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With that being said, UConn should go to the ACC to renew old rivalries and play in a more competitive conference schedule. It's a win-win for the school, where all of its sports teams would benefit, especially basketball, football, baseball, and even hockey, basically the entire athletic department. We're helping the BE, but they're not helping us..We'd lose conference tournament home-field advantage, but the adversity would help us.
 
Galaxyshooter said:
With that being said, UConn should go to the ACC to renew old rivalries and play in a more competitive conference schedule. It's a win-win for the school, where all of its sports teams would benefit, especially basketball, football, baseball, and even hockey, basically the entire athletic department. We're helping the BE, but they're not helping us..We'd lose conference tournament home-field advantage, but the adversity would help us.
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It will never happen as long as Boston College, Notre Dame and Syracuse are members of the ACC.
 
Galaxyshooter said:
With that being said, UConn should go to the ACC to renew old rivalries and play in a more competitive conference schedule. It's a win-win for the school, where all of its sports teams would benefit, especially basketball, football, baseball, and even hockey, basically the entire athletic department. We're helping the BE, but they're not helping us..We'd lose conference tournament home-field advantage, but the adversity would help us.
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It’s not like UConn only needs to fill out an application and pay an entrance fee. UCOnn has been trying to get into a power conference for over a decade now, upgrading facilities, beefing up investments in research to attract the Big 10, and trying to get football relevant. The school has to be invited to join a conference and it just hasn’t happened
 
If you look at the payouts though the rich just keep getting richer. The Big 10 already has the biggest TV contracts. Michigan can do whatever they want to bring in players - money is no object. Just look at their men's team yesterday. All 5 starters are transfers. This only makes the division between the haves and have nots even greater. It is a system that will eventually fail because there will have to be two tiers of schools.
 
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What about UConn only being in the ACC for basketball? Didn't they used to do that?
Not thinking about a perfect example but, ND- independent in football, right?
BYU? Basketball in WCC, football's big time.
Are these decisions ever steered because of the other sports? baseball, tennis, swimming, track, volleyball. UConn in the Big Ten in hockey. That would be sweet.
 
I really do not believe that playing in the Big East hurt UConn this season. In fact it might have helped them. The only way playing in the Big East would hurt them is in the tournament seedings and their unbeaten record got them the #1 seed. The teams they played before they got to the final four gave them plenty of time to get used to better competition. The only way the Big East hurt them was it created higher expectations than was realistic.

Lets face it the top four teams in the Nation were UCLA, SC, Texas and UConn. It was just in what order that was unknown. Texas had played UCLA and beat them, They also played SC three times and beat them twice with the last game being a blow out. UConn had not played any of the other three which created the mystery as to where the should be in relation to them.

Now as to their records, obviously UConn was unbeaten. UCLA only had one loss with Texas and SC having more. It could be argued that SC and Texas had the tougher schedule to run though.
 
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What I wanted to add to my previous post which I could, not due to time constraints, I will add here. The problem with trying to compare W/L records also depends on the number of teams played that are capable of knocking them off if they have an off game. Most people know that when teams are close enough in ability, the lesser team can beat the better one based on the right circumstances. However, when the talent and ability level differencial is great enough better teams can beat lesser ones no matter the circumstances. Both Texas and SC lost to lesser teams precisely because of that reason. Lesser teams had good games while they had sub par performances. Both those teams, as well as UCLA, played multiple teams that on their bad night, combined with the opponants good night, could get them beat.

This was not the case with UConn. They might have played one game where they were in risk of losing to a lesser team. This was not their fault since some of the teams scheduled were not expected to be as weak as they turned out to be. Usually UConn schedules multiple games in which they are capable of losing to on one of those "any given night circumstance " situations. This created a situation that even though they were undefeated, objectively they were still a mystery in comparison to the other three teams.
 
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Galaxyshooter said:
With that being said, UConn should go to the ACC to renew old rivalries and play in a more competitive conference schedule. It's a win-win for the school, where all of its sports teams would benefit, especially basketball, football, baseball, and even hockey, basically the entire athletic department. We're helping the BE, but they're not helping us..We'd lose conference tournament home-field advantage, but the adversity would help us.
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It would take UConn less than a nanosecond to accept a bid to the ACC, if one were ever forthcoming. Unfortunately, that is unlikely. Having said that, I think Boston College’s ability to blackball UConn is far less than it was a decade ago. They have brought nothing to the table in the ACC in football, men’s basketball, and women’s basketball.
 
Nothing will happen in the near term because the schools in the club have no incentive to add Connecticut. We need a destabilizing event to precipitate change.

In 2030 the ACC exit fee drops to 75 million. The certainty of that amount may be enough to encourage schools that are being aided by either the Big Ten or the SEC to make the jump.

In 2036 the ACC's ESPN contract is exhausted. Depending upon what ESPN does schools may decide to leave the ACC which would create an opportunity for Connecticut to come in as a backfill. Also, ESPN could say we will renew your contract, but we'd like you to add Connecticut. As long as the dollars are right, the ACC undoubtedly will.

Until then, accept the status quo ante.
 
stamfordhusky said:
It would take UConn less than a nanosecond to accept a bid to the ACC, if one were ever forthcoming. Unfortunately, that is unlikely. Having said that, I think Boston College’s ability to blackball UConn is far less than it was a decade ago. They have brought nothing to the table in the ACC in football, men’s basketball, and women’s basketball.
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An invitation from the ACC will never come in part because of prior legal action taken back in the day....
 
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MSGRET said:
It will never happen as long as Boston College, Notre Dame and Syracuse are members of the ACC.
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Agree with HuskyNan! IMO the BIG is the best fit for UConn and an accretive addition to that conference: academics, land grant college, strong athletic overlap (better than other conferences) with UConn teams that only enhance BIG strength in soccer, ice hockey, field hockey, basketball, women's lacrosse, baseball, etc. Sadly, they don't want us, and I honestly think we wouldn't be the worst football team at this point. We also need to earn membership in the Association of American Universities (AAU), the most prestigious among research colleges that all BIG schools have except Nebraska.

I don't think that the ACC has gotten a bang for their buck with either BC (since 2005) or Syracuse (since 2013) other than maybe SU's men's lacrosse team. Neither school is financially moving the needle for the ACC in athletics. ND is a part-timer there and gets plenty of their own revenue that they don't share with anybody.

I'd like to think that the ACC would especially want find ways to increase conference revenue with members like FSU and Clemson agitating to leave. Money talks, %@#! walks. BC & SU AD's must set aside their feelings after all these years and make decisions with your head instead. Especially now that UConn football is off life-support and even beat two ACC teams last season, with two on the schedule this year.
 
Galaxyshooter said:
With that being said, UConn should go to the ACC to renew old rivalries and play in a more competitive conference schedule. It's a win-win for the school, where all of its sports teams would benefit, especially basketball, football, baseball, and even hockey, basically the entire athletic department. We're helping the BE, but they're not helping us..We'd lose conference tournament home-field advantage, but the adversity would help us.
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They are never going to allow Uconn to join the ACC because football money rules.

The Average attendance of ACC football games is 60,000-80,000 people. With schools like Clemson and Miami.

Uconn football attendance is around 24,000-25,000. Rentschler Field only holds around 38,000.

And forget the SEC where football attendance and stadiums are over 100,000.

So basically, our football program is holding us back.
 
Bald Husky said:
They better think hard about this, because the ACC is slowly going downhill and may need us to bring them back.
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Exactly.......eventually the ACC may need UConn more than UConn needs them.....
 
Charliebball said:
Exactly.......eventually the ACC may need UConn more than UConn needs them.....
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Certainly would be better for them than BC... I would think there is some buyers remorse going on around the decision to admit a school that does nothing to improve year after year.
 
It is my understanding we have made some progress with our former conference mates. I don’t think everyone in the ACC is on board, but we are not that far off. That being said, I imagine the ACC will experience mass defections around 2030. It will be interesting to see what is left.
 
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willtalk said:
I really do not believe that playing in the Big East hurt UConn this season. In fact it might have helped them. The only way playing in the Big East would hurt them is in the tournament seedings and their unbeaten record got them the #1 seed.
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Complaints about BigEast hurting UConn women not so much about seeding, but rather the level of competition faced night in night out from Jan-Mar.

UConn appears surprised by the physicality of Final 4 games. It would be better to have a couple losses, but be ready to compete in those kind of games against the top athletes.

Meanwhile we do our best scheduling tough out of conference games. We'll be right back again next year.

As many posters note, the move to a P4 conference looks possible on a 5 yr horizon.
 
packwrap said:
Complaints about BigEast hurting UConn women not so much about seeding, but rather the level of competition faced night in night out from Jan-Mar.

UConn appears surprised by the physicality of Final 4 games. It would be better to have a couple losses, but be ready to compete in those kind of games against the top athletes.

Meanwhile we do our best scheduling tough out of conference games. We'll be right back again next year.

As many posters note, the move to a P4 conference looks possible on a 5 yr horizon.
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All tournament games should be played like they are from the beginning. The Final Four should not be more physical then the round of 64.
 
1974yankees said:
They are never going to allow Uconn to join the ACC because football money rules.

The Average attendance of ACC football games is 60,000-80,000 people. With schools like Clemson and Miami.

Uconn football attendance is around 24,000-25,000. Rentschler Field only holds around 38,000.

And forget the SEC where football attendance and stadiums are over 100,000.

So basically, our football program is holding us back.
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2025 ACC Football Average Home Attendance (Approximate)
  • Clemson: 79,142
  • Florida State: 65,876
  • Miami (FL): 63,834
  • Virginia Tech: 59,946
  • NC State: 56,919
  • Pittsburgh: 51,845
  • North Carolina: 50,500
  • Louisville: 50,292
  • Virginia: 48,776
  • Georgia Tech: 47,694
  • Boston College: 41,090
  • Syracuse: 38,605
  • California: 34,991
  • SMU: 33,530
  • Wake Forest: 29,433
  • Stanford: 28,171
  • Duke: 24,283
If we had a decent schedule (can't play everyone), we could get to Syracuse level (almost 100% capacity). Maybe that would open the door to adding another tier to the Rent (already planned, and it would get us to well over 50k).
 
1974yankees said:
They are never going to allow Uconn to join the ACC because football money rules.

The Average attendance of ACC football games is 60,000-80,000 people. With schools like Clemson and Miami.

Uconn football attendance is around 24,000-25,000. Rentschler Field only holds around 38,000.

And forget the SEC where football attendance and stadiums are over 100,000.

So basically, our football program is holding us back.
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So you're saying we need a 80,000 seat on campus stadium? Seems extreme, but I'm in.
 
CL82 said:
So you're saying we need a 80,000 seat on campus stadium? Seems extreme, but I'm in.
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How much do u think it will cost to expand the roads into Storrs let overcome opposition of Storrs and the people in Southeastern Ct??
 
CL82 said:
So you're saying we need a 80,000 seat on campus stadium? Seems extreme, but I'm in.
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IMO Storrs (and the roads to Storrs) cannot possibly handle that volume of traffic.
And the state won't pay for the necessary upgrades to the roadways either, especially not when there's already been such a large investment made in the Rent.
 
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Padutch5 said:
How much do u think it will cost to expand the roads into Storrs let overcome opposition of Storrs and the people in Southeastern Ct??
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Don't ask me, ask the original poster who's advocating for an 80,000 seat stadium in Storrs.

(But to answer your question there's no need to expand the roads. For whatever reason, a small contingent on the board seems to think you need a super highway leading up to the parking lot of college football stadiums. You don't.

Oh, and I'm extraordinarily confident that you don't speak for southeastern Connecticut.)

@sun
 
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CL82 said:
So you're saying we need a 80,000 seat on campus stadium? Seems extreme, but I'm in.
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I am saying that the SEC and ACC have big time football programs with 80-100 thousand seat stadiums.

Uconn football is not big time which means no money. So our basketball team is stuck where it is....

They are not going to have Uconn football playing teams like Alabama, Texas, Miami, Tennessee etc.
 
1974yankees said:
I am saying that the SEC and ACC have big time football programs with 80-100 thousand seat stadiums.

Uconn football is not big time which means no money. So our basketball team is stuck where it is....

They are not going to have Uconn football playing teams like Alabama, Texas, Miami, Tennessee etc.
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Is Northwestern big-time? How about Boston College?
 
CL82 said:
Is Northwestern big-time? How about Boston College?
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Problem is those schools just got lucky and were added before the realignment craze or are grandfathered in. You can bet if they blew up the whole system and were re-picking the "power" teams, UConn would be one of the first 40 or 50 teams picked I'm sure.
 
hoopsfan22 said:
Problem is those schools just got lucky and were added before the realignment craze or are grandfathered in. You can bet if they blew up the whole system and were re-picking the "power" teams, UConn would be one of the first 40 or 50 teams picked I'm sure.
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Agree. Any new additions aren't being based upon football prowess. They're being based upon other factors.
 
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Just to give you an idea of where the Big East stands in terms of incoming talent for the teams. Uconn is, as usual, getting the pick of the litter from HoopGurlz in addition to the incoming point guard from Europe. After that the Big East has exactly two recruits, numer 87 and number 100. The remaining 97, with very few exceptions, are heading for power conferences. This does not bode well for Uconn as the level of competition next year will be even weaker. i'm not sure of just what we have to do to get accepted into one of the power conferences, but it better be soon.
 
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