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[Bonz_44]

@Bonz_44 Thanks, great info. It's good to see that even as a member of the AAC Connecticut's numbers are higher than some in every P5 conference.


Keep in mind that the data I posted used 2009-2012 figures and 2014 conference membership. That likely skewed the football expense numbers downward as some of conference mates are still working to bring their programs up to P5 levels. I think the football expense numbers are an indication of the cost of FBS football and the fact that cost isn't impacted by revenue.

No problem...
My take away from those numbers is if Clemson can make the playoffs with revenue of only $77 M then why can't anyone else? Obviously the Alabama, Ohio St and Texas's of the world have every advantage but that doesn't always translate to wins....

 

[Fishy]

The budget listed for Cincinnati is wrong - they're in the $65M range.

 

[Marty Jackson]

More up to date info

http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/

CONFERENCE AVERAGE
1. SEC - $109,894,179
2. Big Ten - $101,913,930
3. Big 12 - $98,997,599
4. Pac 12 - $85,603,527
5. ACC - $82,393,045
6. AAC - $47,814,483

CONFERENCE MEDIAN
1. SEC - $114,661,912
2. Big Ten - $98,820,784
3. Big 12 - $86,455,341
4. Pac 12 - $85,455,062
5. ACC - $79,511,483
6. AAC - $45,437,943

BIG 12
1. Texas - $179,555,311
2. Oklahoma - $135,660,070
3. Baylor - $106,078,643
4. Kansas - $103,326,170
5. West Virginia - $87,265,473
6. Oklahoma State - $85,645,208
7. TCU - $80,608,562
8. Kansas State - $76,245,188
9. Texas Tech - $69,858,256
10. Iowa State - $65,733,110

ACC
1. Florida State - $121,319,469
2. Louisville - $104,325,208
3. Duke - $91,688,202
4. Syracuse - $87,175,761
5. Virginia - $87,059,237
6. North Carolina - $85,288,270
7. Virginia Tech - $81,298,133
8. Miami - $77,724,833
9. Clemson - $76,979,261
10. NC State - $76,839,435
11. Pittsburgh - $70,527,488
12. Boston College - $69,300,736
13. Georgia Tech - $65,304,486
14. Wake Forest - $58,672,116

BIG TEN
1. Ohio State - $170,903,135
2. Michigan - $132,336,025
3. Penn State - $127,930,142
4. Wisconsin - $125,790,567
5. Iowa - $107,404,210
6. Minnesota - $105,561,601
7. Nebraska - $103,763,277
8. Michigan State - $93,878,291
9. Indiana - $87,265,729
10. Maryland - $86,863,794
11. Purdue - $75,474,370
12. Illinois - $74,469,976
13. Northwestern - $70,028,074
14. Rutgers - $65,125,833

PAC 12
1. Stanford - $109,670,730
2. Southern Cal - $105,919,366
3. Washington - $103,540,117
4. UCLA - $96,912,767
5. Oregon - $85,823,502
6. California - $85,539,904
7. Arizona - $85,370,219
8. Arizona State - $83,706,393
9. Oregon State - $72,133,762
10. Colorado - $67,852,236
11. Washington State - $66,143,776
12. Utah - $64,629,551

SEC
1. Alabama - $150,620,199
2. LSU - $138,914,636
3. Florida - $130,772,416
4. Auburn - $126,647,970
5. Tennessee - $121,837,383
6. Arkansas - $116,166,428
7. Georgia - $116,151,279
8. South Carolina - $113,172,545
9. Kentucky - $110,450,933
10. Texas A&M - $110,004,867
11. Missouri - $83,943,459
12. Mississippi - $81,024,639
13. Vanderbilt - $70,661,736
14. Mississippi State - $68,150,018

AAC
1. Connecticut - $72,155,789
2. SMU - $55,349,010
3. Central Florida - $51,871,022
4. East Carolina - $48,743,915
5. South Florida - $46,895,838
6. Houston - $45,437,943
7. Cincinnati - $42,861,532
8. Memphis - $41,420,631
9. Tulane - $41,004,900
10. Tulsa - $40,329,852
11. Temple - $39,888,882

I assume these are revenue figures... Do these include the Network deals? If that's the case, uconn at $72M is probably closer to $85M-$90M if you factored in a P5 level contract. That changes the view considerably...

 

[Bonz_44]

I assume these are revenue figures... Do these include the Network deals? If that's the case, uconn at $72M is probably closer to $85M-$90M if you factored in a P5 level contract. That changes the view considerably...

Total revenue....Good point...Uconn already makes more than Rutgers? Can you imagine the jump with a P5 TV money?

 

[specialisthusky]

I assume these are revenue figures... Do these include the Network deals? If that's the case, uconn at $72M is probably closer to $85M-$90M if you factored in a P5 level contract. That changes the view considerably...

You would probably see a reduction in the student subsidies instead. I forget the exact amount which is currently be subsidized - but if I remember correctly it would basically be erased with a P5 television payday.

 

[Dooley]

More up to date info

http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/

CONFERENCE AVERAGE
1. SEC - $109,894,179
2. Big Ten - $101,913,930
3. Big 12 - $98,997,599
4. Pac 12 - $85,603,527
5. ACC - $82,393,045
6. AAC - $47,814,483

CONFERENCE MEDIAN
1. SEC - $114,661,912
2. Big Ten - $98,820,784
3. Big 12 - $86,455,341
4. Pac 12 - $85,455,062
5. ACC - $79,511,483
6. AAC - $45,437,943

BIG 12
1. Texas - $179,555,311
2. Oklahoma - $135,660,070
3. Baylor - $106,078,643
4. Kansas - $103,326,170
5. West Virginia - $87,265,473
6. Oklahoma State - $85,645,208
7. TCU - $80,608,562
8. Kansas State - $76,245,188
9. Texas Tech - $69,858,256
10. Iowa State - $65,733,110

ACC
1. Florida State - $121,319,469
2. Louisville - $104,325,208
3. Duke - $91,688,202
4. Syracuse - $87,175,761
5. Virginia - $87,059,237
6. North Carolina - $85,288,270
7. Virginia Tech - $81,298,133
8. Miami - $77,724,833
9. Clemson - $76,979,261
10. NC State - $76,839,435
11. Pittsburgh - $70,527,488
12. Boston College - $69,300,736
13. Georgia Tech - $65,304,486
14. Wake Forest - $58,672,116

BIG TEN
1. Ohio State - $170,903,135
2. Michigan - $132,336,025
3. Penn State - $127,930,142
4. Wisconsin - $125,790,567
5. Iowa - $107,404,210
6. Minnesota - $105,561,601
7. Nebraska - $103,763,277
8. Michigan State - $93,878,291
9. Indiana - $87,265,729
10. Maryland - $86,863,794
11. Purdue - $75,474,370
12. Illinois - $74,469,976
13. Northwestern - $70,028,074
14. Rutgers - $65,125,833

PAC 12
1. Stanford - $109,670,730
2. Southern Cal - $105,919,366
3. Washington - $103,540,117
4. UCLA - $96,912,767
5. Oregon - $85,823,502
6. California - $85,539,904
7. Arizona - $85,370,219
8. Arizona State - $83,706,393
9. Oregon State - $72,133,762
10. Colorado - $67,852,236
11. Washington State - $66,143,776
12. Utah - $64,629,551

SEC
1. Alabama - $150,620,199
2. LSU - $138,914,636
3. Florida - $130,772,416
4. Auburn - $126,647,970
5. Tennessee - $121,837,383
6. Arkansas - $116,166,428
7. Georgia - $116,151,279
8. South Carolina - $113,172,545
9. Kentucky - $110,450,933
10. Texas A&M - $110,004,867
11. Missouri - $83,943,459
12. Mississippi - $81,024,639
13. Vanderbilt - $70,661,736
14. Mississippi State - $68,150,018

AAC
1. Connecticut - $72,155,789
2. SMU - $55,349,010
3. Central Florida - $51,871,022
4. East Carolina - $48,743,915
5. South Florida - $46,895,838
6. Houston - $45,437,943
7. Cincinnati - $42,861,532
8. Memphis - $41,420,631
9. Tulane - $41,004,900
10. Tulsa - $40,329,852
11. Temple - $39,888,882

Pretty eye opening to see UConn WAY ahead of the pack in the AAC and definitely on-par with several grandfathered P5 schools, despite the significant disparity in TV revenue. This statistic, if it's accurate, needs to be hammered home by our administration to the B12 pronto. By these numbers, and factoring in our markets and historical athletic success, there is no way you can make argument that someone like Houston or Memphis or UCF or USF should be ahead of UConn on the expansion pecking order. Recruiting territories be damned...these power conferences are all about making money and these numbers show that we do. Leaps and bounds better than any of our G5 competitors.

I'd be interested to see BYU's numbers, just for comparison. They're really the only school I consider an equal to UConn's brand and revenue stream.

 

[Dooley]

More up to date info

http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/

CONFERENCE AVERAGE
1. SEC - $109,894,179
2. Big Ten - $101,913,930
3. Big 12 - $98,997,599
4. Pac 12 - $85,603,527
5. ACC - $82,393,045
6. AAC - $47,814,483

CONFERENCE MEDIAN
1. SEC - $114,661,912
2. Big Ten - $98,820,784
3. Big 12 - $86,455,341
4. Pac 12 - $85,455,062
5. ACC - $79,511,483
6. AAC - $45,437,943

BIG 12
1. Texas - $179,555,311
2. Oklahoma - $135,660,070
3. Baylor - $106,078,643
4. Kansas - $103,326,170
5. West Virginia - $87,265,473
6. Oklahoma State - $85,645,208
7. TCU - $80,608,562
8. Kansas State - $76,245,188
9. Texas Tech - $69,858,256
10. Iowa State - $65,733,110

ACC
1. Florida State - $121,319,469
2. Louisville - $104,325,208
3. Duke - $91,688,202
4. Syracuse - $87,175,761
5. Virginia - $87,059,237
6. North Carolina - $85,288,270
7. Virginia Tech - $81,298,133
8. Miami - $77,724,833
9. Clemson - $76,979,261
10. NC State - $76,839,435
11. Pittsburgh - $70,527,488
12. Boston College - $69,300,736
13. Georgia Tech - $65,304,486
14. Wake Forest - $58,672,116

BIG TEN
1. Ohio State - $170,903,135
2. Michigan - $132,336,025
3. Penn State - $127,930,142
4. Wisconsin - $125,790,567
5. Iowa - $107,404,210
6. Minnesota - $105,561,601
7. Nebraska - $103,763,277
8. Michigan State - $93,878,291
9. Indiana - $87,265,729
10. Maryland - $86,863,794
11. Purdue - $75,474,370
12. Illinois - $74,469,976
13. Northwestern - $70,028,074
14. Rutgers - $65,125,833

PAC 12
1. Stanford - $109,670,730
2. Southern Cal - $105,919,366
3. Washington - $103,540,117
4. UCLA - $96,912,767
5. Oregon - $85,823,502
6. California - $85,539,904
7. Arizona - $85,370,219
8. Arizona State - $83,706,393
9. Oregon State - $72,133,762
10. Colorado - $67,852,236
11. Washington State - $66,143,776
12. Utah - $64,629,551

SEC
1. Alabama - $150,620,199
2. LSU - $138,914,636
3. Florida - $130,772,416
4. Auburn - $126,647,970
5. Tennessee - $121,837,383
6. Arkansas - $116,166,428
7. Georgia - $116,151,279
8. South Carolina - $113,172,545
9. Kentucky - $110,450,933
10. Texas A&M - $110,004,867
11. Missouri - $83,943,459
12. Mississippi - $81,024,639
13. Vanderbilt - $70,661,736
14. Mississippi State - $68,150,018

AAC
1. Connecticut - $72,155,789
2. SMU - $55,349,010
3. Central Florida - $51,871,022
4. East Carolina - $48,743,915
5. South Florida - $46,895,838
6. Houston - $45,437,943
7. Cincinnati - $42,861,532
8. Memphis - $41,420,631
9. Tulane - $41,004,900
10. Tulsa - $40,329,852
11. Temple - $39,888,882

What year are these numbers accredited to? 2014?

 

[Ldandy]

No problem...
My take away from those numbers is if Clemson can make the playoffs with revenue of only $77 M then why can't anyone else? Obviously the Alabama, Ohio St and Texas's of the world have every advantage but that doesn't always translate to wins....

Obviously dollars alone don't guarantee success. Texas is the best example of that. However saying if Clemson can make the playoffs why can't anyone else is far too simplistic. Clemson can make the playoff because they recruit a talent rich area, have a great football fan base, and have a strong coaching staff. Purdue makes roughly the same amount as Clemson. Purdue is more likely to drop football before they ever compete in a 4 team playoff. Certain teams are far too disadvantaged by geography and competition for resources to ever compete at the playoff level. It is what it is.

 

[Ha Who]

Interesting. Shows that schools really prioritize football competitiveness over other sports. They will spend to "keep up with the Joneses" in football even if revenue is $21 million less per year. Only when revenue is cut in half (American) is there are 35% reduction in football expenditures.

But, if the gap in total revenue grows further, as it has since 2012, will the ACC still be able to match B1G and SEC football expenditures? Florida State's and Clemson's recent success may be a last gasp for the ACC.

Exactly. Kind of like Georgetown, Villanova and St Johns. The Big East allowed them to be somewhat competitive in hoops, but championships were left to football schools. Just as UConn is struggling to remain relevant, the ACC schools face a similar future. They will remain competitive in the short term but will face a slow death. Look at American business and you see the ACC future. The Big and SEC are Walmart or Apple. The ACC will be like IBM. A former giant struggling to find their way in a new age

 

[Fishy]

Total revenue....Good point...Uconn already makes more than Rutgers? Can you imagine the jump with a P5 TV money?

The revenue includes a significant subsidy from the university. (Being outside of the P5 basically ensures that the larger athletic departments include such a subsidy.)

If UConn was pulling in P5 revenue, there would still be a subsidy, but it would be significantly less - figure the department would be in the $85-90M range.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

After looking at these numbers, it is clear as day UCONN has no business being stuck in the G5. UCONN is already a P5 school revenue wise and that number will only look better if given the access to P5 TV contract. At this point, we just need to get into a P5 even it is the B12. UCONN, Cincy, and BYU should be the only schools B12 should be considering.

 

[Ldandy]

After looking at these numbers, it is clear as day UCONN has no business being stuck in the G5. UCONN is already a P5 school revenue wise and that number will only look better if given the access to P5 TV contract. At this point, we just need to get into a P5 even it is the B12. UCONN, Cincy, and BYU should be the only schools B12 should be considering.

No way to disagree with you here. UCONN has done more than most while having less. That's the epitome of a competitor. While I don't ever see a day where UCONN becomes a football power, what they bring to the table with their blend of markets, academics, basketball and Olympic Sports should be more than enough.

Unfortunately we live in a politicized world where some believe they can enhance their own standing by keeping others down. We have seen this play out in The ACC with schools like UCONN and WVU. I hope one day that UCONN gets a fair shot in a P5 Conference, even if its the Big 12.

 

[CL82]

It's kind of Bizarro world logic, but in some ways it may be easier for UConn to win votes in the Big 12, where putting us on a level playing field doesn't threaten any of the existing conference members.

 

[Dooley]

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 11m11 minutes ago
@BrianEaton3 @FootbalHouston Why? The majority of Big 12 schools want to add easy wins if they expand.

Gotta love him. He now says "easy wins" are part of the criteria for B12 expansion. Geez, if that is truly the case (which I know it isn't), then this will be an all-time WTF criteria changer to kick UConn in the sack. Making a bowl game in 2015 = a bad thing? After handing out the easiest of easy wins for 4+ years, too.

Rule #1.

 

[Stinger92860]

Gotta love him. He now says "easy wins" are part of the criteria for B12 expansion. Geez, if that is truly the case (which I know it isn't), then this will be an all-time WTF criteria changer to kick UConn in the sack. Making a bowl game in 2015 = a bad thing? After handing out the easiest of easy wins for 4+ years, too.

Rule #1.

This makes things much easier. Columbia (NYC) and Harvard (Boston) to the B12!

 

[WestCoastHusky]

It's kind of Bizarro world logic, but in some ways it may be easier for UConn to win votes in the Big 12, where putting us on a level playing field doesn't threaten any of the existing conference members.

Adding UCONN will open up new markets for the B12. B12 will get access to New England and the NYC TV markets. It will give B12 schools exposure out in the east where they don't have much right now.

I really believe traveling is overrated. With fast airplanes today, traveling can be easier with a partner. WVU can be a traveling partner for UCONN for Olympic sports. UCONN can travel with WVU when going out to the Midwest. B12 teams can come out East and play WVU and UCONN in the same trip. It can be done to minimize disruption to student athletes.

UCONN will more than hold its own when it comes to TV value. UCONN also brings two national basketball powers that will instantly enhance the B12 in both sports.

While B12 is not as ideal as the B10, if that's the only option available we need to take it now. Who knows what the future will hold, the only thing I know is we need to get out of the G5 ASAP.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

Gotta love him. He now says "easy wins" are part of the criteria for B12 expansion. Geez, if that is truly the case (which I know it isn't), then this will be an all-time WTF criteria changer to kick UConn in the sack. Making a bowl game in 2015 = a bad thing? After handing out the easiest of easy wins for 4+ years, too.

Rule #1.

It won't be long before we "upset" Texas at the Rent if we are in the B12. It will happen a lot sooner than people think.

 

[noeynox]

It won't be long before we "upset" Texas at the Rent if we are in the B12. It will happen a lot sooner than people think.

Just like: Every. Single. Team. In. The. Big. East.

It supposedly would take us 15-20 years to catch up. In no time we were beating Syracuse and their "tradition' like a drum. The toughest team for us was West Virginia but they too got their come uppance.

 

[billybud]

The averages sure get skewed with teams like Ohio State and Texas making $40 or more million more than most of their fellows in the conference.

If Virginia was in the B1G at present, I wonder how much significantly improved their revenue would be....With $87 million reported in the ACC, would they in the B1G be bringing in more than Illinois, Purdue, Northwestern, Maryland, Rutgers, and Indiana? Who currently make about $87 million or less (most of those listed teams less)...and Michigan State only $6 million more.

 

[Fishy]

The averages sure get skewed with teams like Ohio State and Texas making $40 or more million more than most of their fellows in the conference.

If Virginia was in the B1G at present, I wonder how much significantly improved their revenue would be....With $87 million reported in the ACC, would they in the B1G be bringing in more than Illinois, Purdue, Northwestern, Maryland, Rutgers, and Indiana? Who currently make about $87 million or less (most of those listed teams less)...and Michigan State only $6 million more.

Their revenue would be significantly improved.

They'd make a bundle more on television, sell more tickets, etc., etc.

You are having trouble coming to grips with the math here. The Big Ten is entering a hockey stick period of revenue growth. The ACC is where it is through the next decade or so - the marketplace has spoken.

 

[Ha Who]

Their revenue would be significantly improved.

They'd make a bundle more on television, sell more tickets, etc., etc.

You are having trouble coming to grips with the math here. The Big Ten is entering a hockey stick period of revenue growth. The ACC is where it is through the next decade or so - the marketplace has spoken.

Agreed. The best FSU and Clemson can hope for is to be the Gonzaga of football. Championships are going to slowly fade into the past. The resources will not be there.

 

[dayooper]

The averages sure get skewed with teams like Ohio State and Texas making $40 or more million more than most of their fellows in the conference.

If Virginia was in the B1G at present, I wonder how much significantly improved their revenue would be....With $87 million reported in the ACC, would they in the B1G be bringing in more than Illinois, Purdue, Northwestern, Maryland, Rutgers, and Indiana? Who currently make about $87 million or less (most of those listed teams less)...and Michigan State only $6 million more.

Funny you should bring up UVA. If Virginia was in the Big10, they might not be running on a deficit. In 2013, Virginia brought in $83.6 million while spending $87.4 million. They take much pride in their Olympic sports and are very successful in them. They spend a lot on them while not getting much back in the way of revenue. Yet, that deficit doesn't tell the entire story.

UVA had the second highest subsidies out of the P5 schools with $13.2 million. Who was first? Easy to figure out the ACC team that was bleeding money very publicly, Maryland. (Rutgers was much higher, but still part of of the AAC). You know who paid that $13 million? The students, and that still doesn't cover the $4 million deficit they ran.

Do I think the ACC is breaking up? Absolutely not. They are too tightly knit to break out. The UNC's, FSU's and the UVA's of the conference will always be fine. They have other ways of bringing in money. Who will really be hurting are the BC's, NCST's, VT's, Syracuse's and WF's of the conference. They will be the true casualties of Swofford's folly.

 

[jostar1]

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 6h6 hours ago
Remember
UMD Loh said decision to move school to B1G came after two months of input from school officials, politicians, alumni & donors.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 6h6 hours ago
However....the B12 expansion train...as was the case of Maryland 11/19-20/2012...has been rolling for 2 months prior.

AJ Tech ‏@tech_aj · 5h5 hours ago
@flugempire not if you are an AAC looking to improve your standing.

Greg Flugaur
‏@flugempire It takes at least a couple of months of external and internal negotiations...talk...input...organizational work on both sides of the coin.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 6h6 hours ago
According to BTM..B1G perception is B12 talks with UH-MEM-CINCY have led those schools officials, politicians, alumni & donors to gather...

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire There has been no vote-selections.
But those universities who have not been gathering their Officials-Donors-Politicians...were told not to

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 6h6 hours ago
Is their a 4th school in the mix? Maybe...maybe B10 perception is wrong on the number being only 3 candidates.
Maybe.

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire Will talk again JAN 16th.
I've been asked many questions lately...have not been able to respond.
We will talk again.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

Not a tweet but found an article from Frank that talked about what the best options are for the Big 12.

http://frankthetank.me/tag/uconn-to-the-big-12/

Excerpt:

This certainly isn’t a proverbial slam dunk. Like I’ve said, the threshold question is whether the Big 12 wants to expand at all (as they are awaiting feedback on their proposal to the NCAA to allow for leagues with less than 12 schools to hold a conference championship game). At the same time, Memphis isn’t suddenly a no-brainer addition – there are plenty of open issues, particularly whether its academic reputation would satisfy Texas and if its football success this past year is sustainable. Looking at conference realignment in a vacuum, the two most valuable Group of 5 schools are arguably BYU and UConn, so who knows how the Big 12 views either of those schools. I’ll re-state my firm belief that BYU would be a fantastic fit for the Big 12 both on-the-field and financially, but acknowledge that it’s the most unpredictable school that I’ve seen over the past few years of conference realignment both in terms of its own actions and how the rest of the Big 12 perceives the school. If the Big 12 expands and BYU is somehow passed over, then it would be a clear inverse of the Michael Corleone credo: “It’s not business, it’s just personal”. UConn is in a tough spot because it’s not a very good fit at all for the Big 12 culturally or geographically, yet it still needs to push hard for a place in that league since it doesn’t have any other power conference options forthcoming in the near future. It’s all an interesting set of circumstances right now. The last couple of spots in the Big 12 might be the final power conference additions that the college sports world will see in this generation, so the stakes are massive for those schools that have a viable chance.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
Several people have asked me about UC & the ACC. I've asked a few people who would know & they say it's completely bogus.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
They point out that all UC would do would be to reduce revenues since ESPN will not add money for a G5 school.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
No offense to UC but if UC had the metrics that justified addition they wouldn't be in the AAC.

Andy Cain ‏@cainforpresiden 6h6 hours ago
@theDudeofWV and that's why they spent the 200 million in 2 new stadiums and started paying coaches higher salaries. Took too long

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV 6h6 hours ago
@cainforpresiden Some schools just don't fit with some conferences.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 6h6 hours ago
But UC is still one of the schools the Big 12 will add if they have to expand to 12/2 divisions to have a CCG.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 6h6 hours ago
Obviously the Big 12 will wait until they know if their legislation passes or is modified.

Mountaineer Steve ‏@Mountaineer_Ste 6h6 hours ago Irmo, SC
@theDudeofWV If the BIG10 rule is adopted, I think BIG12 expands. You?

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV 6h6 hours ago
@Mountaineer_Ste They have too. Playoff committee has told them publicly & privately that 13th data point is very important.

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV 6h6 hours ago
@Mountaineer_Ste But I think Pete Thamel had an error about the SEC supporting the B1G legislation. I think the B12, ACC & SEC are opposed.

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV 6h6 hours ago
@Mountaineer_Ste Sankey said this: the SEC would be willing to allow the B12 to stage a CCG with 10 teams & no div.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 3h3 hours ago
@DavidTeelatDP So I have dozens of Cincy fans emailing me that UC has been invited to join the ACC. Can you please set them straight?

GREG SW AIM SHOW ‏@GSw aim Dec 29
#B1G coming after #ACC as well as #Big12, to force them to have two divisions, and play by the same rules. #BYU and #UCBearcats stand by!!

GREG SW AIM SHOW ‏@GSw aim Dec 29
Was born in Cincinnati, and have a ton of LDS friends (and on Twitter), so looking forward to doing shows in both places. #UCBearcats #BYU

 

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Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 22h22 hours ago
Is their a 4th school in the mix? Maybe...maybe B10 perception is wrong on the number being only 3 candidates.

Maybe.