecockfan77 said:
I suspect there be at least 7-8 very dangerous teams next season with 3/4 of the Final Four probably improving.

of course you can never tell what newcomers will do for chemistry.
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I have South Carolina, UConn, Stanford, and Baylor as the preseason top 4 next year!
 
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hoopsfan22 said:
On paper there is a huge gap between UConn and Arizona. A large part of it was just simply Arizona had nothing to lose while UConn players each and every game have to bear the weight of this program. Honestly I think that's what kills them. You hear the players talk about it all the time. Arizona has no history. If they get blown out tonight by 30 who cares? UConn doesn't win tonight and you have some crazy folks calling to replace Geno. That kind of says it all. Now imagine what the players feel.
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I did saw some one on the main side stating that he should do like Roy Williams and retire. I don't know if he was serious or trolling.
 
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SCGamecock said:
This was one of the most competitive years for WCBB and I think next year could be even better. I know for a fact SC and UConn will be out to make heads roll all season..
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Agreed. Stanford, Baylor and Maryland look extremely potent too. Oregon could be dangerous and Texas too if Vic gets a couple of the MSU transfers. Might be some other surprises too like Arizona, A&M, Indiana and Maryland this year. I expect the parity to continue even with SC and UCONN looking the most talented on paper.
 
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bballnut90 said:
Agreed. Stanford, Baylor and Maryland look extremely potent too. Oregon could be dangerous and Texas too if Vic gets a couple of the MSU transfers. Might be some other surprises too like Arizona, A&M, Indiana and Maryland this year. I expect the parity to continue even with SC and UCONN looking the most talented on paper.
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I would put Stanford right there with SCar and UConn talent wise. Their 2021 class is very good and 2022 is shaping up very well.
 
Interested to see if Williams returns or not for Stanford. She's a calming presence and really good floor leader for them.
 
DaBball said:
Interested to see if Williams returns or not for Stanford. She's a calming presence and really good floor leader for them.
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She talks as if this is her last year, and she's in the first round of WNBA mock drafts I've seen. So I doubt it.

I'm still hoping for Wilson to return.
 
CompSci87 said:
She talks as if this is her last year, and she's in the first round of WNBA mock drafts I've seen. So I doubt it.

I'm still hoping for Wilson to return.
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Who will be your backcourt next year if both leave?
 
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shiverz45 said:
Who will be your backcourt next year if both leave?
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I’ll take a stab.

Van Gytenbeek and Jenna Brown (who will return from injury) are probably the lone true point guards. Hull twins, Hannah Jump, and Emma-Nnopu on the wings. Haley Jones wherever needed.
 
Van Gytenbeek seems like the heir apparent at point. She needs to improve her handle, but otherwise looks good. I like Jenna Brown, but she needs to be able to shoot to get playing time.

Tara could go with a taller player at the 2 guard spot. Jump, Lacie, or one of the frosh. Brooke Demetre is listed as a 6'3" guard (!).

But it would be great to have Wilson one more year to let the younger guards have a year to grow before one starts.
 
CompSci87 said:
Van Gytenbeek seems like the heir apparent at point. She needs to improve her handle, but otherwise looks good. I like Jenna Brown, but she needs to be able to shoot to get playing time.

Tara could go with a taller player at the 2 guard spot. Jump, Lacie, or one of the frosh. Brooke Demetre is listed as a 6'3" guard (!).

But it would be great to have Wilson one more year to let the younger guards have a year to grow before one starts.
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I am also really, really hoping we land Kiki Rice. I think she'd be our best long-term solution at the point. I like Van Gytenbeek a lot, and she's shown flashes of something special, but I'm not yet confident that she has what we need for her to run the point for a national champion-caliber team. Given all the other pieces we have, that has to be the aspiration over the next few seasons. Ki actually didn't play the point in HS, but she has such an arsenal of jump shots- step back, step aside, tear drop, stop and pop - not to mention extremely long 3-pt range, that she can be a less than perfect point and still open up the offense with her speed, flow, and ability to create on offense. I think JVG is actually a more natural point but I haven't seen as much variety in her offense, which I really think will be necessary for the Princeton that Tara is running these days.
 
hoopsfan22 said:
On paper there is a huge gap between UConn and Arizona. A large part of it was just simply Arizona had nothing to lose while UConn players each and every game have to bear the weight of this program. Honestly I think that's what kills them. You hear the players talk about it all the time. Arizona has no history. If they get blown out tonight by 30 who cares? UConn doesn't win tonight and you have some crazy folks calling to replace Geno. That kind of says it all. Now imagine what the players feel.
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Geno is 67; I wonder how much longer he's going to coach? He'd be 72 when Azzi graduates. Of course, Boeheim is still coaching at 76. I wish the coaches with nothing left to prove would retire and give up and coming coaches a chance for head jobs.
 
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