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  1. upstater

    Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

    The Athletic Director at Texas A&M went to the board and got the President fired a few years ago for telling him he could not have another $30m budget mistake. The stakeholders in West Virginia and many other places have already shown they don't much care for the health of the university. I'm...
  2. upstater

    Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

    But this doesn't take costs into account, while the bean counters DO take costs into account. If the average is well below expenses, you've effectively de-incentivized departments to take athletes as students. Because the bosses will surely hold that against departments when it comes to the metrics.
  3. upstater

    Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

    Im the father of a HS senior and I didn't even realize that you only fill out the particulars ONCE, then answer 1 to 5 specific questions for each school. This is easy.
  4. upstater

    Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

    The President is the head of the organization; hired to do what's best for the long-term health of the university. If the university is making bad decisions and he's worried about extending his $1m+ salary, there's a conflict there, agreed? This means that the boosters, alumni, and all those who...
  5. upstater

    Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

    You're overblowing it. You can see each school's total royalties as a line item in the ADs revenue. Doesn't that make this argument moot? The academic side isn't making a bundle off of merchandise. This is athletics revenue.
  6. upstater

    Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

    The only hitch to this is how much do they owe on facilities? Like Cal-Berkeley. They don't need sports there. UC San Diego doesn't have them and they are doing just fine down there. But Cal needs a revenue stream because they owe so much money on their facilities. Don't know about Northwestern.
  7. upstater

    Non-Key Tweets

    Yet schools have been kicked out of the AAU by their P4 conference mates in the last 20 years. When you get in front of that board and say, "These are my friends, I want them in" you will be laughed at, because so many schools are on the verge of getting the heave-ho in an era when we have...
  8. upstater

    Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

    Good point about the mix of applicants changing with an athletic conference switch, but you can only do that so many times. I do accept that schools like BC and maybe UConn and certainly Gonzaga have a huge change from sports, but for schools like UConn, that's mostly gone. We live in a world...
  9. upstater

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    Even if that were true, are you saying that colleges without sports don't sell a lot of these things? Because they do. The brand income (which falls under royalties) is not at all that much different than at comparable sized institutions without big time sports. And to top it off, royalties are...
  10. upstater

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    I already addressed everything in this discussion except the last part. I addressed them by mentioning all the other schools that are doing just as well as UConn without a sports brand. Heck, Vermont is now at well over 50% out of state and they pay exorbitant sums to go there, and their...
  11. upstater

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    Now you are. Agree. I'm just saying there's this idea out there that the money the state puts into it can continue indefinitely. It's a curious idea when they are slashing and burning at the same time people are saying that.
  12. upstater

    Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

    What marketing? Be specific. I specifically answered a question about where the money goes. All you talked about was an imputed benefit of marketing. How does the History department benefit from that marketing? The athletic department is being charged for the true cost of each athlete...
  13. upstater

    Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

    Not only are athletics being pitted against academics in today's world, but so are academics. University life today is a fight to the death.
  14. upstater

    Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

    Are you a sports franchise or a college? Do you ever see NYU kids wearing NYU apparel? Yes. That must be because of their great basketball program. What about Yale? Ever see a Yale sweatshirt? If you legislature only subsidizes education (and it's not enough anyway) when the basketball team...
  15. upstater

    Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

    All money is managed by the financial manager's office in the form of credits and debts. Whether that comes from the bursar (student accounts), the private foundations (endowment and research), running food services, or student housing, an academic department, or the AD. So, for instance, if...
  16. upstater

    Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

    Football Saturdays are different. First off, you have the 20,000 who live on campus. But most people come in over night on college campuses. People camp out in RVs and such and tailgate. I've been around Penn State when there was a one lane road coming off of I-90 for 110,000 people. The whole...
  17. upstater

    Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

    It's all real money. I'm not sure what you're point is. Every department has allocations from the college according to head count. This is how they pay professors. Those bean counters consider each and every student.
  18. upstater

    Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

    With this deal, the shortfall for UConn academics (not counting UConn Health & others campuses) has gone from $95m to $30m. They still have a $30m shortfall.
  19. upstater

    Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

    Have you looked at Smith's endowment lately? They have over a million dollars for every student.
  20. upstater

    Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

    It's the exact opposite of this. They will NOT support the expense, and this is already proven.
  21. upstater

    Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

    That's all well and good until the President of the University declares 15% of all employees across all departments will be let go. At that point, it's actual cutbacks and not fungible money moving around. One thing people don't realize about university budgets is that very little of that money...
  22. upstater

    Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

    He's saying the economic impact is overblown because all the money is local. There's only been a zillion studies reinforcing his main argument.
  23. upstater

    Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

    It's certainly an odd thing to say when they were landing All-Americans even though they weren't very successful under Perno. Corny, Aleksinas, Earl Kelley, they grabbed 3 or 4 of these guys.
  24. upstater

    Question about Big 12, tv contracts and college sports revenue

    Here's how many UConn fans would get sucked into a pro concept: the vast majority of the country will go along with it not even batting an eyelash. Breads & Circuses. With 80% of the country still being heavily invested in "college" sports, the enthusiasm will carry over to the northeast simply...
  25. upstater

    Question about Big 12, tv contracts and college sports revenue

    With $1.1 billion + $200m on the women's side, that's too much money for the P4 to ignore. They will take it eventually. I give it 10 years to account for the payout to former players if that deal gets approved. When the NCAA stops paying former players, that's when the P4 go their own way...
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