You folks hoping to bring in a transfer, this is for you

[cancontent]

5th year and older seniors. I think we already have many examples of 5th year players staying in college versus entering the draft. Azzi? Paige?

The COVID year exception is done. Azzi had redshirt injury years to leverage, which she had every right to use.

Still don't think the scenarios are the same for WBB players as it is for MBB players. If there was a "one and done" component to the women's game, then I could see your point.

 

[Skeets]

The COVID year exception is done. Azzi had redshirt injury years to leverage, which she had every right to use.

Still don't think the scenarios are the same for WBB players as it is for MBB players. If there was a "one and done" component to the women's game, then I could see your point.

Paige made millions more in college than her rookie WNBA salary. I don't think her WNBA salary is enough to pay her income tax. But a new agreement is now governing the WNBA. Even with that, I believe the very top players can earn at least as much money staying in college. It's hard to quantify because the NIL is hard to nail down.

 

[visitingcock]

Paige made millions more in college than her rookie WNBA salary. I don't think her WNBA salary is enough to pay her income tax. But a new agreement is now governing the WNBA. Even with that, I believe the very top players can earn at least as much money staying in college. It's hard to quantify because the NIL is hard to nail down.

Yes, Paige made more in college than her WNBA rookie salary. But that ignores the NIL that she earned while in her first year of the W. Her personal earnings from podcasts, shoe contracts and other endorsements didn’t disappear. She carried them with her to the pros and may have increased them so that her gross income increased. The more fair comparison is College revenue share vs. first year salary.

I don’t know if players would vote for it but I think a school’s annual revenue share should be divided equally between all players on the roster. Third party NIL belongs to the individual.

Let’s look at the SEC proposed model. Wbb teams get about 5% of the House 20.5 million revenue sharing cap. That’s about 1 million dollars for a Wbb. Assume a 15 member team. That’s 67,000 per player! Or for a 10 player roster like SCar’s in 2024 that’s 100k. Good base annual pay, but not
Obscene. And team unity isn’t disrupted by inequity of rev share. Of course, the 3rd party contract rights still belong to the individual players,

Forgive my digression.

 

[cancontent]

Paige made millions more in college than her rookie WNBA salary. I don't think her WNBA salary is enough to pay her income tax. But a new agreement is now governing the WNBA. Even with that, I believe the very top players can earn at least as much money staying in college. It's hard to quantify because the NIL is hard to nail down.

No argument there, but the earlier post I responded to was about declaring early for the draft and that the numbers could potentially increase in WBB. I disagree because of the current rules in place to be eligible for declaring early. The percentage who are eligible every year are low from what I recall.

Now with the recent NCAA decision regarding 5 years eligibility, this could change. Technically athletes could be seen as declaring early even though they graduated in 4 years. We won't know for sure for another 4 - 5 years though.🤷‍♀️

 

[BobbyJ]

What I don't understand is the the frenzy of a lot of schools to hand out a lot of money to a lot of transfers. In the "Why are we doing this?" department I look at, oh let's say, Oklahoma St. The WBB program lives and will stay in the respectable but non NC contender category for the foreseeable future. Their athletic dept. lost $5M last year and their WBB team draws an average of 3K per home game. Why then would they give $1.4M to Audi Crooks for one year of basically the same results? Maybe I'm missing something but what are they doing here? If it's boosters putting up most of this money, what will they get out of this?

 

[HopJim]

Perhaps this should have its own post but the current college pay scale is likely creating a new tier of leagues. The top 40 or so big donor schools will compete based on funding while the mid-majors and similar schools will be forced to compete within new organizations. Would love to see a more realistic structure that doesn't cause schools to defer their donor funding to creating 18-19 year old millionaires, but there does not appear to be significant interest in making changes.

 

[Skeets]

Yes, Paige made more in college than her WNBA rookie salary. But that ignores the NIL that she earned while in her first year of the W. Her personal earnings from podcasts, shoe contracts and other endorsements didn’t disappear. She carried them with her to the pros and may have increased them so that her gross income increased. The more fair comparison is College revenue share vs. first year salary.

I don’t know if players would vote for it but I think a school’s annual revenue share should be divided equally between all players on the roster. Third party NIL belongs to the individual.

Let’s look at the SEC proposed model. Wbb teams get about 5% of the House 20.5 million revenue sharing cap. That’s about 1 million dollars for a Wbb. Assume a 15 member team. That’s 67,000 per player! Or for a 10 player roster like SCar’s in 2024 that’s 100k. Good base annual pay, but not
Obscene. And team unity isn’t disrupted by inequity of rev share. Of course, the 3rd party contract rights still belong to the individual players,

Forgive my digression.

True, Paige might be making more in endorsements now than when she was in college, but I think (with no evidence) that most college players will lose a chunk of that revenue once they leave. For example, Ash Shade gets paid and has endorsements that may not continue at the current rate once she graduates.

The point I was trying make is that the current environment takes some financial pressure off leaving early.

 

[Blond D.]

I heard there would be no math!

 

[MSGRET]

I have no problem with NIL for the players, but I do have a problem with the universities being able to pay athletes considering almost everyone is getting a free education via their athletic scholarships, at some institutions that's over $50,000 a year.