Zags Blog on BE COY | The Boneyard

Zags Blog on BE COY

Status
Not open for further replies.
If this any indication it looks Ollie is not winning COY, which baffles me.

Win out and I think things might change.

Jay Wright is laughable. He did such a great coaching job in that loss to Columbia and losing by 20 to Bama. (I know only BE games are suppose to count, but come on.)
 
Because the political sentiment says that a member of the "old guard" should get the final COY Big East award in the last season of its relevance. Not some new kid on the block.
 
We need to destroy gtown to drive this point home. Ollie has us looking like the best offensive team in conference
 
.-.
I think JC should get it for old times' sake. Makes as much sense as Dixon.
 
Buzz Williams? That horrible refs' call is now sticking in my craw more than ever!
 
upstater said:
Buzz Williams? That horrible refs' call is now sticking in my craw more than ever!
Expand ...

Buzz lost his two best players to the NBA, and has the team near the top of the conference, he has as good an argument as anyone.
 
Let's not get too excited about the Big East Coach of the year stuff, huh. While Calhoun, Boeheim and John Thompson and Rollie and Lou Carnesecca have all won it, it has also gone to such unforgettable coaches as Louie Orr, John McCleod (quick, who did he coach?) Brian Mahaney. Mike Brey has won it twice. In what universe is Mike Brey coach of the year not once but twice? FYI the BE coaches of the year in 1999, 2004 and 2011 were:1999 Leonard Hamilton, apparently for getting Miami to the 2nd round of the NCAA tournement, 2004-Jamie Dixon (apparently for begining the tradition of Pitt gagging up a hairball in the NCAA tournament), and 2011-the afore mentioned Mike Brey, for reasons known only to God, though at the time, some suggested that his selection had more to do with his fellow coaches trying to say his job than his actual performance as the Irish alumni were getting somewhat tired of his teams spitting the bit in big situations. This is an award that is given as much for politics as performance.
 
freescooter said:
Let's not get too excited about the Big East Coach of the year stuff, huh. While Calhoun, Boeheim and John Thompson and Rollie and Lou Carnesecca have all won it, it has also gone to such unforgettable coaches as Louie Orr, John McCleod (quick, who did he coach?) Brian Mahaney. Mike Brey has won it twice. In what universe is Mike Brey coach of the year not once but twice? FYI the BE coaches of the year in 1999, 2004 and 2011 were:1999 Leonard Hamilton, apparently for getting Miami to the 2nd round of the NCAA tournement, 2004-Jamie Dixon (apparently for begining the tradition of Pitt gagging up a hairball in the NCAA tournament), and 2011-the afore mentioned Mike Brey, for reasons known only to God, though at the time, some suggested that his selection had more to do with his fellow coaches trying to say his job than his actual performance as the Irish alumni were getting somewhat tired of his teams spitting the bit in big situations. This is an award that is given as much for politics as performance.
Expand ...

I see you've already created your stance now in the case that KO does win one in his first few years, it was simply a political choice. Got to stay ahead of the game, your trolling skills are top notch.
 
.-.
Where are the following Big East Coaches of the Year? Brian Mahaney, Louis Orr, John McCleod?
 
What is Jamie Dixon doing on this list? Pitt had much higher expectations than UConn yet they are behind us in the BE standings. That makes ssense
 
Dixon and Wright are a complete joke. Their teams are right where they were supposed to be and they have had zero adversity in season.
 
This has been a great year for coaches in the BE; Thompson III, Ollie, and Williams are all deserving. Dixon, Wright and even Cooley will get some votes.
 
2012-13 Preseason Coaches’ Poll

Pts.
1. Louisville (14)
196
2. Syracuse
175
3. Notre Dame (1)
166
4. Cincinnati
152
5. Georgetown
136
6. Pittsburgh
132
7. Marquette
121
8. USF
96
9. Connecticut
83
10. St. John’s
73
11. Rutgers
63
12. Villanova
61
13. DePaul
48
14. Seton Hall
42
15. Providence
31

Looking at the preseason list, depending on where teams finish, I can be okay with Wright or JTIII. If Marquette wins the title outright (they won't), I can be okay with them. UConn's got four games left; they'll all be tough. But if they're at 11 wins or over, i think KO should win it.
 
.-.
Wright solidifying his COY candidacy, Nova lost to an awful Seton Hall team on the road tonight.
 
This just highlights how bizarre Dixon being in consideration is. He's doing what was expected while having a deep and veteran roster, basically 2 deep at every position, and he's getting serious COY consideration, unbelievable.

tzznandrew said:
2012-13 Preseason Coaches’ Poll

Pts.
1. Louisville (14)
196
2. Syracuse
175
3. Notre Dame (1)
166
4. Cincinnati
152
5. Georgetown
136
6. Pittsburgh
132
7. Marquette
121
8. USF
96
9. Connecticut
83
10. St. John’s
73
11. Rutgers
63
12. Villanova
61
13. DePaul
48
14. Seton Hall
42
15. Providence
31

Looking at the preseason list, depending on where teams finish, I can be okay with Wright or JTIII. If Marquette wins the title outright (they won't), I can be okay with them. UConn's got four games left; they'll all be tough. But if they're at 11 wins or over, i think KO should win it.
Expand ...
 
I think the problem is the coaches forget who they placed where in the pre-season polls - I'm not even joking. How else could you explain Dixon being in the mix? And Villanova losing to Seton Hall tonight should bury Jay Wright's campaign. In my opinion, it's between Ollie, Thompson, and Williams.
 
champs99and04 said:
I think the problem is the coaches forget who they placed where in the pre-season polls - I'm not even joking. How else could you explain Dixon being in the mix? And Villanova losing to Seton Hall tonight should bury Jay Wright's campaign. In my opinion, it's between Ollie, Thompson, and Williams.
Expand ...

So if PC wins out and finishes 7th; Cooley isn't in the mix?
 
aceboon said:
Wright solidifying his COY candidacy, Nova lost to an awful Seton Hall team on the road tonight.
Expand ...
Yeah. There goes that. Winning that game wasn't important; losing that game was devastating.
 
.-.
seanmc94 said:
So if PC wins out and finishes 7th; Cooley isn't in the mix?
Expand ...
So, 18-12 (10-8)? They were predicted last in the conference....

I don't think he gets the votes, but it's a compelling argument. But Cooley--like KO--is a bit premature. If UConn were to lose out, 9-9 isn't bad, but it isn't COY. At the end of the season, though if they finish above .500, it wouldn't be unreasonable to see his name thrown out there.
 
seanmc94 said:
So if PC wins out and finishes 7th; Cooley isn't in the mix?
Expand ...

A lot depends on the final few games. ATM Ollie, Thompson and Buzz all are ahead or should be.

Also, losing to DePaul automatically eliminates any chances, didn't you know? JK.
 
seanmc94 said:
So if PC wins out and finishes 7th; Cooley isn't in the mix?
Expand ...

Sure, he'd be in the mix if he wins out. But there are three other coaches who would be 100% locks if they win out. We can speculate all we want about how the season plays out, but Cooley's not in the top 3 as of today.
 
Winning counts, GU was picked 5th if they win BE Thompson will get coach of the year award. If UConn finishes tied for second, it will be a bigger accomplishment but no one remembers second place finishers. Only olympic gold counts, no one cares about silver medals. At least they don't in the USA.
 
gibhunter said:
Winning counts, GU was picked 5th if they win BE Thompson will get coach of the year award. If UConn finishes tied for second, it will be a bigger accomplishment but no one remembers second place finishers. Only olympic gold counts, no one cares about silver medals. At least they don't in the USA.
Expand ...
I think that is true, but in coach of the year stuff, other factors come into play such as whether some coaches are ticked at others, who is on the hot seat or not. had Ollie not gotten an extension yet, I have no doubt, for example, that he'd be a very likely candidate. The other thing is that it is partly a question of who you coach. UConn finishing in the top 5 of the Big East is more or less "normal." If you're coaching DePaul and get them up to 10th, that might be a huge accomplishment. Frankly this(well not only the Big East version, most conference COY awards) is one of the more bogus awards in sports.
 
seanmc94 said:
So if PC wins out and finishes 7th; Cooley isn't in the mix?
Expand ...

Yeah, if PC wins out, you would have to at least give him a look. I don't think Providence deserved to be ranked last in the pre-season polls, though - they are a solid club that would be in the mix for a bid if it weren't for the injuries earlier in the season. Cooley has done a good job, though. I think he's fourth or fifth right now.
 
.-.
Status
Not open for further replies.

Forum statistics

Threads
168,207
Messages
4,556,878
Members
10,442
Latest member
Virginiafan


Top Bottom