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Kitaman said:
Are we sleeping on AA? He's experienced and practicing daily with our 3 guards will help elevate his game higher. Throw in our NBA guard coach, he may be a difference maker, especially in critical foul situations.

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The only "AA" folks around here are conversant with is Alcoholics Anonymous.

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Looking at the roster we all know where the strengths and weaknesses are. Points from our front court will be at a premium but by committee can we get 20 ppg from Onuorah, Carlton, Cobb, Whaley, Diarra and Polley? That's what 3-4 ppg each? I'm betting that's possible as an average. Assuming health of course:
Adams had 14 ppg last year is he ready for 18?
Vital for 10?
Gilbert for 10?
Larrier for 14?
Anderson for 4?
If we can get 20 ppg from those 6 and this team can defend, rebound and score in the mid to high 70s can we win enough games given a pretty challenging OOC schedule?
 
Chief00 said:
That was all about Calhoun tweaking Daniels before the game - saying no one is talking about you - Daniels was 6-9 or 6-10. How does argue against tall dudes!
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You underrate the value of the length.

7-2 wingspan is just condor like.

It means his standing reach is similar to a guy a few inches taller.

If he was 6-8 would you really be complaining?
 
I was away for 2 weeks without much internet so coming back to no roster committments or additions is disappointing but it looks like we really need Diarra with his shoulders and strength to rebound. He can't be mediocre. Our other forwards are UCONN skinny that we have been used to 6'8" 190. So when we go against muscle its Cobb and Diarra. Larrier is very skilled but can be take the punishment, is he fragile? The guards are our strength and and all questions on the front court remain. In fact I don't remember a more questionable front court but I'm sure somebody will point one out.
 
the Q said:
You underrate the value of the length.

7-2 wingspan is just condor like.

It means his standing reach is similar to a guy a few inches taller.

If he was 6-8 would you really be complaining?
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Assuming Mama didn't' grow since then, his 8'11" standing reach is only 2-4" from our most heralded bigs (other than Thabeet) Bigger question for me is whether he can regain his explosiveness. based on the game videos of him, he seemed to jump very quickly (hints of Elton brand fast) and dunk everything around the hoop, something that many of our 6'10" guys failed to do.

Not saying he will start or be great, but less worried about his height given the 8'11" reach
 
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This is easy stuff. We have a frontocurt of 3 star recruits who haven't played a lick of D1 basketball. One or two of these guys might turn out to be servicable next year. We have people on this board saying Phil Nolan can't compare with this front court and Diarra is the next Adrien,,,we don't know. We have people saying Anderson could be huge for us, my guess is he will be a servicable 4th or 5th guard,,,he was the 4th leading scorer on a terrible Atlantic 10 team.

I get it's crazy season but people need to check themselves. The way we are good and relevant again is if Jalen is amazing and Gilbert and Larrier are healthy and really good. Need solid contributions from the guys inside but Nolan and any other "stiffs" from UConn's past would get minutes.
 
David 76 said:
We have 4 guys listed as 6' 9", 3 at 6' 8" and one at 6'7".

None listed as 6'6". Your Pont that they lie about their height but previous player didn't? Or just talking out of your hole?
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Our best big man ever was probably a legit 6'8 "
He was also super strong
 
superjohn said:
This is easy stuff. We have a frontocurt of 3 star recruits.......
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Pretty sure Diarra was a consensus 4 star, and technically ESPN has Carlton as a 4 star & had Cobb as a 4 star in 2015....and Polley although probably more a hybrid is a consensus 4 star ....for whatever it's all worth just to be accurate.
 
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80shusky said:
Looking at the roster we all know where the strengths and weaknesses are. Points from our front court will be at a premium but by committee can we get 20 ppg from Onuorah, Carlton, Cobb, Whaley, Diarra and Polley? That's what 3-4 ppg each? I'm betting that's possible as an average. Assuming health of course:
Adams had 14 ppg last year is he ready for 18?
Vital for 10?
Gilbert for 10?
Larrier for 14?
Anderson for 4?
If we can get 20 ppg from those 6 and this team can defend, rebound and score in the mid to high 70s can we win enough games given a pretty challenging OOC schedule?
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We need at least 50-55 ppg from Adams, Larrier, Gilbert and Vital.
 
Hi-Low said:
Pretty sure Diarra was a consensus 4 star, and technically ESPN has Carlton as a 4 star & had Cobb as a 4 star in 2015....and Polley although probably more a hybrid is a consensus 4 star ....for whatever it's all worth just to be accurate.
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It's just a lot easier to make blanket statements about how bad players are, even if one has never seen them play, than to actually look up facts and stuff... ;)
 
Any insight on why Jalen changed to #4?
 
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Huskybass said:
You have lost me on this one. Emeka was our best big man ever and he was 6'10". Who is the 6' 8" guy?
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Emeka was about 6'10 maybe 6'11 in shoes
I was using hyperbole
He did have length and incredible strength
My point was all of sudden our listed 6'10 guys are 6'7 or 6'8 , like this game hasn't been played in BB since Naismith
 
I think he means Okafor, who was listed in the NBA at 6'9 at one point, so maybe he's just exaggerating.

Okafor wasn't much more than 6'9 though, and not long arms either. He was incredible enough to get past that.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
Emeka was about 6'10 maybe 6'11 in shoes
I was using hyperbole
He did have length and incredible strength
My point was all of sudden our listed 6'10 guys are 6'7 or 6'8 , like this game hasn't been played in BB since Naismith
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Okafor was 6'10 in shoes with a 7'4 wingspan and a 9'2.5 standing reach. He had a 34 inch max vert and a guard like 3.15 sprint at the combine.

He was a really good athlete.
 
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UConnNick said:
That's a small roster, realistically nobody over 6-8, considering that heights are usually inflated. We need an "aircraft carrier" as Al McGuire used to say. Anybody with a decent 7 footer in their lineup is going to pose problems for us.
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If I remember correctly, people say Diarra is longer than he is tall if that makes sense. Hopefully he developes especially on D. I hear what you're saying though...long 6'8'' still aint 7'.
 
the Q said:
Okafor was 6'10 in shoes with a 7'4 wingspan and a 9'2.5 standing reach. He had a 34 inch max vert and a guard like 3.15 sprint at the combine.

He was a really ing good athlete.
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Did he have a long wingspan? I am genuinely asking bc then I am "misremembering."

I thought he had shorter than normal arms, but I know one thing: He had every other physical and mental aspect. Obviously.

If he was a legit 7'0 he may have been a total freak, though I know how back injuries can stunt your abilities.
 
80shusky said:
Looking at the roster we all know where the strengths and weaknesses are. Points from our front court will be at a premium but by committee can we get 20 ppg from Onuorah, Carlton, Cobb, Whaley, Diarra and Polley? That's what 3-4 ppg each? I'm betting that's possible as an average. Assuming health of course:
Adams had 14 ppg last year is he ready for 18?
Vital for 10?
Gilbert for 10?
Larrier for 14?
Anderson for 4?
If we can get 20 ppg from those 6 and this team can defend, rebound and score in the mid to high 70s can we win enough games given a pretty challenging OOC schedule?
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Let's be realistic. Maybe we can get 20 points from the 6 front court players listed vs Coppin St. But against our better opponents like Villanova getting 20 is very unlikely. You are saying 10 points per game from the 4 and 5. When was the last year that happened?
 
Mr. French said:
Did he have a long wingspan? I am genuinely asking bc then I am "misremembering."

I thought he had shorter than normal arms, but I know one thing: He had every other physical and mental aspect. Obviously.

If he was a legit 7'0 he may have been a total freak, though I know how back injuries can stunt your abilities.
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Those were the numbers I got from draft express.

And yes the world never saw him at the peak because of those back issues
 
ucp990411 said:
Let's be realistic. Maybe we can get 20 points from the 6 front court players listed vs Coppin St. But against our better opponents like Villanova getting 20 is very unlikely. You are saying 10 points per game from the 4 and 5. When was the last year that happened?
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Last year between Brimah, Facey, Durham, and Enoch they averaged 21 PPG, so not too long ago
 
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So with Williams in the fold, the roster is pretty much set. I think Larrier may play a little at the 4, but we now have a lot of quantity at the 4. Do we have enough quality? Nobody knows. Onuorah missed all but one game last season, and averaged 5 points 7 boards and 1.5 blocks the year before. I'll assume he would have slightly improved those numbers. I think he and Cobb will battle for starting center unless Carlton shows a lot. Carlton could win the job later in the year. I expect Diarra to start at the PF spot, with Williams, Larrier and Cobb all seeing time there. Whaley and Polley are wildcards.

My high level thoughts are that this team is rather deep in players who seem of similar ability across the front court, Larrier excluded. Ollie could finally press and run with this team. All of these guys seem to be able to get up and down the floor. Most of them seem to be able to finish. Several of them have some solid muscle for a change.

As to Chief's assertion that you need some 6'10-7' shot blocking beast in the middle, it hasn't been that way for many years, if ever. I would like to see us play like this team did. I hope to hell that that is what Ollie has in mind with the kids he's bringing in, and the depth of athleticism.

Guards and Wings
Adams
Gilbert
Vital
Anderson
Larrier
Polley

Bigs
Onuorah
Carlton
Cobb
Diarra
Whaley
Williams
 
HuskyHawk said:
So with Williams in the fold, the roster is pretty much set. I think Larrier may play a little at the 4, but we now have a lot of quantity at the 4. Do we have enough quality? Nobody knows. Onuorah missed all but one game last season, and averaged 5 points 7 boards and 1.5 blocks the year before. I'll assume he would have slightly improved those numbers. I think he and Cobb will battle for starting center unless Carlton shows a lot. Carlton could win the job later in the year. I expect Diarra to start at the PF spot, with Williams, Larrier and Cobb all seeing time there. Whaley and Polley are wildcards.

My high level thoughts are that this team is rather deep in players who seem of similar ability across the front court, Larrier excluded. Ollie could finally press and run with this team. All of these guys seem to be able to get up and down the floor. Most of them seem to be able to finish. Several of them have some solid muscle for a change.

As to Chief's assertion that you need some 6'10-7' shot blocking beast in the middle, it hasn't been that way for many years, if ever. I would like to see us play like this team did. I hope to hell that that is what Ollie has in mind with the kids he's bringing in, and the depth of athleticism.

Guards and Wings
Adams
Gilbert
Vital
Anderson
Larrier
Polley

Bigs
Onuorah
Carlton
Cobb
Diarra
Whaley
Williams
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I like it. A bit more uncertainty than I felt at this time last year, but we know certainty can be derailed very quickly (i.e., 3 games in). This team has me very excited to see what the wildcards have in store for us and how everything comes together. Maybe boom, maybe bust, but very exciting at this moment.
 
Kemba2Rememba said:
I like it. A bit more uncertainty than I felt at this time last year, but we know certainty can be derailed very quickly (i.e., 3 games in). This team has me very excited to see what the wildcards have in store for us and how everything comes together. Maybe boom, maybe bust, but very exciting at this moment.
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Well I'm not as excited as you but it should be entertaining one way or the other and KO has almost used all his scholarships in a year were he has to win to keep his job. Not sure the parts fit but we should find out soon.
 
HuskyHawk said:
So with Williams in the fold, the roster is pretty much set. I think Larrier may play a little at the 4, but we now have a lot of quantity at the 4. Do we have enough quality? Nobody knows. Onuorah missed all but one game last season, and averaged 5 points 7 boards and 1.5 blocks the year before. I'll assume he would have slightly improved those numbers. I think he and Cobb will battle for starting center unless Carlton shows a lot. Carlton could win the job later in the year. I expect Diarra to start at the PF spot, with Williams, Larrier and Cobb all seeing time there. Whaley and Polley are wildcards.

My high level thoughts are that this team is rather deep in players who seem of similar ability across the front court, Larrier excluded. Ollie could finally press and run with this team. All of these guys seem to be able to get up and down the floor. Most of them seem to be able to finish. Several of them have some solid muscle for a change.

As to Chief's assertion that you need some 6'10-7' shot blocking beast in the middle, it hasn't been that way for many years, if ever. I would like to see us play like this team did. I hope to hell that that is what Ollie has in mind with the kids he's bringing in, and the depth of athleticism.

Guards and Wings
Adams
Gilbert
Vital
Anderson
Larrier
Polley

Bigs
Onuorah
Carlton
Cobb
Diarra
Whaley
Williams
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I am pretty sure that Thabeet and Okafor were indeed tall, shotblocking beasts, as was Brimah.
 
Huskybass said:
I am pretty sure that Thabeet and Okafor were indeed tall, shotblocking beasts, as was Brimah.
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What the hell does that have to do with the fact that many teams can get to the final four without such players? Those guys are scarce. I hope what we are seeing is Ollie looking for other ways to win, ways that are probably more sustainable in our current situation.
 
the Q said:
Okafor was 6'10 in shoes with a 7'4 wingspan and a 9'2.5 standing reach. He had a 34 inch max vert and a guard like 3.15 sprint at the combine.

He was a really ing good athlete.
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I heard most people play basketball in shoes! So that's good.
 
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