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Yeah, the Big 10 is great

McLovin said:
The NET also said Colgate was a top 10 team lol.

Dude, in a normal year I’d say you have an argument. But in a year when the conference’s only “quality” wins were in conference because they beat no one good out of conference, you have to take those rankings with a grain of salt.

If crappy Patriot League competition could make a 13 seed look like a top 10 seed on paper, then if a conference is overrated as a whole, it will do the same for every team in that conference. Like it did for the Big 10.
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But what do you do about Kenpom. Colgate was 86 in that.

Big Ten:

2. Illinois
3. Michigan
6. Iowa
9. Ohio State
12. Wisconsin
16. Purdue
31. Maryland
36. Penn State
37. Rutgers
50. Indiana
57. Minnesota
60. Michigan State
74. Northwestern
98. Nebraska

If the Big East had Pomeroy rankings like that and the media weren't slobbing our knob, everyone here would be posting their crying TikTok's about how Joey Brackets doesn't love us enough. They already do that and it was a down year for the Big East.

Again, your argument may ultimately be right, but your insistence on basing off of this is patently bad logic.
 
tzznandrew said:
But what do you do about Kenpom. Colgate was 86 in that.

Big Ten:

2. Illinois
3. Michigan
6. Iowa
9. Ohio State
12. Wisconsin
16. Purdue
31. Maryland
36. Penn State
37. Rutgers
50. Indiana
57. Minnesota
60. Michigan State
74. Northwestern
98. Nebraska

If the Big East had Pomeroy rankings like that and the media were slobbing our knob, everyone here would be posting their crying TikTok's about how Joey Brackets doesn't love us enough. They already do that and it was a down year for the Big East.

Again, your argument may ultimately be right, but your insistence on basing off of this is patently bad logic.
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Like I said, I’m an idiot. But sometimes I am right. Lots of times I’m wrong. As long as UConn wins, I don’t really care haha.
 
MuchoDogYears said:
Here’s what you won’t accept.

Flukes happen in the tournament all the time. Agreed.

A team gets super hot and shoot threes out of their mind. Or they get all the foul calls. Or the favored teams star player gets injured during the game. Nothing even close to any of this happened. All I saw was the better team, or at least the equal team, winning a game. ORU didn’t win because of miracles. This wasn’t to my eyes a fluke like the games you’re bringing up. They won because they had equal talent and squeaked one out.
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Drake wasn’t as good as WSU but got unconscious with the three ball and outscored them 21-9.
The three ball is a great equalizer
Media likes to buildup teams but in BB the talent differences are nothing like football and can be made up by a hot shooting game.
The better team might win 7-10 games but they’re only playing once.
play badly and it’s over.
With a year with little OOC games a team can only be judged relative to their conference mates. That makes this years NCAA more unpredictable than ever.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
+100. This "the Big Ten stinks" stuff could be really unpleasant to look at in about 28 hours.
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It’s not that the B1G stinks, it’s that it’s fun to see hyped teams prove the hype maybe overstated.
 
tzznandrew said:
I love to see it and will always root for an underdog.

But one game doesn't prove anything about a conference. If you don't believe me, check out the 2013 results in the Big East.
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Could not agree more. I mean as long Rutgers is still playing the Big 10 has a shot...

ricky gervais laughing GIF
 
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Why can't we just enjoy that the pundits aren't drooling over the blue bloods for once? I'd rather it be the BIG any day. Why all the angst? And yes, upsets happen every year. No Kyle Young today either. Seth Towns is a dud now.
 
McLovin said:
Well when Ohio State is considered a “quality” opponent for other teams in the conference and their resumes, yea it is very important that they are overrated and can’t beat a team from the Summit league.
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That team from the Summit league is a very dangerous team from a really good school. They have the top scorer in the nation and are well coached. OSU has been hobbled lately but at one point in the season they were probably a top 3 team.
watch out for Liberty also
 
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tzznandrew said:
How was UConn a 3 seed with 9 losses in 2011?

Your question presupposes 9 losses is too much for a 2 seed. This literally happens regularly. Seems like you don't watch college basketball.
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We won the BE tournament in 2011 and were on a crazy run. Ohio State didn't even win the Big 10 Tournament. They should've at least done that to warrant a 2 seed if Illinois is a 1. Clearly I'm right because they're out, so......
 
UCTitleTown said:
We won the BE tournament in 2011 and were on a crazy run. Ohio State didn't even win the Big 10 Tournament. They should've at least done that to warrant a 2 seed if Illinois is a 1. Clearly I'm right because they're out, so......
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Again. Teams that don't win their conference tournament and have 9 losses are regularly 2 seeds. Your argument was directly tied to their number of losses.

The fact that they lost doesn't prove anything in this argument.
 
tzznandrew said:
They can't, or didn't today?

You refuse to answer my question. Was the 2013 Big East overrated merely because 2 Georgetown lost to 15 Florida Gulf Coast? Were they not a quality win because of that upset?

This is silly hot take land. And you're jinxing us with your absurdity. Every time you post something as silly as this Maryland gets closer to winning and to the Sweet 16.
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U do realize in 2013 there were OOC games on which to make comparisons
 
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Brochacho said:
And you realize they cancelled non conference games this year because no one wanted a part of the Big Ten right?
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No one was afraid of the 2013 Big East. So a full season.

Everyone was afraid of the 2021 Big Ten.

If people are too dumb to see the difference, who can open their eyes?
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
It's not. What seed do you think UConn should have based on the actual games that were played and the results of those games??
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My point is the seed lines from 2 to like 8 are equal. And UConn is just as good as Ohio St if not better. Creighton definitely looks better than Ohio State
 
UCTitleTown said:
We won the BE tournament in 2011 and were on a crazy run. Ohio State didn't even win the Big 10 Tournament.
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I mean they lost in OT in the tournament finals to a 1 seed lol. As close as you can get.

But I do agree they (specifically) were overrated.
 
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