What you and mauconn need to realize is that nobody wants to rip shabazz. Id much rather be cheering for him like a little girl than ripping him. The last thing I want is for him to be playing this pathetically. But at the same time you have to face the facts. Hes been downright awful lately. In every facet of the game including energy and effort. That is what nobody can defend; this teams effort.
People have to eat crow for their follies. I keep repeating this stuff because the changes still are not being made by the coaching staff, once they are made I wont even post anymore about Daniels, Napier, etc etc.
I don't believe you. People definitely want to rip or they wouldn't be doing it. It is obvious he hasn't been playing his best lately. I personally think it is confidence and part of that is "fans" being downright cruel. I am just saying I think he will come back. I don't know the answer as to how, I don't know who should start. My opinion doesn't really matter anyway. Also, I was just trying to bond with ma, not be told "what I need to realize." Everything posted here is speculation and opinion for the most part. I don't know what else to say without continuing a stupid dialogue. I just like Shabazz and think he's having a really rough time right now. I don't think it's indicative of his actual talent, nor of his character. It's too bad these kids have to grow up and learn lessons in front of a million people, but I am faithful that those things will happen. That's all! I have faith!
Haha wow what a substantive argument. It's all relative buddy. Dd had some great games in the beginning of the year too. Does that mean he should keep playing? Shabazz has been atrocious the past few games. His play has been a disgrace. Does that mean be should never play again? No. Am I arguing he is awful and will never play well again? No. But it does mean that as long as he continues to play as pathetically as he has been and continues to noy give a and show no leadership whatsoever then be deserves to sit on the bench. And no I'm not glad he sucks. Do I sound like a happy fan?
True, but lamb doesn't do enough to create his shot. The staff should sit him down and make him watch hours of Rip moveing without the ball.
Neither of you have been on the Boneyard long enough to talk about "unbearable"...your stupidity maybe yes, the fact you think you actually know anything - yes, but there's plenty of those to go around but most aren't stupid enough to limit their opinion of the slump to one guy....only idiots would not see the big picture!!!
Let me spell it out and I will try to go slow for you and 32:
Lamb is not playing well at all, on either end. He looks for the big play on the defensive end always losing his man and leaving someone else in need to help. Hence the domino principle of noone guarding their own. He has thrown more mason bricks in the last handful of games than all of last year. His handle is something only he has fallen in love with, maybe besides the defenders who are picking him quite often in the doubleteam. He needs to work more off the pick and continue to run in a Rip manner to shoot off the pass and also possibly go to the floater which was his signature last year......
Bazz has been awful for the most part. Not easy to be good for he, Boat or JL if the bigs continue to be worthless in the post but nonetheless he is not delviering passes and worst of all is in a shooting slump. Much to you and 32's chagrin he proved to be worthy of playing a very good solid point for a dozen games but like many soph's he is in a bad way confidence wise. (anyone remember Rips slump? It was awful and he came out of it but no matter even the best have'em)He also, like Lamb, tends to look for the steal rather than keeping his man iin front of him. That needs to change and he neds to make shots........
Boat..........has looked very good but is simply not a point guard. He can play it at times but his game is penetrate and take chances......he also looks to make the big play like all the guys above and we need someone with consistency and a very goo TO ratio.....nevermind the alley oop all the time just make a pass...pretty is wonderful and great but TO's kill and right now all of the guards are too pretty.............he can get to the hole and I love that. But much like Kemba as a soph needs to stop and get a mid range game to be a competely effective finisher. Otherwise he will go in the trees to oten and come out empty more than the oohs and Ahhs plays....nonetheless a terrific athlete who is fearless and also can make other PGs crazy from a defensive standpoint. But again, needs to keep his guy in front of him a bit more, although I think he's been very good.
Interior as a whole...............I can break this down as a group because noone, despite your efforts to make people think otherwise, has been any good at all. Andre is going backwards, his potential is huge, his intellect and ability to play up to speed and size has been dreadfull ahgainst good opposition. No post up game, too nice and too much in love with his passing game which isn't as good as he thinks. Needs to think FINISH at all times. Alex played one good game agains a tiny SH team minus Pope and went back to his inconsistencies against Ville. No hands hurts badly on the post rebounds, loose balls and everything. Never boxes out and elevates poorly. Other than that you're so right, he should play at least 35 minutes (????)......Tyler, still trying to block shots and he can't which leaves him out of position and he won't get help from Alex or Andre because they don't know how....as a team the worst "hedge and get back" defense ever.......Roscoe, just no offensive game to speak of, Stanly was twice as good to put it in perspective. Good, hard worker can get rebounds and guard people but he's not close on that end either to last year and has not proven he deserves any more time than any of them..................basically they are still. and should still be, in search mode for the guys on the interior who want to show some toughness, consistency and give our guys an avenue to open things up for them. Right now NONE have done that.............
Have at it smart guys...........you seem to have it all figured out and that's fn funny !!!!
Why do insist on wasting your time? My initial argument was that Shabazz has been playing awful and needs to sit until his attitude and effort improve. Its that simple. And now after bringing in various other arguments you now argue that length of time as a member here enables you to be disgusted by our teams play? WTF does that have to do with it? Stop talking about every other player and challenging me to an argument about them. If you want to actually make an argument about my initial claim about Shabazz that you decided to fight me about, then please do so. But stop going on and on and making completely irrelevant statements. For the record I agree completely with your analysis of our frontcourt and mostly the rest of the team as well.Neither of you have been on the Boneyard long enough to talk about "unbearable"...your stupidity maybe yes, the fact you think you actually know anything - yes, but there's plenty of those to go around but most aren't stupid enough to limit their opinion of the slump to one guy....only idiots would not see the big picture!!!
Let me spell it out and I will try to go slow for you and 32:
Lamb is not playing well at all, on either end. He looks for the big play on the defensive end always losing his man and leaving someone else in need to help. Hence the domino principle of noone guarding their own. He has thrown more mason bricks in the last handful of games than all of last year. His handle is something only he has fallen in love with, maybe besides the defenders who are picking him quite often in the doubleteam. He needs to work more off the pick and continue to run in a Rip manner to shoot off the pass and also possibly go to the floater which was his signature last year......
Bazz has been awful for the most part. Not easy to be good for he, Boat or JL if the bigs continue to be worthless in the post but nonetheless he is not delviering passes and worst of all is in a shooting slump. Much to you and 32's chagrin he proved to be worthy of playing a very good solid point for a dozen games but like many soph's he is in a bad way confidence wise. (anyone remember Rips slump? It was awful and he came out of it but no matter even the best have'em)He also, like Lamb, tends to look for the steal rather than keeping his man iin front of him. That needs to change and he neds to make shots........
Boat..........has looked very good but is simply not a point guard. He can play it at times but his game is penetrate and take chances......he also looks to make the big play like all the guys above and we need someone with consistency and a very goo TO ratio.....nevermind the alley oop all the time just make a pass...pretty is wonderful and great but TO's kill and right now all of the guards are too pretty.............he can get to the hole and I love that. But much like Kemba as a soph needs to stop and get a mid range game to be a competely effective finisher. Otherwise he will go in the trees to oten and come out empty more than the oohs and Ahhs plays....nonetheless a terrific athlete who is fearless and also can make other PGs crazy from a defensive standpoint. But again, needs to keep his guy in front of him a bit more, although I think he's been very good.
Interior as a whole...............I can break this down as a group because noone, despite your efforts to make people think otherwise, has been any good at all. Andre is going backwards, his potential is huge, his intellect and ability to play up to speed and size has been dreadfull ahgainst good opposition. No post up game, too nice and too much in love with his passing game which isn't as good as he thinks. Needs to think FINISH at all times. Alex played one good game agains a tiny SH team minus Pope and went back to his inconsistencies against Ville. No hands hurts badly on the post rebounds, loose balls and everything. Never boxes out and elevates poorly. Other than that you're so right, he should play at least 35 minutes (????)......Tyler, still trying to block shots and he can't which leaves him out of position and he won't get help from Alex or Andre because they don't know how....as a team the worst "hedge and get back" defense ever.......Roscoe, just no offensive game to speak of, Stanly was twice as good to put it in perspective. Good, hard worker can get rebounds and guard people but he's not close on that end either to last year and has not proven he deserves any more time than any of them..................basically they are still. and should still be, in search mode for the guys on the interior who want to show some toughness, consistency and give our guys an avenue to open things up for them. Right now NONE have done that.............
Have at it smart guys...........you seem to have it all figured out and that's fn funny !!!!
