Zion Harmon: We should look into him as a PG transfer

[boiwerebad]

He’s a walking chizzled kid. He can shoot it from beyond NBA range with ease. He has a strong core. He has a strong base. I don’t think some of y’all understand how athletes are suppose to be built. He not 6 feet either. He probably 5 foot 10 175 pounds.

Got it, so everyone is conspiring against him, but a message board poster knows his actual size. Also if he is 5'10, that is not a selling point.

 

[Fishy]

Don’t care about his size.

He is a walking turnover.

The fire does not need more gasoline, thank you.

 

[navery12]

Go look at him on YouTube embarrassing all them kids at them too 100 camps

I've watched plenty of him. I repeat, hard pass

 

[UCTitleTown]

Not to minimize mental health struggles, but if true, would UConn be the best place for someone who had a breakdown (to re-state another's comment. I don't know his situation)? Sounds like a possible Zack Greinke (Royals pitcher). Someone who is best being somewhere out of the spotlight. This state and fanbase has high expectations and puts a ton of extra pressure on players and coaches. If they embrace it and thrive, they become UConn legends who are loved forever and never have to buy their own drinks or meals in CT again. If not, they can be chewed up quickly.

 

[husky429]

I've watched plenty of him. I repeat, hard pass

I also watched the tape. He's a high-major player, but he's a bench piece for a top-25 team like us.

I respect the support for a young player @Brandon86 but nah. Idk if you have some connection to the kid, but he's not it. Nice player, wi he great on some team... just not on our level if he expects PT.

 

[Brandon86]

My concern is his handle. In your OP, you specifically mentioned him as a PG. I don't care if he shoots 70% if he's a walking TO machine. And that's not even bringing his defensive capability into play. Is he Boatright level tenacious on that end? I don't see a lot of 5'10" guys fitting into Hurley's defensive philosophy.

Go look at him. His handle is CRAZY. I will say I can’t say he is a great defender. He is for sure a walking bucket, that flat out doesn’t get ripped. I’m talking floaters, running bank shots with both hands and all. The kid has a BAG. I get he had a lot of turnovers. Everybody ain’t gonna be up to his speed down there though. If you on the court with players more up to your speed, he cleaning that up. It’s crazy because he wasn’t even doing that playing against too kids in the country all the time.

 

[Brandon86]

Not to minimize mental health struggles, but if true, would UConn be the best place for someone who had a breakdown (to re-state another's comment. I don't know his situation)? Sounds like a possible Zack Greinke (Royals pitcher). Someone who is best being somewhere out of the spotlight. This state and fanbase has high expectations and puts a ton of extra pressure on players and coaches. If they embrace it and thrive, they become UConn legends who are loved forever and never have to buy their own drinks or meals in CT again. If not, they can be chewed up quickly.

I agree with you, but everyone deserves a a redemption. This kid led a team to state and won as and 8th grader. He has had high expectations since he was literally a kid. He has lite been in the spotlight his whole life. Every big camp you can think of he was there killing kids.

 

[Brandon86]

I also watched the tape. He's a high-major player, but he's a bench piece for a top-25 team like us.

I respect the support for a young player @Brandon86 but nah. Idk if you have some connection to the kid, but he's not it. Nice player, wi he great on some team... just not on our level if he expects PT.

I feel you. I watched a kid go start at UK that I flat out watched him demolish. What guard we got that can shoot it from NBA range with ease? Since when does kids that Kansas offer not good enough for us lol? I have no connection to him. I just know ball and I’ve seen a lot of kids. He just has a very great skill set. Reed Sheppard is going to UK next year. That kid is good, I’m from KY. I’m telling you he couldn’t guard Zion to save his life right now.

 

[navery12]

I feel you. I watched a kid go start at UK that I flat out watched him demolish. What guard we got that can shoot it from NBA range with ease? Since when does kids that Kansas offer not good enough for us lol?

Because things change after high school. Rahsool Diggins and Javonte Brown Ferguson had offers from Kansas out of high school and were not good enough for UConn. He was just a high volume, inefficient scoring guard this year.

If he wanted to come off the bench here and was willing to reign it in for a 10-15 minutes a game role that's a different story, but I don't see that happening

 

[Brandon86]

Because things change after high school. Rahsool Diggins and Javonte Brown Ferguson had offers from Kansas out of high school and were not good enough for UConn. He was just a high volume, inefficient scoring guard this year.

If he wanted to come off the bench here and was willing to reign it in for a 10-15 minutes a game role that's a different story, but I don't see that happening

Did they help lead a Fiba team to a gold medal? We just lost the Pettiford kid to Auburn. Harmon had and offer from them too. Since when is kids that turn down schools we loos e recruits to not good enough? I never seen Rahsool digginns dominating kids in the country at camps either. The only thing the kid had against him was he was 5 foot 10. Diggins never handled the ball or could shoot flat out off the dribble like this kid either.

 

[husky429]

I feel you. I watched a kid go start at UK that I flat out watched him demolish. What guard we got that can shoot it from NBA range with ease? Since when does kids that Kansas offer not good enough for us lol? I have no connection to him. I just know ball and I’ve seen a lot of kids. He just has a very great skill set. Reed Sheppard is going to UK next year. That kid is good, I’m from KY. I’m telling you he couldn’t guard Zion to save his life right now.

He didn't shoot it with ease. He shot 34% from deep in a soft schedule for one of the worst teams in the country. They're ranked 343 on kenpom.

For comparison's sake, RJ Cole played for a similarly ranked team and averaged 24ppg as a freshman, compared to Zion's 14. RJ averaged 6 assists, Zion averaged 3. RJ also averaged double the rebounds. His production doesn't scream "top-25 point guard" at all.

Then you watch the tape. Yeah he's a quick player, but the reality is it wasn't like he was the only scoring option on his team. Shoot, he wasn't even the best player on the team. That award goes to Garrett. Zion wasn't pulling double-teams constantly like RJ did at Howard. Bethune had 4 double-digit scorers. And he still averaged 3 TOs in 28 minutes against a putrid schedule.

He also isn't a very good defender. 1 steal and 0 blocks per game is nothing to write home about. RJ averaged 2 steals in a comparable schedule. His advanced stats look worse, and in the 2 games I skimmed through, he was targeted and bullied at the rim.

People would probably be willing to listen to you more if you didn't make ridiculous claims like he's "built like a truck." He's 165lbs bro. He's tiny. He'd be our smallest player we've recruited since 2012. And I can assure you be is no Ryan Boatright. Doesn't mean he can't be a good player, but straight up lying isn't helping your cause.

Now you're saying people don't like him because he had a "mental breakdown." Yeah, dude, why recruit a player who is probe to mental breakdowns? Tiny guards who can shoot 33% are a dime a dozen and plenty of them don't have mental health issues to deal with.

I'm sorry for crapping all over a kid you seem to like, but if you call me out I'm going to respond. No one cares what he did in high school. D1 is big boy basketball, and high school can't compare. No one cares what offers he used to have. Talk about his recent play or shut up.

He's going to play high-major for some team that needs a bucket and doesn't have top-10 aspirations. We are not that team.

If nothing else, our defense requires big guards. He needs to be switchable on defense... and isn't.

 

[Brandon86]

He didn't shoot it with ease. He shot 34% from deep in a soft schedule for one of the worst teams in the country. They're ranked 343 on kenpom.

For comparison's sake, RJ Cole played for a similarly ranked team and averaged 24ppg as a freshman, compared to Zion's 14. RJ averaged 6 assists, Zion averaged 3. RJ also averaged double the rebounds. His production doesn't scream "top-25 point guard" at all.

Then you watch the tape. Yeah he's a quick player, but the reality is it wasn't like he was the only scoring option on his team. Shoot, he wasn't even the best player on the team. That award goes to Garrett. Zion wasn't pulling double-teams constantly like RJ did at Howard. Bethune had 4 double-digit scorers. And he still averaged 3 TOs in 28 minutes against a putrid schedule.

He also isn't a very good defender. 1 steal and 0 blocks per game is nothing to write home about. RJ averaged 2 steals in a comparable schedule. His advanced stats look worse, and in the 2 games I skimmed through, he was targeted and bullied at the rim.

People would probably be willing to listen to you more if you didn't make ridiculous claims like he's "built like a truck." He's 165lbs bro. He's tiny. He'd be our smallest player we've recruited since 2012. And I can assure you be is no Ryan Boatright. Doesn't mean he can't be a good player, but straight up lying isn't helping your cause.

Now you're saying people don't like him because he had a "mental breakdown." Yeah, dude, why recruit a player who is probe to mental breakdowns? Tiny guards who can shoot 33% are a dime a dozen and plenty of them don't have mental health issues to deal with.

I'm sorry for crapping all over a kid you seem to like, but if you call me out I'm going to respond. No one cares what he did in high school. D1 is big boy basketball, and high school can't compare. No one cares what offers he used to have. Talk about his recent play or shut up.

He's going to play high-major for some team that needs a bucket and doesn't have top-10 aspirations. We are not that team.

If nothing else, our defense requires big guards. He needs to be switchable on defense... and isn't.

AJ Cole wasn’t nowhere near recruited as highly. I don’t gotta lie. Just simply go look him up. It’s good kids that went to other MAJOR schools he flat out was killing. He was a MAJOR recruit. He wasn’t going to no HOWARD.

 

[Brandon86]

AJ Cole wasn’t nowhere near recruited as highly. I don’t gotta lie. Just simply go look him up. It’s good kids that went to other MAJOR schools he flat out was killing. He was a MAJOR recruit. He wasn’t going to no HOWARD. Y’all just off of stats. Go actually look. Bethune Cookman is a HBCU, and not a good one. Go WATCH. You will see he shoots the ball way beyond NBA range off the dribble constantly. He always has. If you play with better players, you can perform better too. He was recruited by other big East schools too. He had a Seton Hall offer.

 

[Brandon86]

He didn't shoot it with ease. He shot 34% from deep in a soft schedule for one of the worst teams in the country. They're ranked 343 on kenpom.

For comparison's sake, RJ Cole played for a similarly ranked team and averaged 24ppg as a freshman, compared to Zion's 14. RJ averaged 6 assists, Zion averaged 3. RJ also averaged double the rebounds. His production doesn't scream "top-25 point guard" at all.

Then you watch the tape. Yeah he's a quick player, but the reality is it wasn't like he was the only scoring option on his team. Shoot, he wasn't even the best player on the team. That award goes to Garrett. Zion wasn't pulling double-teams constantly like RJ did at Howard. Bethune had 4 double-digit scorers. And he still averaged 3 TOs in 28 minutes against a putrid schedule.

He also isn't a very good defender. 1 steal and 0 blocks per game is nothing to write home about. RJ averaged 2 steals in a comparable schedule. His advanced stats look worse, and in the 2 games I skimmed through, he was targeted and bullied at the rim.

People would probably be willing to listen to you more if you didn't make ridiculous claims like he's "built like a truck." He's 165lbs bro. He's tiny. He'd be our smallest player we've recruited since 2012. And I can assure you be is no Ryan Boatright. Doesn't mean he can't be a good player, but straight up lying isn't helping your cause.

Now you're saying people don't like him because he had a "mental breakdown." Yeah, dude, why recruit a player who is probe to mental breakdowns? Tiny guards who can shoot 33% are a dime a dozen and plenty of them don't have mental health issues to deal with.

I'm sorry for crapping all over a kid you seem to like, but if you call me out I'm going to respond. No one cares what he did in high school. D1 is big boy basketball, and high school can't compare. No one cares what offers he used to have. Talk about his recent play or shut up.

He's going to play high-major for some team that needs a bucket and doesn't have top-10 aspirations. We are not that team.

If nothing else, our defense requires big guards. He needs to be switchable on defense... and isn't.

People don’t gotta listen. When I say built like a truck I mean he is in the best shape he can be for his frame. He small, but his legs are solid, and his calves looks like balls. He been strength training with some of the best trainers since he was a kid. He trained with NBA players. Auburn, Kansas, LSU, Seton Hall, Louisville and I can keep going. He wasn’t going to no Howard my guy. He went to Western cause it was his home town team, and the coach there is known for being a bag man. You right it’s is D1 big boy basketball. He had BIG BOY offers. That’s my entire point. Another thing is if you the best player you gonna get WAY more attention. You not gonna get them clean looks. Y’all bringing up the Kenyon. I watched this kid give Lamelo Ball 25 while laughing doing it.

 

[husky429]

AJ Cole wasn’t nowhere near recruited as highly. I don’t gotta lie. Just simply go look him up. It’s good kids that went to other MAJOR schools he flat out was killing. He was a MAJOR recruit. He wasn’t going to no HOWARD.

No ine cares about recruiting once you've played D1 ball dude. Recruiting ranking is irrelevant once you've stepped on a college court.

Also your writing is atrocious. I can barely understand what you're saying.

 

[Brandon86]

No ine cares about recruiting once you've played D1 ball dude. Recruiting ranking is irrelevant once you've stepped on a college court.

Also your writing is atrocious. I can barely understand what you're

It’s “One” not in. Don’t come on here talking and you not spelling correctly. My writing can be a whatever. I went to college and I was on on deans list. Y’all just get on the internet and be whoever y’all wanna be. Be people who ain’t ever even probably picked up a basketball before.

 

[husky429]

It’s “One” not in. My writing can be a whatever. I went to college and I was on on deans list. Y’all just get on the internet and be whoever y’all wanna be. Be people who ain’t ever even probably picked up a basketball before.

"My writing can be a whatever" --> this is an example of a sentence that makes no sense.

It's "dean's"

and it's "by" not "be"

"Ain't ever even probably picked up a basketball" is another sentence that makes you sound borderline illiterate.

Good effort correcting my typo. I have a master's degree in English, nimrod. I think your dean may have had low standards.

I also played college basketball and coached a bunch of D3/D2 players, and a few D1 players. I know a little bit about sports, but I do wish it was more. I can't say I'm a very good basketball player, but I'm not dumb enough to call a 165lb player "built like a truck."

If you can manage to hop off Zion's member and stop talking about what he did in high school 2 years ago, I'd love to continue this debate. If you want to try to correct my writing, this isn't going to end well for you.

 

[John]

Go look at him. His handle is CRAZY. I will say I can’t say he is a great defender. He is for sure a walking bucket, that flat out doesn’t get ripped. I’m talking floaters, running bank shots with both hands and all. The kid has a BAG. I get he had a lot of turnovers. Everybody ain’t gonna be up to his speed down there though. If you on the court with players more up to your speed, he cleaning that up. It’s crazy because he wasn’t even doing that playing against too kids in the country all the time.

Your last name Maguire, brother of Jerry?

 

[husky429]

Fixed the grammar for you in bold.

People don't have to listen.

When I say built like a truck I mean he is in the best shape he can be for his frame. He small, but his legs are solid, and his calves look like balls. He has been strength training with some of the best trainers since he was a kid.

That is not what built like a truck means.

Describing someone's calves as "like balls" is weird.

He wasn’t going to Howard my guy. He went to Western cause it was his home town team, and the coach there is known for being a bag man.

Why would we recruit a kid who played for a bag man instead of challenging himself at a higher level of basketball and getting NIL money? There are plenty of other options that don't come with baggage.

You're right it's D1 big boy basketball. He had BIG BOY offers. That’s my entire point.

Once again, why do offers matter once you've played college basketball? That continues to be a silly argument.

Another thing is if you are the best player you are gonna get WAY more attention. You are not gonna get clean looks.

He isn't the best player on his team.

 

[Huskyforlife]

Wishing the best for the kid because of what he went through.

I cannot believe this thread got so many replies. Anyone who is entertaining this is only watching mixtapes and referencing his high school ranking from years ago.

He was very bad in his only year of playing at the lowest level of D1 college basketball, how anyone could think this kid would sniff the court for a top 25 team is beyond me. This is on top of the fact you have to worry about his issues resurfacing moving forward.

He’ll transfer up because he put up some volume scoring stats. Some desperate coach will take a chance on the potential, but an established program like us should be aiming for guaranteed contributors and guys with higher upside to fill out the bench. The last point being the main point of this post.

Once again, best of luck to Harmon. College is expensive, and he gets to go for free while enjoying whatever comes with being an athlete at his university. I’m glad he made his way back in some capacity.

 

[Brandon86]

Wishing the best for the kid because of what he went through.

I cannot believe this thread got so many replies. Anyone who is entertaining this is only watching mixtapes and referencing his high school ranking from years ago.

He was very bad in his only year of playing at the lowest level of D1 college basketball, how anyone could think this kid would sniff the court for a top 25 team is beyond me. This is on top of the fact you have to worry about his issues resurfacing moving forward.

He’ll transfer up because he put up some volume scoring stats. Some desperate coach will take a chance on the potential, but an established program like us should be aiming for guaranteed contributors and guys with higher upside to fill out the bench. The last point being the main point of this post.

Once again, best of luck to Harmon. College is expensive, and he gets to go for free while enjoying whatever comes with being an athlete at his university. I’m glad he made his way back in some capacity.

Y’all don’t be knowing nothing about basketball AT ALL. I don’t get how y’all think a kid that has been busting the butts of other top kids in the country for years just forgot stuff. I literally just said something happened to him mentally. Basketball wasn’t his problem. The kid supposedly got laced man. We don’t have one single guard on our roster that’s coming off of screens and shooting the ball off the dribble. We don’t have one guard that can square up and freeze you and pull up. He would be our BEST ball handler on this roster today. Y’all talk about stats. Talk about skill set. One on one he would give buckets to maybe all of our guards right now. I just watched Hawkins get clamped by a 6 foot 8 kid. I’ve watched Harmon get baskets easily against too kids the same size. That’s what I’m saying. If you think he done lost that in 24 months y’all crazy.

 

[Northbound]

So all the schools that originally recruited him are on him hard if he’s a portal option?

This is like some bizarro appliance sales job where you can’t get out of the store. We get what you’re saying the machine can do, but we’re not interested.

If the kid leads KU to a title in the next few year we’ll all say “you were right”

 

[Umami Zen]

Pass.. We will not be lacking for portal interest in UConn.. Can be picky

 

[k-walk]

People don’t gotta listen. When I say built like a truck I mean he is in the best shape he can be for his frame. He small, but his legs are solid, and his calves looks like balls. He been strength training with some of the best trainers since he was a kid. He trained with NBA players. Auburn, Kansas, LSU, Seton Hall, Louisville and I can keep going. He wasn’t going to no Howard my guy. He went to Western cause it was his home town team, and the coach there is known for being a bag man. You right it’s is D1 big boy basketball. He had BIG BOY offers. That’s my entire point. Another thing is if you the best player you gonna get WAY more attention. You not gonna get them clean looks. Y’all bringing up the Kenyon. I watched this kid give Lamelo Ball 25 while laughing doing it.

Lamelo ball wasn’t exactly known for playing defense in hs lmao

 

[Avon]

It’s “One” not in. Don’t come on here talking and you not spelling correctly. My writing can be a whatever. I went to college and I was on on deans list. Y’all just get on the internet and be whoever y’all wanna be. Be people who ain’t ever even probably picked up a basketball before.

Written like a true Dean's List student