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1 or 2 Seed Better?

RuffRuff said:


I've seen this now a couple times, but if they ever do put StJ as the 5 seed in our bracket, it would be the biggest crock. You put the second highest BE seed tucked in?
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They would not do this. You put the first 3 teams from each conference into different regions as a rule.
 
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BigErnMcCracken said:
We played Otzelberger.
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FfldCntyFan said:
When did we play FAU?
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UConn played and beat Iowa State and Otzelberger in the 2022 Phil Knight Invitational.

Never played May when he was at FAU, as people pointed out already.

UConn and Hurley played Houston and Sampson twice in 2019 (lost both times) and went 1-1 against Houston and Sampson in 2020. So they've played each other at least 4 times.

Other than all that it was an excellent take. RuffRuff never seems to let facts get in the way of his posts. 😀
 
this Houston L should put an end to this silly debate once and for all. There’s a gap between the 1 seeds (including UConn) and the 2 seeds and there’s an even bigger gap between the 3 and 4 seeds.
 
bendm said:
this Houston L should put an end to this silly debate once and for all. There’s a gap between the 1 seeds (including UConn) and the 2 seeds and there’s an even bigger gap between the 3 and 4 seeds.
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I think Purdue and Florida now have the best chance to come at us for the #1 seed. Iowa State closest now, but they're likely to lose to Arizona. Purdue and Florida have 3 Q1 games left each they will be heavily favored in and then should do damage in their conf tournys from high seeds.

But think we have the best shot at it.
 
bendm said:
this Houston L should put an end to this silly debate once and for all. There’s a gap between the 1 seeds (including UConn) and the 2 seeds and there’s an even bigger gap between the 3 and 4 seeds.
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Cross Houston out. No chance. ISU needs a road win and FL or Illinois could go on runs.

Florida has one of the better losses on year by a basket at Duke. Also vs Zona, vs UConn.
 
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auror said:
I think Purdue and Florida now have the best chance to come at us for the #1 seed. Iowa State closest now, but they're likely to lose to Arizona. Purdue and Florida have 3 Q1 games left each they will be heavily favored in and then should do damage in their conf tournys from high seeds.

But think we have the best shot at it.
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If Illinois beats UM they have an outside chance.
 
Get the 1 seed for the easier Sweet 16 matchup and the fan ego boost. If it’s Houston in Houston at this point, bring it on
 
UConnSportsGuy said:
Is Scheyer still coaching Duke? Then I'll take Duke as a potential Elite 8 matchup any day of the week (and twice on Sunday) just on its own.

But when weighed against having to play a potential team in the Elite 8 in their home state...it is not even a debate.

Want to hear an incredible factoid that I don't think people realize :

In the past 20 years, UConn has only lost two games after the first weekend of the tournament--and they were both us having to play a team in their home state/location.

In the last 35 years, UConn has only lost 8 games after the first weekend. Of those 8 total losses for UConn...6 of them were us having to play against a team in their home state/location.

So UConn essentially either blows it in the first weekend, gets stuck having to play an away game in the NCAA tournament, or wins the Championship. That is crazy to me.

Here are all of our NCAA losses in the past 35 years after the first weekend:

2009 vs Michigan State in Detroit, MI
2006 vs George Mason in Washington, DC
2003 vs Texas in San Antonio, TX
2002 vs Maryland in Syracuse, NY
1998 vs North Carolina in Greensboro, NC
1996 vs Mississippi State in Lexington, KY
1995 vs UCLA in Oakland, CA
1994 vs Florida in Miami, FL
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didn’t maryland beat us in dc
 
after watching houston get blown out by kansas i fear them less even in houston . despite saturday’s result michigan is the best team in country . any of projected top 3 seeds except purdue but including the johnies can make a wide open final four …. and the way the sec has more top talented teams in football the big 12 has in basketball
 
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RuffRuff said:
If Illinois beats UM they have an outside chance.
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They have 6 Ls and just lost to ucla. If ISU loses to Zona We’re back to controlling our own destiny for a 1 seeds
 
bendm said:
They have 6 Ls and just lost to ucla. If ISU loses to Zona We’re back to controlling our own destiny for a 1 seeds
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100%

Illinois has 3 OT losses and impressive wins and metrics. They’re not out of the convo yet if they win out.
 
The top 3 teams are head and shoulders above the rest. As long as we're #4 or #5 overall, we'll avoid them until the Final Four. The name of the game at this point is finishing above ISU or Houston.

At this point the Committee shouldn't put Houston in the South as a #1 or, worse, a #2 -- that's too much of an advantage for a team that hasn't earned it. Doesn't mean they won't do it, just they shouldn't.

If we and ISU are #1/2 in the South in some order, that's fine.
 
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Tenspro2002 said:
The top 3 teams are head and shoulders above the rest. As long as we're #4 or #5 overall, we'll avoid them until the Final Four. The name of the game at this point is finishing above ISU or Houston.

At this point the Committee shouldn't put Houston in the South as a #1 or, worse, a #2 -- that's too much of an advantage for a team that hasn't earned it. Doesn't mean they won't do it, just they shouldn't.

If we and ISU are #1/2 in the South in some order, that's fine.
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Tomorrow night is so big. If we can win, and then take care of Seton Hall at home on Senior Day, and then after a week off win at Marquette, we go into the BET with 3 losses.

Houston has 5 losses. Their schedule entering the Big 12 tournament is favorable, but they lack great wins on their resume. They probably need to win the Big 12 tournament to get a 1 seed.

Iowa St has 4 losses, but still has a wounded Texas Tech at home and then a road trip to Arizona. Hopefully they also go into the Big 12 tournament with at least 5 losses.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
The top 3 teams are head and shoulders above the rest. As long as we're #4 or #5 overall, we'll avoid them until the Final Four. The name of the game at this point is finishing above ISU or Houston.

At this point the Committee shouldn't put Houston in the South as a #1 or, worse, a #2 -- that's too much of an advantage for a team that hasn't earned it. Doesn't mean they won't do it, just they shouldn't.

If we and ISU are #1/2 in the South in some order, that's fine.
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I understand why you say that the "top 3 teams are head and shoulders above the rest". But we did play Arizona close without two starters. That did happen. I am not sure that we are that far behind those teams because turnovers and free throws are correctable issues. And as Coach Hurley intimated after the Nova game: we are a tougher matchup for non-Big East teams. Guaranteed none of those "Top 3 teams" want any part of us in March.
 
UConnSportsGuy said:
Is Scheyer still coaching Duke? Then I'll take Duke as a potential Elite 8 matchup any day of the week (and twice on Sunday) just on its own.

But when weighed against having to play a potential team in the Elite 8 in their home state...it is not even a debate.

Want to hear an incredible factoid that I don't think people realize :

In the past 20 years, UConn has only lost two games after the first weekend of the tournament--and they were both us having to play a team in their home state/location.

In the last 35 years, UConn has only lost 8 games after the first weekend. Of those 8 total losses for UConn...6 of them were us having to play against a team in their home state/location.

So UConn essentially either blows it in the first weekend, gets stuck having to play an away game in the NCAA tournament, or wins the Championship. That is crazy to me.

Here are all of our NCAA losses in the past 35 years after the first weekend:

2009 vs Michigan State in Detroit, MI
2006 vs George Mason in Washington, DC
2003 vs Texas in San Antonio, TX
2002 vs Maryland in Syracuse, NY
1998 vs North Carolina in Greensboro, NC
1996 vs Mississippi State in Lexington, KY
1995 vs UCLA in Oakland, CA
1994 vs Florida in Miami, FL
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The 2 losses that bother me the most were to Miss State and Florida. Sorry for hijacking.
 
I would want no part of Houston in Houston given our tournament history playing teams in their home state let alone in their home city. Even with that loss last night they are still formidable. With that said we would be best served with avoiding the big 3 as long as possible that would entail being the 4 or 5 overall seed. The 1 is still preferable as the potential sweet 16 match-up is much more favorable from the 1 seed slot.
 
FearThePups said:
The 2 losses that bother me the most were to Miss State and Florida. Sorry for hijacking.
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Last year's loss? Anyone acting like that team last year had any chance to make a run is way overindexing on the Hurley is built for March thing. Like way. I know this will incite some to come after me, but that team was not built to do anything deep. It had no PG, could not defend worth anything. It barely beat Oklahoma the game before, lost to 8 seed Creighton the week prior and would have had to go through a series of much better teams to make a run. I know it would have felt great to get that one win as a consolation prize to an otherwise disappointing 3peat run, but no way that team was going far.

Miss St I get.
 
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