Right, and the basis of this conversation is that a team would rather have Cam Spencer than the #1 or #2 freshmen in the country because Cam is more experienced. And I just can’t agree with that at all.
In terms of winning in college I would.
But he didn’t win though.. the other guys did as the leaders on their teams.
If you could guarantee me I'd get the top 1 or 2 freshman, I'd take that over Spencer. But the top freshman is usually someone in the 5* range and isn't always the guys ranked #1 coming in, and the dropoff from the top freshman to the 10th freshman is usually pretty massive. It's easier to predict the impact and role of a guy with several years in college.
Those guys played in easier leagues than Spencer. Spencer would've been all conference in the AAC.
This was the original comment. Talking about the #1 and #2 players in the country.
You are completely missing the point of this entire discussion, over and over again
I’m confused then. Especially as the person who kind of started it. What’s the point?
Yup, exactly. Entirely missing the point
Then how would he be able to have a bigger impact…. That makes absolutely no sense.
Yeah I'm done, because once again you are completely missing the point. If I thought you had any chance of comprehending what I said I might try to explain it again. But as is usual, you just move the goalposts and spin narratives that nobody is saying. I'm beginning to remember why you spent all season on my ignore listThen how would he be able to have a bigger impact…. That makes absolutely no sense.
Doing a lot of mental gymnastics to try and say why you would take a 4th year transfer over the #1 or #2 player. Even as role players, our freshmen were the best ones on the team over transfers (one who was all-conference). I don’t understand what angle y’all are trying to take here.
He wouldn’t be a better #1 option, wouldn’t be good enough for NBA, wouldn’t be in consideration for awards, didn’t win on his own team (that actually had an All Big Ten player and another guy who was 2x conference DPOY), but he would make a bigger impact than the guys who do all those things??
LMAO you basically said every tangible thing that talks about player impact doesn’t matter when saying who would be more impactful. But I’m moving goalposts.
I posted their literal on the court impact numbers, yet they don't support your insane argument so you ignore them. Go back to arguing Clingan is the next Jokic. ClownLMAO you basically said every tangible thing that talks about player impact doesn’t matter when saying who would be more impactful. But I’m moving goalposts.
That's been my point, we're not arguing who's a better player. The discussion is who will have a bigger impact
But is he better than Jr yr cam Spencer?
How does someone’s nba draft stock make a better college player? Sanogo is a great example, were the 58 draft picks all better than him? Nba draft is about nba potential not college production. College production is more of a sure thing with a 5th year player. Awards? Pretty meaningless because who had more impact as a freshman whitmore or karaban? I think even you would say karaban no?
Karaban was all freshman team and Sanogo was All conference. They had awards. They were also winners.
I'm taking Spencer for 1 year as a 5th year guy over 1 year of Nick Smith or Dariq Whitehead.
This one right here