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I used to think that they'd join the ACC as a full member but these days they actually seem okay with being merely above average.I think Notre Dame will be forced to join a conference eventually, or the whole conference structure may implode as the TV rights game changes. Right now, there is significant value in being in a conference, apart from money. There is the pursuit of a conference championship, and consistency in opponents. ND has some of that with its schedule, but it isn't the same. I'm not sure that ND is the biggest game on most team's schedules anymore.
ND has gone 60-31 under Brian Kelly (including 12 and 10 win seasons) in seven seasons plus this year's opener.
That record includes last year's 4-8 disaster (which sucked and I hope was an anomaly). It is not that great but maybe not quite the complete decline some people make it out to be.
I think that any ND struggles are related to coaching hires versus conference affiliation.
You are mostly correct Terry. I think they'll be pretty good this year, and most the bad years are due to coaching hires. I don't think Independence is anything like fatal for Notre Dame, not at all. I merely think that if you asked HS kids which programs are "cool", ND doesn't crack the top ten anymore. I think part of that is lack of conference affiliation. Honestly, if ND didn't already have strong rivalry games with schools like USC, Stanford and MSU, the program would be in more trouble. Kids want to play in big rivalry games, which mostly come in conference play. If they can keep those, they can stay as is.
Really interesting seeing Georgia on the schedule this year.
As long as they lose every game I'm happy.
That is part of ND's dual strategy of playing schools from every P5 conference and in every region of the country.
ND previously had home/home series with Texas and Oklahoma. It just signed a home/home deal with Arkansas, for instance.
That is one of the benefits of being a football independent, the scheduling flexibility to do that and play games all over.
D@mn, now I have to go out and buy a new sarcasm detector.I think they are just terrific
I agree and think their sweet NBC deal makes them not even care to join a conference. They're getting way more then any G5 school in terms of media money so why bother joining a conference. If NBC were to ever not renew their tv deal, I think we'd see ND join a conference real quick.I used to think that they'd join the ACC as a full member but these days they actually seem okay with being merely above average.
I agree and think their sweet NBC deal makes them not even care to join a conference. They're getting way more then any G5 school in terms of media money so why bother joining a conference. If NBC were to ever not renew their tv deal, I think we'd see ND join a conference real quick.
Tonight was a perfect example of what happened to Notre Dame football...Georgia took over their stadium. The building was split down the middle which means a lot Georgia fans who prefer Georgia football to money bought their tickets from a lot Notre Dame fans who prefer money to Notre Dame football. The more passionate fan base is very apparent.
They're still a very good program, but they're not exceptional. Other programs are getting as much or more exposure and the subway fans that really built Notre Dame's rep are more a memory than a reality.
It was Georgia's first trip north of the Mason Dixon line since 1965 and a "bucket list" item for Bulldog fans. They will willing to pay through the nose for tickets.
Tonight was a perfect example of what happened to Notre Dame football...Georgia took over their stadium. The building was split down the middle which means a lot Georgia fans who prefer Georgia football to money bought their tickets from a lot Notre Dame fans who prefer money to Notre Dame football. The more passionate fan base is very apparent.
They're still a very good program, but they're not exceptional. Other programs are getting as much or more exposure and the subway fans that really built Notre Dame's rep are more a memory than a reality.
Where did I say that it was related to realignment?
Probably the part where you started your statement with, "Tonight was a perfect example of what happened to Notre Dame football" in a thread about Notre Dame football being negatively affected by realignment...
You forgot FSU. They are not an etc.This board, if taken in context, is understandable...
We, if we are honest with ourselves, know that some threads/posts are just expressions of those hackneyed stages of grief thing...
Starting with Anger...
Anger...the BY will hate on Notre Dame, Swoffford, ACC, Boston College, Louisville, Tranghese, ESPN etc. All and any who are deemed responsible for the dissolution of the OBE. I have finally come to understand that there will be outbursts of anger that are really an expression of emotion and no rational discussion adds to the intent (including this rational post).
So by "rational" do you mean, trollish, condescending, or just dickish?(including this rational post).