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Rewatching Narcos and Narcos:Mexico. I missed a lot the first time I watched this show, probably because of all the subtitles. This show is truly brilliant, and one of the best shows ever made. The characters are so well written and acted, and the show does a great job linking all the relationships through the six seasons.

One of the most amazing things Narcos does is give so many of the characters depth and uniqueness when there are so many characters in the show. The show also does a great job of building suspense, which is hard when we can look up how it ends anytime we want.

The acting is awesome for the most part, and other than a handful of American actors, Diego Luna, and Michael Peña, I had never seen most of them before this show.

I think the first season, while excellent, is probably the weakest of the whole series. Season 2, 3 and all the seasons of Narcos: Mexico are incredible.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Glad to see Justified getting some love. I always thought that show deserved a lot more attention than it got.
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I just finished it on Monday. It was enjoyable and a fun ride for the most part, but not sure it would make my top 10.

But it did give me a couple of lingering thoughts:
1) Elmore Leonard has had some success in translating his work to the screen. I wish that someone would finally give Carl Hiassen the same courtesy.
2) I wish I was married to, or divorced from, Natalie Zea.
 
storrsroars said:
2) I wish I was married to, or divorced from, Natalie Zea.
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You're not wrong about that. She's remained fairly low profile. I think I saw she has something new coming out, can't even remember what it is.
 
storrsroars said:
I just finished it on Monday. It was enjoyable and a fun ride for the most part, but not sure it would make my top 10.

But it did give me a couple of lingering thoughts:
1) Elmore Leonard has had some success in translating his work to the screen. I wish that someone would finally give Carl Hiassen the same courtesy.
2) I wish I was married to, or divorced from, Natalie Zea.
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I was more partial to Joelle Carter, but to each his own. Walton Goggins played one of the more memorable and fascinating characters ever, better version of Tony Soprano in some ways.

I'm not sure I've seen anything new I'd append to my list. Stranger Things would be the one candidate. I would note that my list on page one didn't include "mini series", which is how I'd categorize Band of Brothers. Otherwise it would top the list.

I tried The Wire and found it dated and boring. Couldn't get past an episode. Better Call Saul was similar, just didn't do anything for me in the first couple episodes so I quit it. I liked Breaking Bad. Mad Men was another I just didn't care for and dropped.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I was more partial to Joelle Carter, but to each his own. Walton Goggins played one of the more memorable and fascinating characters ever, better version of Tony Soprano in some ways.
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Joelle got better looking and a bit less white trashy after her prison stay. But Natalie Zea could believably play a mom who hadn't had a good sleep in weeks and was holding and trying to quiet a screaming infant and still be sexy as hell.

I can't equate Boyd with Tony. I did enjoy the banter and relationship with Raylan, but Tony was rarely in a truly precarious situation with his life and he kept his key soldiers throughout. Boyd never had a Silvio, unless you count Johnny, who he disrespected. It was just a rotating cast of incompetent flunkies. And Boyd seemed to narrowly dodge death five times a season, which became almost comical.
 
In no particular order.

The Wire
The Sopranos
Deadwood
Boardwalk Empire
Peaky Blinders
Breaking Bad
GoT
Narcos
Lost
Vikings
 
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storrsroars said:
Joelle got better looking and a bit less white trashy after her prison stay. But Natalie Zea could believably play a mom who hadn't had a good sleep in weeks and was holding and trying to quiet a screaming infant and still be sexy as hell.

I can't equate Boyd with Tony. I did enjoy the banter and relationship with Raylan, but Tony was rarely in a truly precarious situation with his life and he kept his key soldiers throughout. Boyd never had a Silvio, unless you count Johnny, who he disrespected. It was just a rotating cast of incompetent flunkies. And Boyd seemed to narrowly dodge death five times a season, which became almost comical.
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My comparison was different. Tony was a despicable, awful person, and yet you liked something about him. Boyd had that as well, somehow it was hard to hate him no matter how bad he was. Al in Deadwood was another one like that, and again an all time great character because of it.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Rewatching Narcos and Narcos:Mexico. I missed a lot the first time I watched this show, probably because of all the subtitles. This show is truly brilliant, and one of the best shows ever made. The characters are so well written and acted, and the show does a great job linking all the relationships through the six seasons.

One of the most amazing things Narcos does is give so many of the characters depth and uniqueness when there are so many characters in the show. The show also does a great job of building suspense, which is hard when we can look up how it ends anytime we want.

The acting is awesome for the most part, and other than a handful of American actors, Diego Luna, and Michael Peña, I had never seen most of them before this show.

I think the first season, while excellent, is probably the weakest of the whole series. Season 2, 3 and all the seasons of Narcos: Mexico are incredible.
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Finished the rewatch: I would rank the seasons in the following order:

1) Narcos Season 2 - the sheer insanity of Pablo vs. everyone and all the corners the DEA cut and deals with the devil the DEA made make this the best season.

2) Narcos: Mexico Season 2 - the emergence of the plazas as a threat to Felix Gallardo as he betrays his allies was very interesting and builds up well. Neto and Rafa were great characters.

3) Narcos Season 3 - For all their alleged class and refinement, the Cali Cartel was as vicious as any of the Narcos, especially when they got dragged into a fight with the North Valley Cartel. I really liked how sharp the DEA was but still had trouble keeping up with Cali's chess moves.

4) Narcos: Mexico Season 1 - The rise of Felix Gallardo. This season does a great job portraying Felix, who was brilliant, but not loved or even really respected. The corrupt DFS Captain was a great character.

5) Narcos: Mexico Season 3 - Sinaloa vs. Tijuana was really interesting, especially because, as Felix knew, they should have been allies but turned into vicious enemies. Juarez's Amado was very well done and believable, but like everything in Mexico, no matter how powerful a Narco got, they couldn't get beyond the corruption of the Mexican elite like Hank. Some of this season is sad and hopeless, which accurately reflects the Drug War. My only complaint was there was not much about the Gulf Cartel, which became very important in real life during the 2000's. If they had added more Gulf this season would probably have been my second favorite season. The whole season feels like something important is missing from the story. There are enough allusions to the Gulf Cartel that it almost seems like they started to film that plot arc, then edited the Gulf out.

6) Narcos Season 1 - This season is still excellent, but it is my least favorite for two reasons: 1) Pablo is a bit of a super villain in this season which, while mostly true, makes the story a bit less dramatic, and 2) the first three or four episodes are a bit slow. It covers stuff that actually happened, but Pablo's political dreams were never realistic and just aren't that interesting compared to the rest of the story.
 
I thought Justified had an all-time last episode. As well as some all-time supporting characters like Wynne Duffy, Dewey Crowe and Ice Pick.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Finished the rewatch: I would rank the seasons in the following order:

1) Narcos Season 2 - the sheer insanity of Pablo vs. everyone and all the corners the DEA cut and deals with the devil the DEA made make this the best season.

2) Narcos: Mexico Season 2 - the emergence of the plazas as a threat to Felix Gallardo as he betrays his allies was very interesting and builds up well. Neto and Rafa were great characters.

3) Narcos Season 3 - For all their alleged class and refinement, the Cali Cartel was as vicious as any of the Narcos, especially when they got dragged into a fight with the North Valley Cartel. I really liked how sharp the DEA was but still had trouble keeping up with Cali's chess moves.

4) Narcos: Mexico Season 1 - The rise of Felix Gallardo. This season does a great job portraying Felix, who was brilliant, but not loved or even really respected. The corrupt DFS Captain was a great character.

5) Narcos: Mexico Season 3 - Sinaloa vs. Tijuana was really interesting, especially because, as Felix knew, they should have been allies but turned into vicious enemies. Juarez's Amado was very well done and believable, but like everything in Mexico, no matter how powerful a Narco got, they couldn't get beyond the corruption of the Mexican elite like Hank. Some of this season is sad and hopeless, which accurately reflects the Drug War. My only complaint was there was not much about the Gulf Cartel, which became very important in real life during the 2000's. If they had added more Gulf this season would probably have been my second favorite season. The whole season feels like something important is missing from the story. There are enough allusions to the Gulf Cartel that it almost seems like they started to film that plot arc, then edited the Gulf out.

6) Narcos Season 1 - This season is still excellent, but it is my least favorite for two reasons: 1) Pablo is a bit of a super villain in this season which, while mostly true, makes the story a bit less dramatic, and 2) the first three or four episodes are a bit slow. It covers stuff that actually happened, but Pablo's political dreams were never realistic and just aren't that interesting compared to the rest of the story.
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Narcos was amazing. I'm not even sure how I would rank them. I think Mexico was great too. Season 1 of Mexico was tremendous IMO. Gallardo was played to perfection.
 
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superjohn said:
That's where I am too. Finished season 3 a couple of weeks ago and I'm waiting to start season 4.

Glad you're enjoying it.
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It does have its slow episodes, but the the good ones are really damned good. I just blew thru S5 and the cliffhanger at the end of E10 has me jonesing for S6 like I'm on the pipe.
 
storrsroars said:
It does have its slow episodes, but the the good ones are really damned good. I just blew thru S5 and the cliffhanger at the end of E10 has me jonesing for S6 like I'm on the pipe.
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Damn, you flew through that.
 
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