ACC replacement list: UConn, USF, Memphis, Tulane, Washington State, Oregon State

[CL82]

Didn’t that podcast guy say the GOR would disappear as a result of the FSU and Clemson suits? That’s what I was referring to when I said this summer.

If you're talking about Flugar, I think he said that since the ACC contracted with ESPN transferring the GOR that it received from FSU to ESPN, then, FSU could move to the SEC since it has granted its rights to ESPN already. I'm not sure that would apply with the California schools. They may be stuck.

The only way that they would get out would be if enough ACC schools were leaving that they could vote for dissolution first. I think. Who knows what the current legal status is of this stuff. It's a mess and a moving target.

 

[jostar1]

If you're talking about Flugar, I think he said that since the ACC contracted with ESPN transferring the GOR that it received from FSU to ESPN, then, FSU could move to the SEC since it has granted its rights to ESPN already. I'm not sure that would apply with the California schools. They may be stuck.

The only way that they would get out would be if enough ACC schools were leaving that they could vote for dissolution first. I think. Who knows what the current legal status is of this stuff. It's a mess and a moving target.

I think he's talking about this guy.

This guy said that ESPN is not going to extend the media deal. The GOR ends when the media deal isn't extended.

He says that the ACC has been given an ultimatum. They have been told to settle with FSU and Clemson prior to June 30, 2024 or FSU and Clemson will leave and the Composition Clause will be triggered. ESPN has told the ACC that the media deal will end on or before August 16, 2024. The GOR ends then.

 

[NH Husky]

I think he's talking about this guy.

This guy said that ESPN is not going to extend the media deal. The GOR ends when the media deal isn't extended.

He says that the ACC has been given an ultimatum. They have been told to settle with FSU and Clemson prior to June 30, 2024 or FSU and Clemson will leave and the Composition Clause will be triggered. ESPN has told the ACC that the media deal will end on or before August 16, 2024. The GOR ends then.

That’s the one

 

[KryHavok]

Maybe it's just me, but watching the vids, every time he said "grant of rights" I heard it as "grain of rice"...which would be great if the backstabbing traitors that ran from the Big East to the ACC are only left with some rice rather than wads of dough if/when the media deal implodes. Another good opportunity to quote Guitierrez:

 

[CL82]

The notion that a breach of any clause in the GOR nullifies the entire agreement seems unlikely to me. This felt like propaganda to me. Don't get me working the ACC blowing up is both good for us and pleasing karma-wise, but this guy did not seem like he was giving am evenhanded assessment of the case.

 

[JMick]

The notion that a breach of any clause in the GOR nullifies the entire agreement seems unlikely to me. This felt like propaganda to me. Don't get me working the ACC blowing up is both good for us and pleasing karma-wise, but this guy did not seem like he was giving am evenhanded assessment of the case.

The only thing better than the ACC blowing up is FSU just getting impatient or losing, paying a billion dollars on their way out, anyway, and then stabilizing the conference further as we slide into their position. If GORs don't mean anything then joining the ACC is not a great proposition because it can collapse at any time.

 

[UConnJim]

The notion that a breach of any clause in the GOR nullifies the entire agreement seems unlikely to me. This felt like propaganda to me. Don't get me working the ACC blowing up is both good for us and pleasing karma-wise, but this guy did not seem like he was giving am evenhanded assessment of the case.

I think the biggest issue for the ACC is the upcoming NBA media contract and the extension of the ACC media contract. The NBA media contract is going to be very costly and could ESPN save money by not extending the ACC contract and facilitating the move of some ACC schools to the SEC (ESPN owns media rights) and the Big 12 (ESPN owns half) to retain most of the valuable content.

 

[Stinger92860]

One thing for sure, this summer is going to be fun and interesting to watch.
I would love if we ended up in the Big 12 with some formal tie in with the Big East. Returning to the Big East is what rejuvenated our brand, and I would much rather than the turn coats who ran off to the ACC. Could care less what happens to them. They had a lot more money and favorable circumstances (rivals brought with them) to get it done and couldn’t. Our AD management is many levels above there’s.
Our worse case is another kick in the jewelry - been through many and are still standing tall. Best case we are in a conference where, if we invest wisely, we can increase our P2 appeal.

Danny Hurley rejuvenated the brand, along with Geno.

 

[NH Husky]

Danny Hurley rejuvenated the brand, along with Geno.

Gene “juvenated” the women’s program 30 years ago and has maintained it there since. I highly doubt we would’ve been able to hire Hurley if we were still in the AAC.

 

[NowInStorrs]

Gene “juvenated” the women’s program 30 years ago and has maintained it there since. I highly doubt we would’ve been able to hire Hurley if we were still in the AAC.

What? We were in the AAC when we hired Hurley.

 

[ScottVib]

Gene “juvenated” the women’s program 30 years ago and has maintained it there since. I highly doubt we would’ve been able to hire Hurley if we were still in the AAC.

He was hired and even coached two seasons in the AAC... he was hired March 2018 and UConn announced the move to the Big East in June 2019

 

[NH Husky]

He was hired and even coached two seasons in the AAC... he was hired March 2018 and UConn announced the move to the Big East in June 2019

You don’t think he was given a heads up on the move?

 

[noeynox]

You don’t think he was given a heads up on the move?

No

 

[NH Husky]

No

So it’s leaked to a message board and that’s the first the basketball coach hears of it. Okay.

 

[jostar1]

So it’s leaked to a message board and that’s the first the basketball coach hears of it. Okay. View attachment 99652

Hurley said it was not guaranteed to him by Benedict and Herbst.

"When Hurley was hired a year ago at UConn from Rhode Island, he said there were no promises made to him by President Susan Herbst and the administration that UConn would ultimately re-join the Big East. Yet the rumors have been flying ever since the school left with the other football schools in 2013.

"I wanted to be the coach at UConn regardless," he said. "That had been a dream of mine my whole coaching career, is to be the head coach here. I had hoped it would happen. When I first met with [AD] Dave Benedict and President Herbst, they made it clear to me that it might not, and take this job with the understanding that you could very well be in the American and don't take it based on rumors that we could be relocating."

UConn's Dan Hurley Says Joining Big East Enhances Recruiting, Chance To Contend for NCAA Titles

The UConn men's basketball team has won four NCAA titles since 1999. With the school's return to the Big East in 2020, Dan Hurley believes it will "definitely enhance' recruiting and the program's ability to contend for more NCAA titles.

www.forbes.com

 

[NH Husky]

Hurley said it was not guaranteed to him by Benedict and Herbst.

"When Hurley was hired a year ago at UConn from Rhode Island, he said there were no promises made to him by President Susan Herbst and the administration that UConn would ultimately re-join the Big East. Yet the rumors have been flying ever since the school left with the other football schools in 2013.

"I wanted to be the coach at UConn regardless," he said. "That had been a dream of mine my whole coaching career, is to be the head coach here. I had hoped it would happen. When I first met with [AD] Dave Benedict and President Herbst, they made it clear to me that it might not, and take this job with the understanding that you could very well be in the American and don't take it based on rumors that we could be relocating."

UConn's Dan Hurley Says Joining Big East Enhances Recruiting, Chance To Contend for NCAA Titles

The UConn men's basketball team has won four NCAA titles since 1999. With the school's return to the Big East in 2020, Dan Hurley believes it will "definitely enhance' recruiting and the program's ability to contend for more NCAA titles.

www.forbes.com

Okay. So my original statement was returning to the Big East rejuvenated our brand and Coach Hurley said it enhances our chances to contend for ncaa titles.

 

[jostar1]

Okay. So my original statement was returning to the Big East rejuvenated our brand and Coach Hurley said it enhances our chances to contend for ncaa titles.

Hurley: UConn Would Be Powerhouse Even Without a Return to the Big East​

But when Front Office Sports asked whether his program would have reached this level of dominance if it hadn’t rejoined the Big East, he leaned forward into the microphone and said, “Absolutely.”

“We would be where we were regardless.”

Hurley acknowledged that the move “certainly helped,” and he’s made plenty of comments suggesting he’s much happier with UConn in its current conference than its former one. The Big East’s intense competition really kept the team sharp—Hurley likened the Huskies’ journey to that of Kelvin Sampson and Houston, who moved from the AAC to the Big 12 just this year and led the Cougars to a conference title and Sweet 16 berth.

But the 2024 Naismith National Coach of the Year said that by the time ’20 rolled around, the program was already recruiting “at a very, very high level.” He also said they had the “best staff in the country” at the time.

https://frontofficesports.com/hurley-uconn-would-be-powerhouse-even-withoueturn-to-the-big-east/

 

[The Yakk]

I kind of feel that way (re: BC), but honestly, at this point I'd love to just absorb all the remnants of the ACC and improve the BE. Maybe we hold BC in the wind for a month or two and publicly embarrass them before letting them in

BC can join the Patriot League, if that league will have them.

They bring nothing, and I never want to play them again in any sport.

 

[CL82]

BC can join the Patriot League, if that league will have them.

They bring nothing, and I never want to play them again in any sport.

I'm okay with hockey since they are in Hockey East with us.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Okay. So my original statement was returning to the Big East rejuvenated our brand and Coach Hurley said it enhances our chances to contend for ncaa titles.

There is NO way Hurley comes here unless he was confident UConn was joining the Big East. Maybe nothing was guaranteed, but the move was in the works.

 

[freescooter]

There is NO way Hurley comes here unless he was confident UConn was joining the Big East. Maybe nothing was guaranteed, but the move was in the works.

LOL! Don’t be silly. You NEWBIE fanboys are a riot. Because the coach at Rhode Island would never leave for a job with a 4 time NCAA champion. Houston also got to the Final Four in 2021 and the Elite 8 in 2022 out of the AAC. And FWIW, he wasn’t getting the Pitt job, so don’t go there. But you don’t turn down a major job because of the league unless you are in the NBA. Nobody would have turned it down and Dan Hurley wouldn’t have. It is a what have you done for me lately business. All it takes is one down year at Rhody and a big year by someone else and You could well be an A-10 coach forever.

 

[Forte]

There is NO way Hurley comes here unless he was confident UConn was joining the Big East. Maybe nothing was guaranteed, but the move was in the works.

Hurley and Mora were sold the same vision (different conferences) Hurley's worked out to perfection. Mora's hit a brick wall

 

[AllHusky]

Hang in there for poor old Mora(and the rest of us!!)

 

[Patman]

Hurley and Mora were sold the same vision (different conferences) Hurley's worked out to perfection. Mora's hit a brick wall

A little bit. I don't know what was in play at the time but Hurley was a big boy and knows the odds on a situation. Same with mora. The b12 thing wasn't a hope on anybodys radar when mora got here so I'd say mora had less promise