Xavier Post Game Thread

[Scoe]

Why? Duke would have topped any offer we made

Im sure that was joke, Flagg already had his mind made up.

 

[ctchamps]

I see we’ve reached the point where middle-aged (or even elderly) discussion board warriors proudly claim they can “school” D-1-level late teen/early 20’s CBB players.

I like to drink my coffee in the morning, not spit it out on my phone…

I read this eating my lunch with the same results. Nice one.

 

[AntG168]

Im sure that was joke, Flagg already had his mind made up.

Don’t think this is accurate. From all accounts Hurley really almost landed him. The allure of playing for his families favorite school was just to hard to pass up. The rumblings were that after his UConn visit he was leaning the Huskies and that Duke had to really blow him away on the visit to secure the commitment. Unfortunately Scheyer is really good at that.

Flagg is exactly what this group is missing btw. Haha

 

[HooperScooper]

It was double dribble and was the correct call

Yes, the one where the ball stuck to his hip. But didn't he have another turnover where he got called for a carry? The one where the announcers said refs hardly ever call that? Or maybe I was so distraught at how the game was that I am imagining things. Wouldn't be the first time!

 

[ucp990411]

Yes, the one where the ball stuck to his hip. But didn't he have another turnover where he got called for a carry? The one where the announcers said refs hardly ever call that? Or maybe I was so distraught at how the game was that I am imagining things. Wouldn't be the first time!

I don’t believe he was called for a carry. The double dribble he clearly had 2 hands on the ball

 

[navery12]

Yes, the one where the ball stuck to his hip. But didn't he have another turnover where he got called for a carry? The one where the announcers said refs hardly ever call that? Or maybe I was so distraught at how the game was that I am imagining things. Wouldn't be the first time!

Maybe there was someone else who had a turnover and the announcers said that, but not Mahaney. He had a turnover driving into traffic in the 1st half and dribbled it off his leg, he got pushed out of bounds in the 2nd half, and then the double dribble that wasn't one in the 2nd half

 

[Slick]

Should have offered Cooper Flagg a lot more money.

Duke probably paid him over 2 million. Not easy to compete

 

[Scoe]

Don’t think this is accurate. From all accounts Hurley really almost landed him. The allure of playing for his families favorite school was just to hard to pass up. The rumblings were that after his UConn visit he was leaning the Huskies and that Duke had to really blow him away on the visit to secure the commitment. Unfortunately Scheyer is really good at that.

Flagg is exactly what this group is missing btw. Haha

I don’t believe that I’m sure he was already a Duke lean as was rumored. It was like Lebron having meetings with other teams in the summer of 2010 when he had already agreed to join the Heat 2 years prior.

 

[BarkingDog]

Not to derail the conversation, but I thought Samson Johnson had a good game. He had 12 points on a perfect 5-5 from the floor.

He was a monster on the defensive end with a career high 5 blocks.

And he kept freemantle mostly in check who needed 15 shots to get 15 points , and who seemed to do most of his work against Reed.

Sam did all that with only committing 2 fouls and no turnovers in 31 minutes.

Sure, he could improve his rebounding, he had 4 last night, but I would take that game from Sam every time.

 

[ucp990411]

Maybe there was someone else who had a turnover and the announcers said that, but not Mahaney. He had a turnover driving into traffic in the 1st half and dribbled it off his leg, he got pushed out of bounds in the 2nd half, and then the double dribble that wasn't one in the 2nd half

It was a double dribble. He put two hands on the ball in one dribble

 

[ctchamps]

Maybe there was someone else who had a turnover and the announcers said that, but not Mahaney. He had a turnover driving into traffic in the 1st half and dribbled it off his leg, he got pushed out of bounds in the 2nd half, and then the double dribble that wasn't one in the 2nd half

Ball.

 

[DMIL]

Well said, the negativity is over the top. They played a tough team in a tough atmosphere and a team that played to save their season. Despite the terrible games by Ross and Stewart and not much from Karaban or Reed, they still almost won tha game, minus McNeeley.

The sky is not falling!

It's not over the top. The team is not meeting expectations based on the talent they have and how this talent was positioned this year. Roster construction is the issue. Maui was the precursor.

The truth hurts and we have to be honest. UCONN nation has been waiting for this team to collectively turn the corner. It hasn't happened yet and we don't know if it will. No one likes humble pie. The best coach and coaching staff in America has miscalculated and become overly reliant on Euroball, analytics at the expense of toughness and defense. The team is missing the Dogs that are smart, can take that ball to the hole, rebound and on ball defend.

 

[uconngb]

At this point it generally doesn’t feel part of the game plan. We can recommend it here till we are blue in the face.

I’m starting to realize Hurley is a much better coach when he has 4 NBA players in the starting lineup.

I got villified for saying the same thing a week ago.

This year the team REALLY needs coaching. They ain’t getting it. Instead he’s trying to ram a bunch of square pegs into his system of round holes. Really shocking that it ain’t working but hell, let’s just keep doing it.

 

[Dove]

Should have offered Cooper Flagg a lot more money.

Okay, buddy.

He was always going to Dook.

 

[uconngb]

any coach would be better when having 4 NBA players in their starting lineup. However,you seem to be forgetting this team has 3 NBA players starting now.

Would you like to name them, because I see ZERO

 

[DMIL]

I thought this was a great game for us. I know people are complaining, but we almost won. Off night from Solo and AK. With Liam we win easily. As usual the refs were against us pretty clearly especially once we got to the second half. A call or two made fairly and we win. I think it was very encouraging to see Aiden emerge. If we can rely on him to play like this the rest of the way, we will be so much more dangerous. Overall a positive outcome in a tough road game with the refs stacked against us per usual. Can’t complain.

This wasn't a great game and Xavier is no juggernaut. The team played well in spots but underperformed once again in another game that was winnable. Aiden flashed this game but his 3 turnovers were killer. Half the team underperformed. It's o.k. to call it what it is.

 

[DMIL]

I get that the last look for Ross was bad but literally 15 seconds earlier he drew up a play to get our best shooter a wide open corner 3

Ross should've never gotten the ball in that situation. That's the problem.

 

[DMIL]

Would you call Reed and Mahaney mistakes? If we had another pg aside from Diarra then Mahaney could play more off the ball.

Think it's more so the sophomores who haven't stepped up, AK and Hass are solid players and leaders but not all American players. Team was built to not have much margin for error, lost 4 starters. Just would've been nice if we brought in another pg transfer.

The coaching staff miscalculated and this is the result. We'll see if they can figure this thing out with the squad we have. There's been too much talk about our guys, our system, our talent, our character, our culture etc. The team is losing games they should win. We are looking for the growth.

 

[DMIL]

Can't really read through all this. Granted some players who aren't experienced with producing on a consistent level, especially during winning time, didn't come through. Many want to blame Ross who has a lot of potential but is simply too inexperienced.

This is not blaming the loss on this player, but we win that game if Ball hits his makeable 3s which he went 3-11. He did a lot of good things, had some bad moments on D, but to win that type of game, he has to knock down at least 2 more 3s on that volume of takes.

And honorable mention for why we lost is Karaban, the team leader, going 4-13 and 1-6 from deep and fouling out. The players many want to blame this loss on should not have been on the floor late in that game and/or counted upon if he could have been on the floor and more productive.

I realize that many of us, including me, thought this team looked so deep and talented before we started to face high level competition, but the fact is, for whatever reason, the games are just too big for many of the less experienced players to step up when the more experienced ones aren't producing. Of course things would be different if McNeeley was playing, but the collective, both experienced and inexperienced need to step up to get the W in these winnable games.

Wow! Yet again another L, other than the Dayton game, where we lost by 1 or 2 possessions and had opportunities to flip the score late. The margin of error is so narrow. Ball just connecting on one of those late 3s changes the outcome of that game. Ross would not have been in that position if Solo connected on one of them.

To end this on a positive note, which probably only makes me feel a little better, Mahaney, although had a few bad moments, played very well and looked good running the half court offense. I hope he can continue to build on that. He's been the Boneyard punching bad for most of the season. Nice to see him punch back.

We thought the team was deep offensively because that is what coach Hurley sold us from his famous, intense practices.

The coaching staff miscalculated this off season and we'll see what they are able to figure out. The success of our season should not be dependent on a freshmen.

 

[huskyharry]

Pretty sure Mahaney had one also. One turnover they called a double dribble when the ball stuck to his hip and another was a carry that the announcers were saying they don’t ever call. Solo’s carry was very obvious.

The call for Mahaney was a double dribble but when you look at the replay, his left hand never touches the ball. He was dribbled with the right hand, ball was not stuck on the hip

 

[ucp990411]

The call for Mahaney was a double dribble but when you look at the replay, his left hand never touches the ball. He was dribbled with the right hand, ball was not stuck on the hip

His left hand absolutely touched the ball

 

[DMIL]

People are understandably doom and gloom because it was a loss but again, we showed real toughness in a very hostile environment against yet another solid team geared up for us. We had a chance but didn’t execute in crunch time again. Solo, Samson and Aidan were great. Our defense was actually pretty good overall. Alex was disappointing, I hope it’s just a slump and not a lingering injury.

We may have 6 losses but 5 of them were by a total of 14 points and 3 of them were without our best player. Very literally all but Dayton were were essentially coin flips at the end. That builds teams for March, win or lose. Yes our seed will not be as great at this point but if McNeeley comes back soon as something resembling his old self, by March we are still a second weekend team with him.

The team based on it's talent is playing well below expectation. They have to figure it out. Xavier is not a juggernaut. This was a winnable game despite.

 

[huskyharry]

I don’t believe he was called for a carry. The double dribble he clearly had 2 hands on the ball

Actually, he did not. His left hand did move towards the ball but did not touch the ball.

 

[AllHusky]

Don’t think this is accurate. From all accounts Hurley really almost landed him. The allure of playing for his families favorite school was just to hard to pass up. The rumblings were that after his UConn visit he was leaning the Huskies and that Duke had to really blow him away on the visit to secure the commitment. Unfortunately Scheyer is really good at that.

Flagg is exactly what this group is missing btw. Haha

I’d be extremely happy with Liam McNeeley thank you

 

[controlfade]

Would you like to name them, because I see ZERO

Liam, AK and Ball