Xavier Post Game Thread

[DRBackup]

I will take his real quick shots shooting 39% over the 29% we are presently getting from Ball. I still want ball to shoot but doing more 2's while driving incluinding his midrange shots he gets off a few dribbles.

That's like saying you'll take Ball's shots if you just focus on that one made 35 footer. The next "insane" shot Mullins makes will be just about the first.

 

[DRBackup]

Absolutely useless garbage pretending to be information. Similar to Bracketology and NFL mock drafts in September.

Ah, so you understand it even less than he does. Impressive! At no time during a MLB game is "0% chance of winning" meant to be any kind of "prediction" of which team will win.

WPA

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[RuffRuff]

Good lord. I know math is hard, but you do understand that both years combined are STILL less than the sample size from last season. He shot 41.4% on 239 attempts last season. This season and his freshman season - COMBINED - he has 215 attempts. So, yes, I'm still going with the larger sample size, especially since it does not include an injury to the wrist on his shooting hand.

Issue is if it is his wrist, then he may never come around this season.

 

[boog204]

Not so much questioning why he isn't playing but just wishing we could see him get a chance. The guy you haven't seen always has more potential than the guy who has shown you what he is. I realize it is like playing the lottery. Mostly likely you just wasted your money, but one can dream.

Um, yeah, but this is not some diamond in the rough, undervalued guy. Millender is legit 24 y/o. He's the same age as the Creighton guys (and Hass and Samson), people here liked to make fun of. He was a D2 player for three years and would've remained one if not for the portal era. He is what he is. That doesn't mean he should "get a chance." If he had real impact talent, he would get minutes. Is there any universe where you think he would give you any of the following games:

12 and 7 with 0 turnovers on 4/4 from 3
4 and 9 with 3 turnovers against a top 25 team
5 and 9 with 1 turnover against a top 10 team
14 and 9 with 0 turnovers on 3/3 from 3 against a top 10 team
2 and 8 with 1 turnover against the #1 team in the country

Mal has become this year's whipping boy. Fine. But he's still a million times better than Millender, has tons of D1 minutes, and NCAA tourney experience, and has already shown he can be a difference maker in major games against the best competition we've had. Millender has not played one meaningful minute this year. I don't see anyone begging for more minutes for Koroma when Jaylin is ineffective. Why are we continuously doing it with Mal?

 

[RuffRuff]

Um, yeah, but this is not some diamond in the rough, undervalued guy. Millender is legit 24 y/o. He's the same age as the Creighton guys (and Hass and Samson), people here liked to make fun of. He was a D2 player for three years and would've remained one if not for the portal era. He is what he is. That doesn't mean he should "get a chance." If he had real impact talent, he would get minutes. Is there any universe where you think he would give you any of the following games:

12 and 7 with 0 turnovers on 4/4 from 3
4 and 9 with 3 turnovers against a top 25 team
5 and 9 with 1 turnover against a top 10 team
14 and 9 with 0 turnovers on 3/3 from 3 against a top 10 team
2 and 8 with 1 turnover against the #1 team in the country

Mal has become this year's whipping boy. Fine. But he's still a million times better than Millender, has tons of D1 minutes, and NCAA tourney experience, and has already shown he can be a difference maker in major games against the best competition we've had. Millender has not played one meaningful minute this year. I don't see anyone begging for more minutes for Koroma when Jaylin is ineffective. Why are we continuously doing it with Mal?

This is such a common fan habit, wanting to see if some deep bench piece is an upgrade meanwhile the coaches see these kids daily and know what they have.

 

[jibsey]

I think that we are at the nitpicking time of a season where 95% has gone right. What do I have? Solo making 3’s. Tarris not dribbling in the paint, Tarris and Eric making FT’s and not reaching in at the top of the key. That’s about it. The entire season will hinge on our defense because great shooting nights are not guaranteed every game. And fouls, refs and luck will have their say.

 

[Deepster]

Hard to know - was vague enough to be nothing. His camp having an issue would be surprising as I’m not sure what the expectation was. He’s getting 16.5 mpg behind an all league senior. If there is a problem then it would seem unrealistic. Clingan got less time.

Agreed. Maybe the fact that he played a lot and played well when Reed was out makes them think he deserves more time even though Reed is now back?

 

[boog204]

This is such a common fan habit, wanting to see if some deep bench piece is an upgrade meanwhile the coaches see these kids daily and know what they have.

Yes, but this is much, much different than someone saying that Furphy could/should play over a struggling Ross or previous years when Castle struggled initially, and people wanted Solo or Jaylin to get more minutes. This is beyond a "deep bench" piece. Millender and the two late additions from overseas are beyond the deep bench.

 

[nomar]

Hurley definitely spoke about it as if there’s problems in the Reibe camp. There was no reason for Hurley to go there unless some issue exists. Hurley implied that the minutes Reibe’s getting and/or his role on the court isn’t something the Reibe circle is pleased with.

That's so silly. What, do they think he'd be a 1AD if Hurley gave him 30 minutes a game? The staff is using Reibe the right way, and the opportunity will be there next season for him to be a standout.

The portal has made everybody Veruca Salt. "I want it now!"

 

[Excalibur]

Issue is if it is his wrist, then he may never come around this season.

True, which is why I think everyone agrees that limiting his attempts is probably the best idea. Other than the Villanova and Providence games (without Mullins) I don't think the number of attempts per game has been outlandish. 4-5 seems right.

 

[3rdbass]

That's like saying you'll take Ball's shots if you just focus on that one made 35 footer. The next "insane" shot Mullins makes will be just about the first.

What? I neve said I want Mullins making just insance shots but he did make a long one recently from way outside the 3 point line. I meant plays that are designed for him to get better shots. Right now Mullins shot are coming from passes when the first option breaks down or when he goes on on one. I actually want him to have more sets for him so he will take less rushed shots. Mullins is shooting 39% from 3 and already on decent volume in the games he has played. I wouldn't mind running more plays for the 39% shooter who is known for being a great shooter than Balll who is shooting 29% and came in from high school being known more as a slasher than shooter.

 

[RuffRuff]

What? Mullins is shooting 39% from 3 and already on decent volume in the games he has played. I wouldn't mind running more plays for the 39% shooter who is known for being a great shooter than Balll who is shooting 29% and came in from high school being known as a slasher than shooter. He had a fluke year last year as teams didn't know he could shoot.

Fluke might be harsh. He’s got picture perfect form and that was a ton of volume last year and 42%. It’s hard to tell with him. He has no lack of confidence throwing them up there. For now I think you let him keep shooting through it and see if he can land at that 35% going forward.

We are a great % team outside of him with Mullins at 38%, AK at 41% and SD at 47%.

 

[boog204]

Fluke might be harsh. He’s got picture perfect form and that was a ton of volume last year and 42%. It’s hard to tell with him. He has no lack of confidence throwing them up there. For now I think you let him keep shooting through it and see if he can land at that 35% going forward.

We are a great % team outside of him with Mullins at 38%, AK at 41% and SD at 47%.

I don't think "fluke" can be attributed to 239 attempts. He even shot better than this in his freshman year. So perhaps the fluke/outlier is more this year than last.

 

[Waquoit]

Good lord. I know math is hard, but you do understand that both years combined are STILL less than the sample size from last season. He shot 41.4% on 239 attempts last season. This season and his freshman season - COMBINED - he has 215 attempts. So, yes, I'm still going with the larger sample size, especially since it does not include an injury to the wrist on his shooting hand.

When Solo shoots from deep, is your first thought it's going in? How about Mullins?

 

[UConnRock]

Clingnan averaged 13 minutes as a freshman. Reibe is currently averaging 16.4 minutes with 21, 19, adn 17 in the last three games. Which big gets the minutes will depend on matchups

 

[navery12]

When Solo shoots from deep, is your first thought it's going in? How about Mullins?

Yes and yes

 

[RuffRuff]

Clingnan averaged 13 minutes as a freshman. Reibe is currently averaging 16.4 minutes with 21, 19, adn 17 in the last two games. He Which big gets the minutes will depend on matchups

It does feel like Hurley has gone out of his way to get him minutes lately. There was a run there where we were playing close and his minutes were reduced sigificantly.

PC - 8
SHU - 7
Gtwn - 10
Nova - 13

Wonder if the rents got a little squeaky there. That's my guess.

 

[RuffRuff]

Yes and yes

Likewise - even though he's been cold, always expect Solo's to go in.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

When Solo shoots from deep, is your first thought it's going in? How about Mullins?

When he is squared up and open, 100%. There is nothing at all wrong with form. Its a beautiful shot.

 

[uconnfan68]

I kind of agree though I thought when the whistle first blew that they were calling a block on Smith. He clearly fouled the Xavier guy though I think it shouldn’t have been called flagrant. What I thought happened was once they reviewed it the saw Smith clearly committed a foul and they missed it. So given that UConn had the game in hand and they couldn’t call a common foul they basically called the flagrant to get around the problem. I’m guessing if it was 65-63 they don’t make that call.

The ref that made the call could barely see Smith. He was at midcourt. The ref 10' away only called an incorrect oob.

 

[Inyatkin]

I don't think "fluke" can be attributed to 239 attempts. He even shot better than this in his freshman year. So perhaps the fluke/outlier is more this year than last.

I'm asking again, what is the precedent for a bad shooter having a fluky good season at high volume? I don't think there is one.

 

[businesslawyer]

Did anyone else have any studio commentary from Peacock at halftime? All I saw was Super Bowl talk. Kind of disrespectful to the game at hand. Oh well. Not like they have much valuable to say anyway, but I like hearing the neutral media praise UConn.

Yes. Halftime shows aren't about keeping the audience tuned in so you can make more money by selling ads -- they're about paying respect to the teams playing in it.

The things this board needs to take offense at.

 

[DRBackup]

What? I neve said I want Mullins making just insance shots but he did make a long one recently from way outside the 3 point line. I meant plays that are designed for him to get better shots. Right now Mullins shot are coming from passes when the first option breaks down or when he goes on on one. I actually want him to have more sets for him so he will take less rushed shots. Mullins is shooting 39% from 3 and already on decent volume in the games he has played. I wouldn't mind running more plays for the 39% shooter who is known for being a great shooter than Balll who is shooting 29% and came in from high school being known more as a slasher than shooter.

You literally said, "I'll take Mullins quick shots..." because he makes non-insane-quick-shots. The one thing has nothing to do with the other. If Mullins cut down on the insane shots, he'd probably be shooting 45-50% on threes instead of 39%.

 

[DRBackup]

When Solo shoots from deep, is your first thought it's going in? How about Mullins?

And you think matters because.... ? I frankly don't think either one of them are going in unless they're under control and in the flow of the offense. A good percentage of Ball's shots that fit that category are still missing, and FAR too many of Mullins' shots are batspit insane and are absolutely not going in.

 

[RuffRuff]

I'm asking again, what is the precedent for a bad shooter having a fluky good season at high volume? I don't think there is one.

I might think that the delta that we are seeing in Solo's shooting percentage, at his volume, is unprecedented. I can't recall a shooter in CBB that has had such a dramatic shift in $ from one season to the next. Even AK wasn't this drastic and he was ice cold for a long time. He went from 38% to 35%. Solo is going from 42% to 29%. It's hard to explain other than injury TBH.